Would someone PLEASE explain the "zombie craze"?

[22-rimfire]

perhaps it's because the military actually created Field Manuals regarding it?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/223872345/CONPLAN-8888

https://app.box.com/shared/154kr4e0vz


Initially created as a "not a joke" joke, but the fact remains that they had been training for that very thing:

http://news.yahoo.com/marines-police-prep-mock-zombie-invasion-180541102.html

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/16/politics/pentagon-zombie-apocalypse/



.....but also, with all the not-so-recent "recent" outbreaks of every cataclysmic plague known to the CDC......can you blame Hollywood for capitalizing on the craze?

Probably not the cause. But like the rest of us, it's code for population control in the event it's necessary. Why do you think a lot of politicians want to get rid of the guns? Of course, it's so we sheeple don't turn on each other..... and we can still use machetes for zombies. Sometimes I think certain politicians are more concerned about "zombies" then they are radical terrorists, Iran, or Russia.

 

[Rasco]

I totally had the idea for Twilight before it was popular.... but my story involved sexy teen mummies fighting sexy teen frankensteins.

 

[UffDa]

Come to think of it, I bet the zombie craze was a conspiracy led by Busse to make us want/need their INFI blades! It wasn't until I saw Daryl Dixon's knife on "The Walking Dead" that I knew had to get me one of those. I'm not complaining, as the TGLB has turned out to be my favorite fixed blade...love the way the G10 handle fills my hand, and it always strops up nice and razor sharp after use. I guess the TGLB would be my zombie knife as I don't own a Katana.

After seeing this ad, who wouldn't want to buy a Busse knife?

 

[druid189]

Probably not the cause. But like the rest of us, it's code for population control in the event it's necessary. Why do you think a lot of politicians want to get rid of the guns? Of course, it's so we sheeple don't turn on each other..... and we can still use machetes for zombies. Sometimes I think certain politicians are more concerned about "zombies" then they are radical terrorists, Iran, or Russia.

Agreed.

...but I'd submit the "radical terrorists" are barely more than False Flag engagements by our own government. I have about half my department on my side of the Constitution "coin" - we will be considered "defects" and useless to the government, therefore 'part of the problem' when that time comes.

 

[Planterz]

I only like vampire movies if they have armadillos in them. How could it be Transylvania without armadillos?

[video=youtube;zGCCmMW4GdY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGCCmMW4GdY[/video]​

 

[Piso Mojado]

Check the web site of the Federal Vampire & Zombie Agency (FVZA)

http://www.fvza.org/index.html

From 1869 to 1975, the Federal Vampire & Zombie Agency (FVZA), also known as the Vampire National Guard (Vanguard), was responsible for controlling the nation's vampire and zombie populations while overseeing scientific research into the undead. This site is a tribute to the men and women who served in the FVZA, especially the over 4000 Agents who lost their lives fighting to keep our country safe. We also hope to call attention to the dangerous research being performed at the Santa Rosa Institute—research that runs the risk of bringing back a scourge of vampires worse than any before.

—Dr. Hugo Pecos

It is my understanding that Lynn Thompson was an anonymous co-author of several FVZA combat manuals. Perhaps this will silence the persistent, slanderous rumors that Lynn himself is undead.

 

[Charlie_K]

Tie me to a chair and force me to watch that shit and I will hold my own breath until I die.

Terrible shit. Above posted gentleman would be turning over in his coffin. Hah!

The above gentleman would be impaling the Twilight vampires himself.

Edit: And I just realized that I made a joke with some basis in actual history.

 

[Charlie_K]

Maybe it's just me, but I think the primary appeal of the whole zombie craze, is that those involved get to walk around armed in all kinds of ways, openly toting guns, knives, improvised weapons, and whatever else they can, and there are no legal repercussions for doing such. How many of us haven't wanted to do that at some point?

 

[druid189]

Maybe it's just me, but I think the primary appeal of the whole zombie craze, is that those involved get to walk around armed in all kinds of ways, openly toting guns, knives, improvised weapons, and whatever else they can, and there are no legal repercussions for doing such. How many of us haven't wanted to do that at some point?

but that already exists.....it's called:

 

[sideways]

Stop waving that thing in everyone's face.

 

[druid189]

Stop waving that thing in everyone's face.

HELL no. Since they no longer teach it in school I had to teach it to my 3 daughters. What's sad is the oldest is 26 years old - it should be the FIRST thing they learn in American Cultures EVERY FREAKING YEAR

 

[Piso Mojado]

Since they no longer teach it in school I had to teach it to my 3 daughters. What's sad is the oldest is 26 years old - it should be the FIRST thing they learn in American Cultures EVERY FREAKING YEAR

Sorry to learn they no longer teach the U.S. Constitution in Pennsylvania. In Illinois we must pass a rigorous test on both the admirable U.S. Constitution and the abominable Illinois Constitution to graduate 8th grade. Some, but not all of us, repeat the test every year until they are 16: those are the scholars who fail their Constitution Test and repeat 8th grade. One of my friends was a constitutional scholar, and the only man amongst us who drove to his grade school graduation.

If you are interested in moving beyond the 2nd Amendment's text to its historical context, I recommend this article:

http://scholarship.kentlaw.iit.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3291&context=cklawreview

The author is a legal historian, not a politician (with a Wikipedia biography if you are curious). He is an excellent writer, and the only one I have read who managed to summarize this in a mere 41 pages.

 

[Converge]

but that already exists.....it's called:

You're goddamn right, brother.


And to the topic at hand,
I also agree the whole zombie craze has been used in the firearm/gear community as an analogy for a lawless or "SHTF" environment in regards to preparations. If someone buys into the fun and prepares for a "zombie apocalypse", it is safe to say that they are pretty well prepared for any actual real life situations that could happen. Water, food, medical supplies, gear, weapons; firearms/knives/etc, improved shelters, plans of action, etc. All these things can be joked about with people who typically see preparing for bad situations as "taboo" and you still reach the same goal. Personally I could care less if someone thinks it is odd that I want to prepare for the unknown in regards to any terrible without rule of law situations. I don't need to follow it with some stupid "zombie" reason. I've prepared for shitty situations because history has taught us that these things happen on all different levels, no matter where you live. Just because most of us live in the states doesn't mean we will avoid any situations in which being prepared is necessary for survival. Even on a smaller more temporary level, take a look at the looting and rioting that has taken place in some of our cities the past few months regarding race and police. I would not want to be caught in that situation without some good gear and means of self defense.

If people need the zombie excuse to prepare for things, fine. It is better that they do, so whatever.

 

[druid189]

Sorry to learn they no longer teach the U.S. Constitution in Pennsylvania. In Illinois we must pass a rigorous test on both the admirable U.S. Constitution and the abominable Illinois Constitution to graduate 8th grade. Some, but not all of us, repeat the test every year until they are 16: those are the scholars who fail their Constitution Test and repeat 8th grade. One of my friends was a constitutional scholar, and the only man amongst us who drove to his grade school graduation.

If you are interested in moving beyond the 2nd Amendment's text to its historical context, I recommend this article:

http://scholarship.kentlaw.iit.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3291&context=cklawreview

The author is a legal historian, not a politician (with a Wikipedia biography if you are curious). He is an excellent writer, and the only one I have read who managed to summarize this in a mere 41 pages.

Yes, I'm not "just about" the 2nd Amendment but I do subscribe to the notion that without the 2nd, all others will fall.

Thanks for the link. I will definitely check it out.

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You're goddamn right, brother.

No matter where I look, I find some of my Brothers in Blue have forgotten their Oath. As you read above, they are no longer teaching the Constitution [or the Federalist Papers] in school. It has damaged this society to a point where when we say, "The Constitution!" - people look at us like we just landed at Roswell. It pisses me off to NO end.

And to the topic at hand,
I also agree the whole zombie craze has been used in the firearm/gear community as an analogy for a lawless or "SHTF" environment in regards to preparations.

I tend to disagree. Hollywood and TV Ratings is what's been pushing the Zombie craze and the advent of better special effects, more believable CGI and better acting/action - add to that the fact that "alternative media" has fueled an anti-big brother agenda by pointing out hidden and "secret" policies in legislation - is more to blame - but I do suspect there are other elements of influence involved as well.

If someone buys into the fun and prepares for a "zombie apocalypse", it is safe to say that they are pretty well prepared for any actual real life situations that could happen. Water, food, medical supplies, gear, weapons; firearms/knives/etc, improved shelters, plans of action, etc.

I completely agree. Here in PA we don't have "California" type issues with multiple daily natural disasters [quakes] outside perhaps, a good Nor'Easter. I makes sense for people of CA to prepare their 72 hr kit based on their expectations..but here? We tend to wait until Fall before getting anywhere near concerned. If it takes the LameStream Media a few showings of EBOLA scares to get people to think about Zombie Preparedness? Pft....so be it.

All these things can be joked about with people who typically see preparing for bad situations as "taboo" and you still reach the same goal. Personally I could care less if someone thinks it is odd that I want to prepare for the unknown in regards to any terrible without rule of law situations.

What organization used the term "Always be Prepared" as a sanctioned motto? Yet, no one questioned it for DECADES.

I don't need to follow it with some stupid "zombie" reason. I've prepared for shitty situations because history has taught us that these things happen on all different levels, no matter where you live. Just because most of us live in the states doesn't mean we will avoid any situations in which being prepared is necessary for survival. Even on a smaller more temporary level, take a look at the looting and rioting that has taken place in some of our cities the past few months regarding race and police. I would not want to be caught in that situation without some good gear and means of self defense.

I'm with you dude, I prepare because "shit just happens." Hurricane Sandy took out power here for almost 2 weeks. I had zero issues because I prepared in advance.

If people need the zombie excuse to prepare for things, fine. It is better that they do, so whatever.

I completely agree but I also caution people to use good judgement and exhibit some restraint. An example would be....

One guy I work with is only a few years out of the Academy. We get to talking about "SHTF" and "WROL" scenarios because his wife got into "The Walking Dead" series [great series, BTW].

Anyway, he was looking through some surplus catalogs and websites and commenting how he was thinking of buying a pallet of MRE's. I looked at him and said "why the Hell would you do that?" His response was "but what if?" and I replied ....."No, not the 'what if' part......why MRE's? They only have a shelf life of up to 7 years in the best conditions. Why not buy supplies that have a 25/30 year shelf life like Mountain House products [supported here: http://topfoodstoragereviews.com/30-year-shelf-life-with-mountain-house-pouches ].....and then the conversation went on to water, guns/ammo, etc.

You don't want to turn into those idiots on that "Preppers" show. There's no way in Hell I'm going to announce to the world, what I have and where, or what my countermeasures are. That information is for family and close friends ONLY.

The reason I mentioned work is the presence of the FEMA, DHS [and other] manuals my Department was issued and the policies enacted because of them. We read them and only some of us looked at each other like..."w......t........FFFFFF!!!" [and not in a 'good, little employee' way either]. Once we started the "conspiracy theory" conversations in the squad room, only then did these pantywaist rookies begin to "get the picture" in how seriously screwed up this Nation is getting [as far as governmental controls go].

 

[Charlie_K]

but that already exists.....it's called:

Granted. But some things are easier to get away with carrying than others. In my state of Kansas, I saw somebody walking around with a sword at his side, I kid you not. Never heard anything about police getting involved. But walking around while carrying a crowbar, or a baseball bat, or even a hunk of pipe, that's not as easy to do since we still have laws against carrying bludgeons in public. But in a ZA situation, that doesn't apply, and everything is fair game.

 

[druid189]

Granted. But some things are easier to get away with carrying than others. In my state of Kansas, I saw somebody walking around with a sword at his side, I kid you not. Never heard anything about police getting involved. But walking around while carrying a crowbar, or a baseball bat, or even a hunk of pipe, that's not as easy to do since we still have laws against carrying bludgeons in public. But in a ZA situation, that doesn't apply, and everything is fair game.

Agreed. One must follow the Law but if you think the State law is unjust, address it with your Governor and Legislative branch. Find a way to get that law modified or repealed.

In PA, swords are only permitted [outside the home] when used in a theatrical performance or a 'sanctioned' reenactment [like LARP and SCA festivals, Ren fairs, etc].

Bludgeons - baseball bats, so long as they are accompanied by a ball and glove still count? You "could be" just looking for an empty field or something

 

[22-rimfire]

Haven't noticed anyone wandering around Walmart with a sword yet, but that would likely be the test case. (The Walmart Walk) There are no restrictions on knives now in TN. But intent is still important and subjective.

 

[Stelth]

I think the whole zombie thing is retarded too. I have no interest in any of it.

 

[Shotgun]

As for why people are fascinated with zombies, I have a theory (I also have a theory about the brontosaurus). Zombies are, or at least were, humans. Your jerk neighbors and their obnoxious brats, the kid that bullied you in middleschool, the teacher that graded you too harshly, the racist old bat that thinks it's 1955, etc. And just people in general that you never knew or gave two craps about. Zombies give you the chance to kill people, either vicariously through TV/movie characters, or virtually through video games. There's no guilt in killing a zombie. No moral, ethical, or legal repercussions. Test 9mm vs .45ACP for real. Ram them with a Ford Excursion doing 50mph. Find out how many whacks it takes to get to the center of a corpsie-pop. All without getting arrested or struggling with the dilemma of taking a life. In fact, you're doing everybody a favor by killing zombies. Everybody has dark thoughts sometimes - zombies just make it OK to act on them.

You're not alone in thinking that. There's two kinds of people you can kill in video games and not feel bad about it. Zombies and Nazis.

I don't like zombie movies for this reason though. I like them in the same way I like any disaster/horror movie. It's an abandonment of all the social contrivances that we have to obey on a daily basis. It's a freeing feeling that you can only get when having a real adventure but a 1.5 hour movie comes close and is a lot easier to work into a busy social/business life.

 

[Shotgun]

I tend to happily ignore what directors and artists say was the point of what they do.

Once art/film is in the public domain, what they intended isn't as important...art belongs to the public, not the artist.

We all impart our own meaning, and in the final analysis, that's the only meaning that matters.

Me too. What's worse is someone who will parrot back what they HEARD about some piece of art, never actually having done any thinking about the art in their own way. They totally miss the point of art IMO.