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I'm a little ticked right now, but not sure if it's worth rating. So, I figured I'd get your input.

Guy 1 says he'll take a product for a certain price and to give him a day or two to get money loaded on Paypal.

Guy 2 later inquires about the product and indicates wish to buy.

I tell Guy 2 I've got a deal pending, but will let him know if it falls through.

Guy 1 then says he can't get $$ loaded on Paypal account even though he has paid for another item with another member later that same day. He says to go ahead and sell the item.

Guy 2 says he went ahead and bought something else since I had a deal pending.

6 days later, Guy 1 says he still can't get $ loaded on Paypay--sorry about that.

So, Guy 1 cost me a sale on an item because I waited around for him a couple of days to honor our deal.

Am I wrong to be ticked, and is that something that should be rated?

Thanks for any input!
 
That just sounds like bad luck to me man. Pretty aggravating but it happens, people are allowed to change their minds. Just my .02.
 
If guy 1 wrote the words, "I'll take it" and then reneges, it's worthy of a negative. Tell him to send a MO and see what happens.
 
I have had a number of similar experiences G-man. I try not to leave negative feedback unless absolutely necessary, as it usually results in burning a bridge with a fellow member. Unless I am dealing with a friend or a member I have previous dealt with, I request that payment be made immediately. I would do this before leaving negative feedback:

1. Re-list your item stating that payment is due immediately.

2. Don't deal with Guy 1 ever again unless he is able to make payment immediately.

Paypal complications do arise, and I have had been in the same situation as "Guy 1." Luckily, I was dealing with a friend here on the forum...and he gave me ample time to make payment. Like I said, leave the negative feedback for a last resort...IMHO. I hope this helps man!
 
That just sounds like bad luck to me man. Pretty aggravating but it happens, people are allowed to change their minds. Just my .02.
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No they don't have the right to change their mind, if they already said they would take it!

Sounds like guy1 flaked on you & cost you sale.You have every right to be pissed,but since no money changed hands,there was no deal,hence no feedback.

You should state guy1's name though so this doesn't happen again.
 
Vege-Taco said:
If guy 1 wrote the words, "I'll take it" and then reneges, it's worthy of a negative. Tell him to send a MO and see what happens.
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Exact words were "I will pay 50 dollars shipped. Is that fair? Deal?" To which I said deal and gave him payment info.

I did tell him today I could give him an address for a MO. He just wrote back to let me know that he would have an answer to me by the end of the week.
 
Don't waste any more time on him. For whatever reason, his behavior in this deal is unreliable. If he does take it, he may still jerk you around on the payment.
 
snwbrdr202 said:
I have had a number of similar experiences G-man. I try not to leave negative feedback unless absolutely necessary, as it usually results in burning a bridge with a fellow member. Unless I am dealing with a friend or a member I have previous dealt with, I request that payment be made immediately. I would do this before leaving negative feedback:

1. Re-list your item stating that payment is due immediately.

2. Don't deal with Guy 1 ever again unless he is able to make payment immediately.

Paypal complications do arise, and I have had been in the same situation as "Guy 1." Luckily, I was dealing with a friend here on the forum...and he gave me ample time to make payment. Like I said, leave the negative feedback for a last resort...IMHO. I hope this helps man!
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Thanks for the response. I'm usually pretty flexible and easy to get along with on transactions--that's why I was willing to wait a couple of days to let him get the PP thing sorted out.

I guess I'll have to start listing "immediate payment" with everything going forward. You just hate to start listing all kinds of terms and conditions in listings because you start sounding like an a$$hat.

But, appreciate the reply!
 
What kind of difficulty did he have with paypal? Did he actually have cash in hand (bank account) and tried to transfer same to paypal without success or was it that he had trouble getting cash to transfer to PP?

If it was a PP glitch did he suggest any other method of payment, like a MO?

To me it sounds like unit 1 cost you a sale.................
 
wolfmann601 said:
What kind of difficulty did he have with paypal? Did he actually have cash in hand (bank account) and tried to transfer same to paypal without success or was it that he had trouble getting cash to transfer to PP?

If it was a PP glitch did he suggest any other method of payment, like a MO?

To me it sounds like unit 1 cost you a sale.................
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He said he had to load money into Paypal. Not sure the problem there because if I don't have money in my PP account I can still pay with Paypal. Paypal just deducts it from my bank account.

I did mention the Money order today, but that was what he said he would have to wait until the end of the week to give me an answer on.
 
I just had a similar situation with someone who wanted to trade and it took him nearly two weeks to find out that he didn't actually have the item he was going to send me. Cost me at least two potential sales. Thank goodness we agreed that I wouldn't ship first, due to my greater number of feedback.

I'm still pissed, but I don't think its worth the hassle of giving negative feedback.
 
JTR357 said:
No they don't have the right to change their mind, if they already said they would take it!
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Look at it like an item in the grocery store. By putting it in your cart, you're effectively saying "I'll take it," but three aisles later you decided that you don't want it and return it to the shelf.

Are you a negative shopper? No, not really. You've caused some minor grief for the store employee that finds your can of beans sitting on the shelf with windshield wiper fluid, but it's as simple as taking it back to the correct aisle and all is forgotten.

Things happen. Sometimes money allotted for one thing has to be used for another. A few weeks ago, I got my Christmas bonus and was shopping around one of the knife dealer websites and stuck a few things in my mental shopping cart. Then the next morning I slipped on some ice and messed up my elbow. Naturally the money I was going to spend on a few knives was needed to pay some medical bills.

Granted I never said "hey mister shopkeeper, I'm buying these things," but the fact is that money I had intended to spend there was needed elsewhere. These things happen, and I think we're too quick to hand out negative feedback when it may not (yet) be warranted.

If a deal falls through, it falls through. Start a new for sale thread and forget about the old one.

Once money has changed hands then the deal is done. If this guy had sent the money through paypal and then said "oh, I don't want it anymore," then that's worthy of negative feedback. But since the deal hadn't reached the money stage, no harm no foul, just a little irritation.

But hey, that's just my opinion.
 
I would not leave negative feedback since the deal was never completed. I would also never deal with the person again. I've had folks ask me to wait for money and my response is generally that they are welcome to check to see if the knife is still for sale once they have the money.
 
In light of the new rules, I would think this rates a negative!!

Afterall, dealing here is not rocket science.....................................
 
You didn't lose anything but time and you can still sell the knife by relisting it. Anyone willing to pay immediately would get first priority in any sale I had going. I would only hold a maximum of 12 hours and say so in my ad but only if I had no immediate buyers.

In any event I would prefer that a buyer change his mind before I ship a knife than get buyer's remorse after he receives it and before I go through the the hassle and expense of shipping it and refunding the money afterwards.

No transaction, no feedback. Just don't deal with them in the future.
 
Is it something of a pain that one person's delay caused you to miss out on the sale to the second party? Yes.

Ultimately, though, there was no deal and if we start using feedback for every deal that doesn't actually take place it'll get a lot more convoluted and subjective. If the same thing were to happen multiple times from one person, putting in a claim and not coming through, then that's another matter.

In the grand scheme of how far wrong sales can go online I would consider this to be like a mosquito bite - annoying but fleeting, and far from a serious condition.
 
I am new to these forums but certainly not new to the process being discussed.

I would not leave feedback because, as others stated, there was no actual transaction.
I would say to avoid this from happening again you can simply not "hold" an item. They either have the money to pay for it when they contact you or they don't. If they need some time to consider it, fine, but if it sells in the meantime that's the way it is. In my brick and mortar businesses I have sometimes accepted a non refundable deposit on certain items, but dealing with paypal is a whole other thing and can be a real hassle.

just my .02
 
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