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[tarmix101]

So was there a reason to kill that live tree other than showing off your knife?

Was it impossible to find a dead tree or a felled tree?

Also, why not just use an ax or a hatchet?

With you on every point.

 

[Joe Dirt]

I mean I'm not some crazy tree hugger or anything but I think we have a responsibility to take from the land only what we need. I don't destroy anything I don't need and I don't kill anything I am not going to eat.

 

[Inoxophile]

I mean I'm not some crazy tree hugger or anything but I think we have a responsibility to take from the land only what we need. I don't destroy anything I don't need and I don't kill anything I am not going to eat.

I believe that the responsible utilization of natural resources is acceptable and, in the long run, can be beneficial. There are many examples that illustrate the positive results of the appropriate management and utilization of natural resources (healthier animal populations, re-introduction of species to former ranges, re-forestation projects, etc.). There are also many examples that demonstrate the effects of the irresponsible utilization of natural resources.

One man cutting down one live tree because it's fun to see what his knife can do will not destroy the ecosystem where he found that tree. Similarly, one man killing one bison for fun in the American West of the 1880's would not have decimated the herds extant at that time and place.

 

[TNRat]

Can we get a pic of the saw teeth?

 

[Joe Dirt]

......One man cutting down one live tree because it's fun to see what his knife can do will not destroy the ecosystem where he found that tree. Similarly, one man killing one bison for fun in the American West of the 1880's would not have decimated the herds extant at that time and place.

Correct. What happens when thousands of people do it to one tree? How about hundreds of thousands? How do you think that Bison were almost extinct? Your attitude on this idea is why animals go extinct. "I'm only gonna kill one." Then 60,000 other guys like you just "kill one".

All I'm saying is that I've never seen a responsible outdoors person cut a tree down for fun. There has to be purpose, and I don't mean to see how well your knife will do. He could have shown the same thing just as well with a dead log. Again, I ask what's the purpose? I bet I could have used the woodsaw on a $25 Victorinox One Hand Trekker and cut through that same tree faster. I could have done it with a sharp ax way faster. I just don't understand why people use knives as a hatchet. That would be "OK" in a pinch but that's it.

Use the right tools for the job. Be responsible. Don't take what you don't need.

 

[TNRat]

I think the entire my-knife-will-do-anything-phenomenon(sic) is much the same as the handgun argument.

Many people hate handguns. They despise handguns b/c handguns are litterally good at nothing. I mean nothing. Except one thing. A person is more likely to have a handgun on their person at any given moment b/c the rifle/shotgun was left in the truck.

The minimalist approach is that you are not going to carry an axe, bow saw, or whatever when I set out to hike the Appalachian Trail. Therefore, I better have something that is a decent substitute.

Any idiot knows an axe will go through a tree better. I personally feel axes suck. The best tool for the job is Mr. Stihl! The only problem is, I'm not carrying that thing anywhere w/o the truck being right there.

 

[rocktheflock]

Many people hate handguns. They despise handguns b/c handguns are litterally good at nothing. I mean nothing. Except one thing. A person is more likely to have a handgun on their person at any given moment b/c the rifle/shotgun was left in the truck.


I LOVE MY GUNS EQAULLY AS DO MY KNIVES

 

[Jeff M.]

Correct. What happens when thousands of people do it to one tree? How about hundreds of thousands? How do you think that Bison were almost extinct? Your attitude on this idea is why animals go extinct. "I'm only gonna kill one." Then 60,000 other guys like you just "kill one".

Joe...
Good point...
I couldn't agree more!!! However, the bison count did not drop because of one guy killing one bison and so forth. Not even at the numbers you posted. They were almost brought to extinction by hundreds of thousands being killed at one time by people who just wanted the hides, or just wanted to kill for sport. They were slaughtered by the thousands for years. Hunting parties of 20 men could kill hundreds alone. Now should we all start chopping down living trees just to see how good our knives are? Well heck no! It just doesn't make any sense at all! Have fun, but do it responsibly!!!

Jeff

 

[Joe Dirt]

Jeffj M.,

Thanks for the info about the Bison. I knew it was man killing them off but I just couldn't remember how it happened.

I guess my point really is that man screws up so much stuff without respect it just boggles my mind.

 

[Jeff M.]

We all think we're too smart until it's too late and animals and trees are almost gone. I see a lot of pics here of guys chopping down live trees:thumbdn: But if they didn't once the entire time while they were chop'n away think "hey maybe the dead one over there would be better", then they aren't going to ever get it?!?!?

Jeff

 

[lotus1972]

"Mister!" he said with a sawdusty sneeze, I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees.:jerkit:
"Plant a new Truffula. Treat it with care. Give it clean water. And feed it fresh air. Grow a forest. Protect it from the axes that hack. Then the Lorax and all his friends may come back."

Not to be insulting but bagging on the guy because he cut a tree in his own yard is crazy. Dead wood cuts alot different from live wood so I understand the reasons and that cut was not going to destroy the tree. I liked the whole Michael Moore thinking though in how all of the sudden this guy who cut a tree in his back yard gets linked with destroying the Buffalo. If you live in a major city then you most likely live where a forest once was so you better move and plant tree's there. And stop writing because paper destroys tree's. You must also quit using money ( these things don't get made from dead tree's ).
See how crazy this paragraph was . lighten up on the guy were here to talk about our common shared interest knives.

 

[Joe Dirt]

At least my post made you all think. That's all it was intended to do.

 

[lotus1972]

At 12 1/2 inches and 1/2 inch wide my WSK is truly a monster capable of doing the task I want it to. And no my sawback is not a saw it is a notcher at which it is very good for. For those who may have missed the other post I had this WSK was created specifically to correct some things I did not like about the original design. The width of the belly is 3 inches which moves the sweet spot to the right place on the belly rather than trying to extend the handle which was done in the original to make up for the 2 inch belly. The 1/2 inch stock was because of the tip breaking problem I have heard much about in the TOPS models and because IF I wanted to put my knife through a tree Del Toro style it could be done. I also had a convex grind to get rid of the horrible TOPS bevel that so many guys get reground and because it's easier to sharpen and keep sharp. I kept the 1095 as I felt that it was the easiest to sharpen and hold an edge and D2 would have been an anvil at this size. At current it is over 2 pounds but it is not a barbell. I like the weight because for the fun factor weight is important in that when I throw it ( it is thrown like an axe but can be done short distances underhand ) I want it to stick solidly and on the offchance I don't get blade first there is no bounce back and I will still give a concussion or knockout to a living organism ( sometimes I need to take out sweepers ).
I wonder if the guy who built that custom WSK has ever considered making one with 1/2 inch? I know I have seen other knives by him done in 1/2 inch stock.

 

[Inoxophile]

"Mister!" he said with a sawdusty sneeze, I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees.:jerkit:
"Plant a new Truffula. Treat it with care. Give it clean water. And feed it fresh air. Grow a forest. Protect it from the axes that hack. Then the Lorax and all his friends may come back."

Not to be insulting but bagging on the guy because he cut a tree in his own yard is crazy. Dead wood cuts alot different from live wood so I understand the reasons and that cut was not going to destroy the tree. I liked the whole Michael Moore thinking though in how all of the sudden this guy who cut a tree in his back yard gets linked with destroying the Buffalo. If you live in a major city then you most likely live where a forest once was so you better move and plant tree's there. And stop writing because paper destroys tree's. You must also quit using money ( these things don't get made from dead tree's ).
See how crazy this paragraph was . lighten up on the guy were here to talk about our common shared interest knives.

I agree that our purpose here is to discuss issues related to our common interest in knives. The fact that we do, in fact, share this common interest is precisely why the question raised by Mr. Dirt is deserving of consideration. To my mind, the fundamental issue is one of responsible vs. irresponsible behavior. The members of this forum do not need a recitation of the innumerable assaults directed at the knife community, much of it stemming more from public perception than reality. I do not know the context surrounding the photos posted to open this thread. I don't know if the setting is the individuals back yard, and I don't know how many trees were chopped down in order to thoroughly test his collection of knives. Perhaps he was clearing the land so a troop of girl scouts could come in and plant a field of petunias, but all of this is immaterial if his behavior is perceived as being irresponsible. I do not think this is productive in promoting our interests, and I do not accept the arguement that supporting this behavior is justified because dead wood cuts differently than live wood.

As to addressing the other points you raise, the responses I would offer seem obvious enough to not require enumeration here.

 

[Myakka]

It's not my knife, but I love the the como :thumbup: Linger Knife and Hedgehog sheath. I think this photo is beautiful.

Ron

 

[ml100]

So was there a reason to kill that live tree other than showing off your knife?

Was it impossible to find a dead tree or a felled tree?

Before you all go crazy about that tree. I showed these photos also in the german knife forum, where I stated right at the beginning that no damage was done to that "living tree". I would never cut down a sound tree.
This specific trunk was already broken (for what ever reason) about 40 inches above the area where I cut it. So cool down everyone.

 

[Inoxophile]

Before you all go crazy about that tree. I showed these photos also in the german knife forum, where I stated right at the beginning that no damage was done to that "living tree". I would never cut down a sound tree.
This specific trunk was already broken (for what ever reason) about 40 inches above the area where I cut it. So cool down everyone.

At the risk of overstating the obvious, the particulars of this situation are inconsequential inasmuch as the photographs you present, whether accurate depictions or not, do not convey to the viewer the concept of responsible behavior. As is the case with the written and spoken word, photographs have great power to convey ideas and concepts. To reiterate from a previous post, it is likely that the knife community is damaged more by public perception than reality. Consequently, I think it is incumbent upon each of us to do what we can to promote as positive and responsible an image as possible. I do not believe that presenting the photos as you did accomplishes this goal.

 

[Daniel Moore]

Inoxophile:

Don't you think that was a long way to go just to use a few silver-dollar words? If you actually think that he should have taken the picture differently to show that the tree was already dead so that people would consider him (and the knife community) to be reasonable and responsible people, then I would have to say that you are only encouraging the types of morons who would be offended by that picture and the ownership and use of knives. It is totally reasonable to test a knife on a tree. The primary function of a knife like that is to be able to chop trees and act as a knife or a prybar or saw in a survival situation. It would be irresponsible to go out into the woods and camp without knowing if your knife will be able to perform well enough to keep some branches over your head and some fire in the pit. From what you've written, I gather that you're a complete dullard, but do you mean to tell me that you've never drawn pictures or written something on paper for fun - something other than boring people at cocktail parties with a written self-assurance of your own intelligence? I have a hard time believing that you haven't been responsible for a hefty amount of deforestation, air pollution, oil consumption, or any other human act that might harm nature. Quit trying to put yourself above everyone, and quit accommodating and contributing to the hypocritical liberal ideas that you have so blandly expressed here.

Did I mention I like the knife? What are you keeping in the pouch on the sheath- a stone or a multi-tool or something of the like?

 

[t1mpani]

It's not my knife, but I love the the como :thumbup: Linger Knife and Hedgehog sheath. I think this photo is beautiful.

Ron

And here I thought I had the only ironwood WSK! Nice shot!

 

[Inoxophile]

Inoxophile:

Don't you think that was a long way to go just to use a few silver-dollar words? If you actually think that he should have taken the picture differently to show that the tree was already dead so that people would consider him (and the knife community) to be reasonable and responsible people, then I would have to say that you are only encouraging the types of morons who would be offended by that picture and the ownership and use of knives. It is totally reasonable to test a knife on a tree. The primary function of a knife like that is to be able to chop trees and act as a knife or a prybar or saw in a survival situation. It would be irresponsible to go out into the woods and camp without knowing if your knife will be able to perform well enough to keep some branches over your head and some fire in the pit. From what you've written, I gather that you're a complete dullard, but do you mean to tell me that you've never drawn pictures or written something on paper for fun - something other than boring people at cocktail parties with a written self-assurance of your own intelligence? I have a hard time believing that you haven't been responsible for a hefty amount of deforestation, air pollution, oil consumption, or any other human act that might harm nature. Quit trying to put yourself above everyone, and quit accommodating and contributing to the hypocritical liberal ideas that you have so blandly expressed here.

Blandly??? Perhaps I am something of a dullard because I don't seem to be able to distill out some coherent logical arguement from your rambling diatribe to which I might respond. Maybe I would better understand if I too had the mentality of a Junior John Rambo.