Would You Tell Me What is So Special About Chris Reeves Knives?

[DayofReckoning]

Feel better now? Seems like you needed to get that off your chest.

So, let me get this straight. CRK's are P'sOS, everybody who disagrees with you is preemptively branded a fanboy or strawman, yet we are to believe that your opinion is objective? Get a grip man.

Nobody here is claiming that a Ti framelock is stronger than a Triad Lock (just went and re-watched the Andrew Demko video BTW). "The reality is", however, that there are many who can attest to being served well for years doing hard work with a Sebenza as their cutting tool. You're not a fan, cool, but I'll choose to trust actual experience.

I never said it was my opinion, it's fact. Please see the video. Note the video is not displaying properly for some reason at the moment, I'm not sure why. But one can see the result of some of the testing. They have put countless knives under the exact same testing. You must understand that the Sebenza OBJECTIVELY produced one of the poorest results EVER. That's real DATA, but again the same strawman "it's strong enough for me and all my buddies on Bladeforums (though 95% of Sebenzas are shelf queens, lol) therefor those spine Wacks and weigh hang tests mean nothing" always appears.

Funny you accused my post of being opinion, and that I should get a grip, when I actually have proof of my claims, whereas in your defense, you used "many who can attest for being served well" as being your proof.

 

[DayofReckoning]

It's okay if you can't afford one. Just calm down.

That's the exact same elitest, snobbery attitude that is associated with Chris Reeve knives. Despite owning more than a few knives costing as much or more than a Sebenza, and having the ability to purchase one no problem, I take pleasure of shattering the myth of the Sebenza's superiority because of attitudes and comments like this.

 

[DayofReckoning]

Did you mean titanium on steel, with respect to possible galling? If so, IME&O the forces at the interface are not high enough for that to happen. (It's not pure Ti after all.)

Yes, brain fart moment there. Steel on steel lockup is stronger than steel on titanium lockup. The Sebenza lockface is titanium and "slips" much easier than steel on steel.

 

[J. Doyle]

That's the exact same elitest, snobbery attitude that is associated with Chris Reeve knives. Despite owning more than a few knives costing as much or more than a Sebenza, and having the ability to purchase one no problem, I take pleasure of shattering the myth of the Sebenza's superiority because of attitudes and comments like this.

Your rant comes off as, "I want one but can't have one so I'll aggressively bash it".

I made no comment about them one way or another so you've shattered nothing for me cheif.

 

[DayofReckoning]

Your rant comes off as, "I want one but can't have one so I'll aggressively bash it".

I made no comment about them one way or another so you've shattered nothing for me cheif.

My rant is because of watching an inferior product being praised for something it's not. You can take it any way you want.

Watch the video and maybe your opinion might change.

 

[Danny Linguini]

I never said it was my opinion, it's fact. Please see the video. Note the video is not displaying properly for some reason at the moment, I'm not sure why. But one can see the result of some of the testing. They have put countless knives under the exact same testing. You must understand that the Sebenza OBJECTIVELY produced one of the poorest results EVER. That's real DATA, but again the same strawman "it's strong enough for me and all my buddies on Bladeforums (though 95% of Sebenzas are shelf queens, lol) therefor those spine Wacks and weigh hang tests mean nothing" always appears.

Funny you accused my post of being opinion, and that I should get a grip, when I actually have proof of my claims, whereas in your defense, you used "many who can attest for being served well" as being your proof.

Look, I don’t own a CRK, and I don’t ever see myself owning one. I have my own reasons that are irrelevant here. You don’t like the knife, fine. You want to state your reasons for not liking the knife, great. But for the love of Christ, that doesn’t give you the right to rip on everybody else who owns, uses, and otherwise likes the product. You’re not doing yourself or your argument any favors with this strawman and fanboy crap. It works for other people; that is not opinion, it’s fact. Meanwhile, you’re basing your facts on some idiot on YouTube. Guess who I’ll tend to listen to.

 

[J. Doyle]

My rant is because of watching an inferior product being praised for something it's not. You can take it any way you want.

Watch the video and maybe your opinion might change.

Nah. Don't need to.

I don't do stupid things with knives like spine whacking and hanging weight off them so your opinion is worthless to me.

Your "jilted lover" opinion of the Sebenza is clearly in the vast minority or else they wouldn't be such hot sellers and CRK would have been out of business long ago.

 

[DayofReckoning]

Look, I don’t own a CRK, and I don’t ever see myself owning one. I have my own reasons that are irrelevant here. You don’t like the knife, fine. You want to state your reasons for not liking the knife, great. But for the love of Christ, that doesn’t give you the right to rip on everybody else who owns, uses, and otherwise likes the product. Your not doing yourself or your argument with this strawman and fanboy crap. It works for other people; that is not opinion, it’s fact. Meanwhile, you’re basing your facts on some idiot on YouTube. Guess who I’ll tend to listen to.

Andrew Demko is an idiot? His Labatory like testing and conditions are what I base my facts on.

Guess who you tend to listen to? I don't know, enlighten me. Who do you listen to?

 

[Danny Linguini]

Andrew Demko is an idiot? His Labatory like testing and conditions are what I base my facts on.

Guess who you tend to listen to? I don't know, enlighten me. Who do you listen to?

I listen to people who actually use it in the real world. When I’m in the market for something, those are the opinions I seek out. There, now you’re enlightened.

 

[The Aflac Duck]

LOL, we haven’t had a spicy CRK thread in quite a while 🌶

 

[Officer's Match]

Sorry, I didn't have a chance to read

Clearly. But you did have the chance to become part of an exceedingly rare category for me, an IGNORED member. It takes an outstanding effort, so BRAVO.

 

[DayofReckoning]

Nah. Don't need to.

I don't do stupid things with knives like spine whacking and hanging weight off them so your opinion is worthless to me.

Your "jilted lover" opinion of the Sebenza is clearly in the vast minority or else they wouldn't be such hot sellers and CRK would have been out of business long ago.

They buy a slipjoint, who cares about lock strength? And not my opinion again, results of testing. Just because you don't like, or won't open your mind long enough to look at valid data doesn't make it go away.

Ah, so being hot sellers is what constitutes something being a good knife, huh?

With thinking like that above, no wonder they are hot sellers.

 

[Richard338]

Andrew Demko is an idiot? His Labatory like testing and conditions are what I base my facts on.

Guess who you tend to listen to? I don't know, enlighten me. Who do you listen to?

What's "Labatory"? Do you mean lavatory?

 

[DayofReckoning]

I listen to people who actually use it in the real world. When I’m in the market for something, those are the opinions I seek out. There, now you’re enlightened.

The lock is still weak and fails at 45lbs, no matter how many feel good, "my Sebenza is so awesome" posts Sebenza owners make

 

[Quiet]

Sorry, I didn't have a chance to read the whole thread, but I was just wondering if it's been mentioned yet that the Sebenza's inferior lock is amongst some of the weakest you find, regardless of price, and that Cold Steel's testing showed it produced one of the worst results they've ever recorded, with the lock collapsing under a mere 45lbs, and the knife closing on the very first spine wack? Was it mentioned that magnitudes of far "inferior" and vastly cheaper knives have much stronger locks than the Sebenza? Titanium on titanium lockup is not good engineering, no matter how many fanboys say otherwise.

Now, I'm certain the typical flood of strawman's are going to start flooding in, things like "Sebenza's lock is strong enough for whatever anyone would ever realistically need", or "those tests are unrealistic and have no value", blah blah blah. Imagine the responses if the Cold Steel failed and the Sebenza survived the test.

The supposed "tight tolerances" of the Sebenza are another talking point we see regurgitated time and time again at nauseum. All that's required is a simple google search and you will see the laundry list of Quality Control issues that appear on these knives, seemingly more in recent years, The "tight tolerances" are nothing more than a myth, at least now that is. Maybe there was a time when that was true, but far, far too many Quality Control issues pop up far too often.

The reality is the Sebenza is an overpriced POS with an inferior lock that gets massively outperformed by knives costing a fraction of the price, both in overall strength as well as heat treating of the steel. It's a knife that became and stayed popular not because of substance, but because of hype.

This is a hilariously trash take.

 

[DayofReckoning]

This is a hilariously trash take.

The lock still failed at 45lbs, and produced one the worst results EVER in testing magnitudes of knives. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.

 

[Quiet]

The lock still failed at 45lbs, and produced one the worst results EVER in testing magnitudes of knives. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.

Your one video of a specific knife gives you the ability to state “facts” about all CRK knives? ok then.

Trust me, you aren’t hurting my feelings. Your poor logic and super big attitude are a source of great amusement so far.

 

[TC]

You must understand that the Sebenza OBJECTIVELY produced one of the poorest results EVER. That's real DATA

Since you mention data: It is also a sample size of "1" - not a good thing for statistical relevancy.

 

[Knives&Lint]

I never said it was my opinion, it's fact. Please see the video. Note the video is not displaying properly for some reason at the moment, I'm not sure why. But one can see the result of some of the testing. They have put countless knives under the exact same testing. You must understand that the Sebenza OBJECTIVELY produced one of the poorest results EVER. That's real DATA, but again the same strawman "it's strong enough for me and all my buddies on Bladeforums (though 95% of Sebenzas are shelf queens, lol) therefor those spine Wacks and weigh hang tests mean nothing" always appears.

Funny you accused my post of being opinion, and that I should get a grip, when I actually have proof of my claims, whereas in your defense, you used "many who can attest for being served well" as being your proof.

Honestly, if you had came in here with pure DATA, such as that test, I likely wouldn't have responded. It's the hyperbolic name calling and dismissal of those who might disagree with your opinion (calling the Sebenza is a POS is obviously an opinion) that proves your argument weak, as it does in all arguments.

Furthermore, I should have clarified "including myself" in the number of members that have been served well by these knives. Meaning my own personal experience, using the knives in the real world, not as safe queens and neither as guinea pigs in a lock test.

Perhaps you came here for an argument, that's not my thing.

 

[J. Doyle]

They buy a slipjoint, who cares about lock strength? And not my opinion again, results of testing. Just because you don't like, or won't open your mind long enough to look at valid data doesn't make it go away.

Ah, so being hot sellers is what constitutes something being a good knife, huh?

With thinking like that above, no wonder they are hot sellers.

Slip joint knives have served mankind well for a LONG time.

If you are applying whacks or weight to the spine of a knife or stressing the lock, you're using it incorrectly or using the wrong tool for the job.

How strong a knife's lock is.....it's nothing more than marketing hype. And even the makers creating these strong innovative locks would tell you that (if they're being honest). It isn't necessary...and it isn't because their Sebenza (or any other lock) failed them. They design them and market them because they know people will buy into the hype. Ironic, isn't it? And I like overbuilt stuff and totally support them making money off people's insecurities and/or desire for the "best/strongest/etc". But I won't ever be convinced it's necessary or somehow better.

And still don't own a CRK and have no plans to.