Yet another contest.

munkey, if you are in the part of cali it looks like, then the organic duff around those coastal cedars make excellent insulation, and cedar bark and planks can be used for waterproofing. Look to the Makah and Kwakayutl indians for design ideas. they reached and extremely high level of complexity in their longhouses, with construction methods that can easily be replicated in a survival situation.

North Vancouver actually. Similar climates, both coastal rain forests we just get more rain.

I'll try to find some stuff from them. Thanks.

Localy we have the Heida, who would weave soaked cedar strips into baskets and dope ass hats like these.

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I assume the Makah and Kwakayutl did something similar by weaving cedar strips between ribs on a large scale for shelter? could be fun.
 
After reading the "rules" Jeff posted, I figured why the heck not give it a try. So after a quick Google search on how to build one I rounded up my little helpers, grabbed my Izula and off we went to try to build our first every debris shelter in the front yard (boy did we get some strange looks from the neighbors).

Well this was so much more fun then I thought it would be. I'm glad I took my two 4 1/2 year old boys out to help me (I think they got it more then I did anyway).

We started out looking for a small tree or sapling we could use for the "spine" of our shelter. We found a small sapling about 2-21/2 in so we took it for our "spine" (is that what it would be called), it took a little time and work but that knife just keep going and going. It took a little time and batoning to get through the tree but it did and the knife does not have a scratch on it. I can not believe how tough this little knife really is. After all of the abuse (use) I put it through, I wiped it off and it still looks brand new. I really thought I was going to have to pull out my Ka-Bar to cut down the tree, it never left it's sheath. That Izula was just amazing, I just keeps alternating the angle of the blade while batoning and cut right through like an ax.

Next we started to search out some dead wood or broken branches. We found some, but it was not looking too good, we could not find enough.
Then we found this plant that looked like some kind of bamboo (not sure if bamboo can grow wild and out doors in the northeast with the cold in the winter, going to have to look that up later) well it was easy to cut and was light and strong enough for our shelter so we used it.


I tried to alternate the sticks to make it stronger.


That ghost xing sign is about 2 1/2-3 feet tall (it got buried later).

Now before you all jump on me for making it so high, I kinda had too. With the two little "helpers" I figured if I made it any lower it might not make it (to get any pics). I needed to make it high and strong to put up with the little ones running in and out of it (they kept telling me it was a tree fort or tree house, LOL). Anyway that is why it was so high off the ground. If it was for a real emergency it would have been a lot lower to the ground (and easier to make) I would say an least 1 1/2 feet lower. I also did not make a door covering to the shelter either for the same reason (It would not survive my boys for more then a minute, they are a demolition crew) with them playing in it.

And now come the leaves, lots and lots of leaves. The boys had a really good time helping out with this part. We had almost 4 feet of leaves around it and about 2 1/2 on the very top at least if not more.


My little helpers, Jake and Chris. (look daddy, I have a leaf)


It was a lot harder to pile up the leaves high up.


I put a 33 gallon trash barrel next to the shelter for a size comparison.


Jake, all the way inside the shelter, with room to spare. He kept bring leaves in to the shelter to hide in (lol).


Both boys in the shelter.


I told Jake to stand up to help out with the size comparison he is just shy of 4 feet tall.

All in all we had a really great time making it. My boys have not stopped talking about it. My wife on the other hand keeps telling I have "gone off the reservation". It took us most of the day to build it. With a lunch break and the boys taking leaves off of the shelter while I was putting them on (lol, 4yo's go figure). They slept very well last night.

I know we did not make the shelter perfect, but I figure for a first try (with the little helpers) it was not too bad. I know both of the boys fit in the shelter at the same time (a little tight but they could), and this was one of the reasons it was so big (god forbid if only one could get in at a time, it would have been WWIII). I know leaving the side support sticks sticking over the top is a no, no but I figured with the size we were making it would help support the the top of the shelter better (and it did keep the top debris in place very well). With the sticks on the sides being longer it also made it less likely that the boys could knock them out of place and turn our experiment in to a big mess (lol). Not putting on a doorway was for easy access for the kids to play in it, if this was a real survival situation it would have had a much smaller entrance that would have stuck out at least 1-2 feet. If I had not made accommodations for the two little four foot demolition crew I'm sure the shelter would have been nothing more then a big pile of debris (lol, that was a really bad joke).

I guess I should stop going on and on here like I just built the Hover dam. After all it was only debris shelter.

Here is a link to all of the pics I took of our shelter building fun. (as I can only attach or embed 10 pics in this post)
http://img140.imageshack.us/g/img0434k.jpg/
 
went up on monday and built a brush lodge sealed with snow. It fir three people nicely and had a built in fireplace for heating. I'll get the photos posted as soon as I have the time to upload them.
 
Crowdog, when you get back, I might need to use your RAT knife and get in on this competition. Looks like a good time, regardless of outcome in the competition. It gets people out there any actually using their tools. Most excellent.

EDIT: Nice shelters b.t.w. to everyone who has posted pics so far. Gives me ideas on how I can get mine done.
 
Just some additional info/cliff notes that we’ve discussed and is spread throughout this thread that others might be curious about:

I hadn’t done this before and wanted to learn something, so realism was my main goal. I built the shelter alone, took all pics with a timer, used nothing that I wouldn’t have with me any time I’m in the woods. Built the shelter just big enough for me because most of the time, I’m out alone. That’s about it. Had a good time, learned a lot. Thanks again for the opportunity, Jeff.

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Well here we go. This is pretty long so don’t fall asleep. I’ll edit this as I remember details.

I decided from the get-go that if I was going to do this, I wanted to take my time and do it as "right" as a rookie could do and learn something in the process. This is the first debris shelter I've ever built, so be easy on me.

I looked for a place that was away from water and other hazards including dead trees, big limbs overhead, etc. I found a nice little opening and chose a tree that would help block some wind from the direction my head was laying. The ground is on a high spot and was the driest spot in the immediate area. You could see where the water naturally drained away. Bonus.

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I found a good ridge pole and put my weight on it once it was set in the fork of the tree to test it. It had a slight crook at the end, so once I put it in the fork, I rotated it 180 degrees which locked it in to the fork. At the foot, I rested it in a forked stick for a little extra foot clearance because when I tested it sitting on the ground, it was a little short height wise.

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Ridge pole set

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Mocking up the angle for my framing

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I wanted my opening to face the way that would get the most sun. Here I am framing it up.

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Preliminary opening framing

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Adding to it.

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Now we're getting somewhere. One stick at a time.

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Hey that looks halfway right!

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Bed time. I left this area open so I could put about 6-8" of bedding inside. I then framed over it.

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Time to start filling gaps with smaller twigs and stuff I thought would help shed water.

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Let the organized piling begin!

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Damn, that's a lot of grass!

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I found a tinder bundle. Another bonus!

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Let's see how dark it is inside at this point....not bad, but it needs more.

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Just big enough for me, I should be able to heat this thing pretty well.

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What are you standing around for? Get back to work!

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At least 2 feet thick, is Jeff nuts? Also in this pic I have my “door” in place. I have a pile of good sticks outside the shelter that stack against the outside of my opening and a good pile of debris inside to push against it to block the wind.

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Weren't we supposed to water test these? Ladies and gents I'd like you to meet "Gomer". In you go, Gomer. Laid him in there just as I would be sleeping in it.

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I make it rain. 2 gallon watering can, a couple trips to the creek should make a good "rain". Soak the whole thing.

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As I worked to the end of the shelter, I emptied the rest of the can at the foot area. Looks like a few good drops got through, which I’m pointing at. A mini version of Jeff appeared on my shoulder shouting “You call that debris?”

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Time for more debris. I built it up to between 2 to 2 and a half feet.

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Another water test as before. Dry as a bone! Yes!

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Smile, this has been a learning experience!

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Remember that tinder bundle? Not bad setting a 10 second timer and running to the bundle and lighting it on the first strike with a ferro rod and my RC-4.

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And here she is.

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So what do you think for a first-timer, Jeff? I welcome any comments and critiques from all. I’m happy with the way it turned out. They say hard work pays off so I was hoping to find a $20 bill in some of that debris. No dice.

Things I learned or surprised me:

1. I found most of my debris within 25 yards of my build site.
2. I didn’t HAVE to use my knife at all. I did for a couple things, just to use it.
3. Take your time and save your energy. Gathering beats cutting trees and brush.
4. The stick framing was actually the easy part. Adding all that debris to insulate it and make it waterproof is a good bit of work.
5. 2+ feet of debris is a lot. When you think "that's enough" it's not, hence my first water test. Rain WILL find one small hole to drip through.
 
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Nice one adamman!

I've been doing some research about how to do it better my next outing, but now I'd almost feel bad if it ended by beating Glockasp and his kids.
 
Wow! That looks great Adaman.

Very ingenous way to test for rain proof :thumbup: ETA (I meant Gomer, not the water can :)
 
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Nice work Adaman. Gives me some nice ideas for my attempt as well. :thumbup:

I'm thinking of making mine where I'll be hunting from this year. :D :D
 
Having never built a debris shelter before I spent a few days last week reading different articles (including Jeff's comments and suggestions in this thread) and watching some videos on Youtube on how to effectively put one together. Yesterday I took my wife's cousin and her brother up the canyon to put that research to good use.

We spent over 4 hours but had a great time. Here's the final result...

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I also took the video camera up with us and put this little guy together. We learned a lot, that's for sure!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO2pmHsF268

I'll go into more detail on what I learned if you'd like, but the video tells a lot! ;)
 
I'm impressed with

GlockASp
Adaman04
Joe Fowler

All three are great debris shelters but the detail of Adaman04 is winning the contest. Did anyone sleep in their shelter over night?

Great work guys!
 
If leaves aint around this could be an alternative option (a lean to with a long log fire. The video has good details):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv6EjpwF4ZY

Are there any other options (besides from snowcaves) ? I dont know other but of course there is modifications of the debri hut and the "lean to" with a bed and long log fire.
 
I'm impressed with

GlockASp
Adaman04
Joe Fowler

All three are great debris shelters but the detail of Adaman04 is winning the contest. Did anyone sleep in their shelter over night?

Great work guys!

I meant to stay in mine longer... I even brought a small thermometer to check the temp after a while, but when that 6th bucket of water invaded the shelter that idea was scrapped!

I'll go up and build another one based on what I learned this time and stay in it longer. :thumbup:
 
I'm impressed with

GlockASp
Adaman04
Joe Fowler

All three are great debris shelters but the detail of Adaman04 is winning the contest. Did anyone sleep in their shelter over night?

Great work guys!

Thanks Jeff. This has been a…..uh learning experience? Yeah that’s it, a learning experience. My whole mental image of a survival shelter being a lean-to with an open front has been shaken up. Something wind and waterproof that offers protection trumps all for 3 of the 4 seasons in Missouri, in my opinion.

I didn’t sleep in mine, but once it was done I was considering it. I need to find a free night to try it out.
 
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