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Price is$300$250 ea (shipped within CONUS). If you live outside the US, I will contact you after your order for extra shipping charges.
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New York Knife Show, California Custom Knife Show, Annual USN Gathering and Blade Show in Atlanta.
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Unless you go to a show you're pretty much doomed to pay two to three times retail on the "used" market.
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Win a lottery at a show. You then get a chance to buy one. I got my 24 @ Blade 2011 ATL. There were a couple hundredlottery tickets for a chance at under 50 knives/ lottery. They did this a couple times.
You can spend hours on-line and on the phone trying to hunt one down thru a retailer. Better be flexible on style and price. You might find something at an ok price but not in your 1st choice of configuration, grind, steel, or colors, etc.
There is always option 3 (only applies to those who serve)...
http://www.rickhindererknives.com/products-page/rick-hinderer-knives/rick-hinderer-xm-18-3-5/
You can spend hours on-line and on the phone trying to hunt one down thru a retailer. Better be flexible on style and price. You might find something at an ok price but not in your 1st choice of configuration, grind, steel, or colors, etc.
There is always option 3 (only applies to those who serve)...
http://www.rickhindererknives.com/products-page/rick-hinderer-knives/rick-hinderer-xm-18-3-5/
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Cappy,
I use my Hinderers everyday. Once you get one you will understand why.
It is not easy to get them and that is part of the appeal.
Keep in mind they are not "$900 knives". They are (in the case of production versions) knives with MSRP up to the high end of $650 for a XM-24 w/ c/f scale (all Ti a bit more) that command $900+ dollars in the after market. Again, once you get one you will understand why. I cannot part with my Hinderers for anything less than a ridiculous sum of dollars or a comparable valued knife/ knives. And I am NOT suggesting a sell or trade, just pointing out my level of "like" for my Hinderers.
I used to subscribe to the theory that my EDC should be a "good enough" knife in the $50-100 range. Then I spent years disappointed with most everything I chose to carry. Each would ultimately let me down in some way. Now, I have found the right tools for me and it will take something extraordinary to get me to switch.
Put in the work and a Hinderer will find you, fellow " knife nut."
There are worse choices than EMT school, just don't consider it for the wrong reasons.
I use my Hinderers everyday. Once you get one you will understand why.
It is not easy to get them and that is part of the appeal.
Keep in mind they are not "$900 knives". They are (in the case of production versions) knives with MSRP up to the high end of $650 for a XM-24 w/ c/f scale (all Ti a bit more) that command $900+ dollars in the after market. Again, once you get one you will understand why. I cannot part with my Hinderers for anything less than a ridiculous sum of dollars or a comparable valued knife/ knives. And I am NOT suggesting a sell or trade, just pointing out my level of "like" for my Hinderers.
I used to subscribe to the theory that my EDC should be a "good enough" knife in the $50-100 range. Then I spent years disappointed with most everything I chose to carry. Each would ultimately let me down in some way. Now, I have found the right tools for me and it will take something extraordinary to get me to switch.
Put in the work and a Hinderer will find you, fellow " knife nut."
There are worse choices than EMT school, just don't consider it for the wrong reasons.
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I didnt mean to imply there was anything wrong with EMT school...I think its quite a noble professional. I was just saying it would probably be easier to spend 2-3 years in training and spend the money to get my EMT certification than find the Hinderer..
Thats all... i will keep looking! Rick or Rob, if you can hear me, send some love my way!!
Thats all... i will keep looking! Rick or Rob, if you can hear me, send some love my way!!
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That sucks
Who wants to make a user out of a 900$ knife...Ill just end up staring at it. Seems like it would be easier to go to EMT school then acquire one.
Come on Rick! Help a knife lover out!
....Or you could attend one of the 4 knife shows we go to each year, or 1 of the 2 GTG's we have at the shop. If those options don't work for you, be diligent watching the dealer sites.
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since there is such a high demand for them, you can trust that they are good hard use knives and the maker has a good reputation.
i think it's funny that when they go to dealers, the price immediately goes up $200. but, again, showing us that they are awesome knives that many people want and trust. hopefully one day i will get my hands on one...(my grail knife)
i think it's funny that when they go to dealers, the price immediately goes up $200. but, again, showing us that they are awesome knives that many people want and trust. hopefully one day i will get my hands on one...(my grail knife)
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Hinderer folders are awesome. Once I got my first one, I knew it was a user. I have said before, I use but do not abuse. I am confident my Hinderers will perform and well.
For me, I tend to not think of how much money I have invested in my quality items. I seek out the best value (for me) and make the most educated purchasing decisions I can.
Good luck to everyone in acquiring their grail items no matter what they are.
For me, I tend to not think of how much money I have invested in my quality items. I seek out the best value (for me) and make the most educated purchasing decisions I can.
Good luck to everyone in acquiring their grail items no matter what they are.
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Chuka,
They sell for MSRP at shows. I would post those prices here or bump the XM price thread on page 3, but I don't want to repost others info or be wrong. Whatever the price at a show, it is most likely cheaper than any other price for the knife, unless you are one of the few who can order direct.
They sell for MSRP at shows. I would post those prices here or bump the XM price thread on page 3, but I don't want to repost others info or be wrong. Whatever the price at a show, it is most likely cheaper than any other price for the knife, unless you are one of the few who can order direct.
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The issue of price and availability while many times debated is really pretty basic economics.
High Quality products create their own demand level.
IF the High Quality item is of a limited supply then I think everybody knows the rest of that equation.
IF it were not for reputable retailers selling the limited quantity High Quality item then we would all be pretty much sunk UNLESS one lives within commuting distance to one of the four(4) aforementioned Knife Show locales.
Yes, the retailer must "mark up" the sought after item in order to stay in business and continue to provide a much needed and sometimes even appreciated service.
I really never have understood the problem "some" have with someone making a buck but then again I have had to actually run a business in order to support a family and that is a perspective indeed.
So, many thanks to Rick/Rob and the gang for their Great Quality Product and to the retailers that offer up that product while paying the associated expenses and incurring the risk of operating a business that provides a service - Thank You as well.
High Quality products create their own demand level.
IF the High Quality item is of a limited supply then I think everybody knows the rest of that equation.
IF it were not for reputable retailers selling the limited quantity High Quality item then we would all be pretty much sunk UNLESS one lives within commuting distance to one of the four(4) aforementioned Knife Show locales.
Yes, the retailer must "mark up" the sought after item in order to stay in business and continue to provide a much needed and sometimes even appreciated service.
I really never have understood the problem "some" have with someone making a buck but then again I have had to actually run a business in order to support a family and that is a perspective indeed.
So, many thanks to Rick/Rob and the gang for their Great Quality Product and to the retailers that offer up that product while paying the associated expenses and incurring the risk of operating a business that provides a service - Thank You as well.
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i dont have a problem with it either and i hope that my post didnt come across that way
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i dont have a problem with it either and i hope that my post didnt come across that way
No, not specifically. I believe if memory serves you alluded to it being "funny" that once the knife arrives at a retailer for resale that the price immediately goes up $200.00. You did go on to attribute the price to the quality of the knife.
I was referring to the more Macro obseravation that I see more relating to the Hinderer Knives than to others,
Hinderer (Thank Rick and God) has stuck to limited Quality production rather than expanding and watering down the brand. ALL who own Hinderer knives should Hope that this production philosophy continues rather than ever even alluding to any frustration in not having them readily available. Take a Generation 2 XM18 as an example, lets say one was able to procure one at simply list price ($385) OR maybe had to fork out $400-$500 on the secondary market (worst case of the two).
Look on Ebay today. Those Gen 2's are bringing as much as $3500.00.
Do ANY Gen2 owners want to see that ever change? I know I wouldn't if I was one of those folks.
Now, IF the logic continues. Gen3's will follow suit once Gen4's show up and the band plays on.
So, Economics being as much a study of the Human condition as it is a study of Finance... so goes this wonderful story of a True Great American icon in the making.
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