WSK up for auction on eBay

What secrets? The process of knife making is hardly a secret. Micheal Angelo, "Well, ya know, I got some ladders and kid of slapped on the paint wherever I didnt see an angel"

We are knife nuts, we know about the making of a knife (for the most part) you are not divulging the ingredients of a potion to turn dog turds into gold.

We are interested in the Heat treat, the final Rc and other stuff to feed our habit. If you went to the makers for sale section you may get a better idea of what kind of info people on this site are looking for, in all honesty its not a lot to ask.
 
orthogonal1 said:
chardin: As for me, having gone through literally hundreds of knives over the years...
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Why are you addressing me as if I were the maker of this knife? I'm not. I brought it to the attention of the forum and made some remarks about it, but that's all.
 
redscorpion6: I am very sorry to see you leave under these circumstances. I hope you reconsider your decision. Some folks here came on a bit strong, but they have seen a lot of scammers and they have learned to be careful.

I don't think it would hurt to discuss your heat treatment process and your Rockwell hardness targets; knifemakers discuss those openly on these forums all the time without any apparent hesitation. It is the skill and the style of the knifemaker that makes one blade different from another, not some secret process. Knifemaking isn't plutonium refinement; it's been pretty well understood for a long time now, and while there are design innovations, there's not much new under the sun with respect to manufacturing processes.

I am sorry that your experience of this forum was initally so negative, and feel somewhat responsible since I made the introductory post int his thread. However, there may be something to be gained here. Someone here might know something that can help you. That's why such forums exist.

Again, I hope you decide to come back, but will respect your decision either way.
 
Temper said:
What secrets? The process of knife making is hardly a secret. Micheal Angelo, "Well, ya know, I got some ladders and kid of slapped on the paint wherever I didnt see an angel"

We are knife nuts, we know about the making of a knife (for the most part) you are not divulging the ingredients of a potion to turn dog turds into gold.

We are interested in the Heat treat, the final Rc and other stuff to feed our habit. If you went to the makers for sale section you may get a better idea of what kind of info people on this site are looking for, in all honesty its not a lot to ask.
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Shoot, beat me to it. :D

Yes, there is an entire set of forums here dedicated to custom knifemakers sharing methods, ideas, and knowledge. I seriously doubt you've come up with anything for 440C that qualifies as top-secret. I understand that maybe you weren't prepared for the questions, but you have to realize--since you're now aware of the questions--that refusing to answer and becoming defensive doesn't inspire confidence in prospective buyers. It's a good idea to ask doctors, lawyers, painters, what-have-you basic questions like, "So, how are you going about this" before turning yourself over to them. It's not like their credibility is being challenged, it's just a little bit of confidence bolstering for the client/customer.

Now, I ask you, if you were buying a car from somebody, and asked them, "So, how many miles are on it? Has it ever been damaged? Are you the original owner?" and were responded to with "What?!? I'm not telling you that!!! It's a good car--are you calling me a crook?!!? What's your problem?"
...would you buy it?

Nobody is saying you don't know how to make a good knife, nobody is saying you're trying to fool us. What we're saying is, "Tell us about these knives of yours and how you've gone about making them. We are knife enthusiasts and are interested in such details." If you continue to snap and snarl at this question, and I can guarantee you a customer base is not something you'll find here.
 
redscorpion6 said:
:rolleyes:Hey, Fellas I heard there was some chatter out here about our knife. Wow I am flattered did not think I would get this type of response. Well here is the skinny straight from the horses mouth, I am up for putting our knife to the test. Let's come up with a standard test and put it through the ringer. One thing I have learned from my years in ARMY is that you should put your money where your mouth is or just go away. Dave Beck is one of my hero's I liked the knife could not find one, hell, I could not even get my hands on the TOPS Tracker. Emailed Roger Linger but was not up for the 6-8 month wait. So I built it.
RED Scorpion Six Blades, Inc.
RS6-Blades signing off
aaron@redscorpionsix.com :cool:
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You built it Yes :cool: 1000 pic baby!!:D
Your presentation is not so nice
 
More and more this looks like a half ass attempt at making a buck. A few guys in on it too. :) Too funny there both in every thread concerning this knife.
Good luck with sales..........Say what you need to to retaliate - Just makes my point easier to be made ;)

I was looking forward to a review but like I said....we wont see this knife being offered to us for a fair review :)
 
I knew that this thread would be good...anyone find it strange that in the Knife Exchange, Wanted to Buy...there were 3-4 ads for the Beck WSK one offering to buy one for $2000.00:eek:, that was yesterday as this thread was developing.

blgoode, t1mpani, Temper, and others...well done. Preston
 
Danbo - Let us know if you ever see one in person :)
 
blgoode said:
More and more this looks like a half ass attempt at making a buck. A few guys in on it too. :) Too funny there both in every thread concerning this knife.
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Sir, if you are referring to me, let's take this offline. PM me to arrange the details.

CCH
 
Then who do you mean? Name them. If we have frauds here, it would be nice to know who they are.
 
the guilty usually out themselves :)

Didnt mean to upset you Chuck - Threads and situations like this seem to work themselves out in my experience.
 
price just went to $250 toay on his website............
 
I can only think of a couple of reasons why a knifemaker won't disclose the info on his blade.

1. He doesn't Know

2. Maybe it isn't even properly heat treated and it is a scam?

3. he has the poorest business sense imaginable, and doesn't consider that he is alienating the majority of people actually willing to spend $200 or more on a knife.

Even companies that have closely held heat treating methods will disclose the Rockwell numbers and specs for their knives.

Or does everyone buy knives with no information other than the fact that the guy selling it says it is great.:jerkit:
 
you forgot:

4) He/She knows best and how dare you question their knowledge/integrity.
 
Or

5) He borrowed some Mystical Samurai steel from Shiva Ki and is trying to keep it on the down low....
 
OilMan said:
Or

5) He borrowed some Mystical Samurai steel from Shiva Ki and is trying to keep it on the down low....
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Now THAT my friend is steeping too low!!!! Thats some funny STUFF!!!
 
OilMan said:
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5) He borrowed some Mystical Samurai steel from Shiva Ki and is trying to keep it on the down low....
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"You are one of those ancient warrior spirits of which I spoke, so I will say 13 for that next blade. That makes you up +5 on this
one, and +5 on the other two. I like that, makes me feel good. I`m sure
you feel likewise.";)
 
blgoode said:
the guilty usually out themselves :)
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That's true, isn't it? Frauds are never as clever as they think they are, and if they were smart enough to make it honestly, that's what they'd do instead.

blgoode said:
Didnt mean to upset you Chuck - Threads and situations like this seem to work themselves out in my experience.
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Eh, I shouldn't have gotten upset. Sorry about that. I actually have no dog in this fight, except to note another implementation of a concept I find interesting. A good implementation would be noteworthy. A bad one...well, there are already quite a few of those. I'm thinking of making a small set of webpages on the history and design of the WSK, and there will be a Rogue's Gallery of bad ones, including the incredibly cheap Russian version with a handle that looks like it was made out of an AK-47 stock, a saw that's more like a file, and sawteeth on the hide scraper. Now that's a scam!
 
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