Y'know, I'm new here, so I'm kinda curious...

Damn Warrior.... Your pictures are phenomenal......

Snow Walker..... Glad you enjoyed the ride.... I do hope you make us a regular destination.... Thanks for dropping by..

By the way...... My regular woods line up when not testing something else is a Swiss Army with lock blade and saw, A Bk11, Bk16, and a Bk10...The Ten is usually in or on the pack.... SAK in the left front trouser pocket, The Eleven is around the neck and the Sweet Sixteen is on the belt...... All Best...Ethan

P.S. Your lovely wife will LOVE your new knives....LOL....e
 
Ethan Becker said:
Damn Warrior.... Your pictures are phenomenal......

Snow Walker..... Glad you enjoyed the ride.... I do hope you make us a regular destination.... Thanks for dropping by..

By the way...... My regular woods line up when not testing something else is a Swiss Army with lock blade and saw, A Bk11, Bk16, and a Bk10...The Ten is usually in or on the pack.... SAK in the left front trouser pocket, The Eleven is around the neck and the Sweet Sixteen is on the belt...... All Best...Ethan

P.S. Your lovely wife will LOVE your new knives....LOL....e
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Thanks E, appreciate it. By the way, you forgot your niner in that line up. ;)
 
I think the lads covered the finer points of batoning quite well so I won't rehash anything they have already said.

However, I will share an experience of mine that made me become a firm believer in the utility of batoning. (WARNING: A wee bit of blood below)

Shortly after becoming a member on these fine forums, I ventured out into the snow and cold for an overnighter. Knowing that I would be processing a fair amount of wood, I brought a large hatchet and more than a few knives (Beckers, all of them). There is nothing like getting some real world experience. You can read all of the forums in the world and glean what wisdom you might from them but nothing beats practical application and learning from the mistakes you inevitably will make.

I was splitting some wet rounds of wood into smaller pieces so that they might dry out a bit before burning. It was quite cold out, and the snow was very wet and heavy, my hands soon became quite cold. I was using the hatchet (after all, what are hatchets for?) and was holding a piece of wood upright and then bringing the hatchet down lightly to set it in the wood, always being sure to bring my arm away before the hatchet bit. However, it was cold, wet, and uncomfortable out and one of my swings did not land true, it glanced off the side of the small round and proceeded to slice my hand open (I keep my axes very sharp...)

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I was very lucky that I didn't sever a tendon but it had to be rather close. Once I controlled the bleeding, I carried on with my wilderness venture but I learned an invaluable lesson that day. Batoning would have been a far safer and infinitely more efficient practice. Axes have their uses, for sure, but knowing other techniques never hurts either and can certainly help keep some of that valuable red fluid sealed up where it is supposed to be.

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Pàdruig said:
I think the lads covered the finer points of batoning quite well so I won't rehash anything they have already said.

However, I will share an experience of mine that made me become a firm believer in the utility of batoning. (WARNING: A wee bit of blood below)

Shortly after becoming a member on these fine forums, I ventured out into the snow and cold for an overnighter. Knowing that I would be processing a fair amount of wood, I brought a large hatchet and more than a few knives (Beckers, all of them). There is nothing like getting some real world experience. You can read all of the forums in the world and glean what wisdom you might from them but nothing beats practical application and learning from the mistakes you inevitably will make.

I was splitting some wet rounds of wood into smaller pieces so that they might dry out a bit before burning. It was quite cold out, and the snow was very wet and heavy, my hands soon became quite cold. I was using the hatchet (after all, what are hatchets for?) and was holding a piece of wood upright and then bringing the hatchet down lightly to set it in the wood, always being sure to bring my arm away before the hatchet bit. However, it was cold, wet, and uncomfortable out and one of my swings did not land true, it glanced off the side of the small round and proceeded to slice my hand open (I keep my axes very sharp...)

qp1BQ1h.jpg


dZMmZXy.jpg


I was very lucky that I didn't sever a tendon but it had to be rather close. Once I controlled the bleeding, I carried on with my wilderness venture but I learned an invaluable lesson that day. Batoning would have been a far safer and infinitely more efficient practice. Axes have their uses, for sure, but knowing other techniques never hurts either and can certainly help keep some of that valuable red fluid sealed up where it is supposed to be.

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Fantastic Paddy Now thats how you bring the point home. Thank You for sharing that. Hows the hand now?
 
Tanker 1/66 said:
Fantastic Paddy Now thats how you bring the point home. Thank You for sharing that. Hows the hand now?
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It healed up great. My buddy who is an anesthesiologist told me I should have gone in and gotten stitches. I just kept it clean and bandaged and it knit itself back together nicely. Have a healthy scar there as a nice reminder now. I really am quite fortunate that I didn't cut the tendon, that was my immediate concern when I initially sprung a leak.
 
Pàdruig said:
It healed up great. My buddy who is an anesthesiologist told me I should have gone in and gotten stitches. I just kept it clean and bandaged and it knit itself back together nicely. Have a healthy scar there as a nice reminder now. I really am quite fortunate that I didn't cut the tendon, that was my immediate concern when I initially sprung a leak.
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Thats good to hear:thumbsup: I started carrying superglue and blood stopper in my pack. Ya just never know
 
Pàdruig said:
I think the lads covered the finer points of batoning quite well so I won't rehash anything they have already said.

However, I will share an experience of mine that made me become a firm believer in the utility of batoning. (WARNING: A wee bit of blood below)

Shortly after becoming a member on these fine forums, I ventured out into the snow and cold for an overnighter. Knowing that I would be processing a fair amount of wood, I brought a large hatchet and more than a few knives (Beckers, all of them). There is nothing like getting some real world experience. You can read all of the forums in the world and glean what wisdom you might from them but nothing beats practical application and learning from the mistakes you inevitably will make.

I was splitting some wet rounds of wood into smaller pieces so that they might dry out a bit before burning. It was quite cold out, and the snow was very wet and heavy, my hands soon became quite cold. I was using the hatchet (after all, what are hatchets for?) and was holding a piece of wood upright and then bringing the hatchet down lightly to set it in the wood, always being sure to bring my arm away before the hatchet bit. However, it was cold, wet, and uncomfortable out and one of my swings did not land true, it glanced off the side of the small round and proceeded to slice my hand open (I keep my axes very sharp...)

qp1BQ1h.jpg


dZMmZXy.jpg


I was very lucky that I didn't sever a tendon but it had to be rather close. Once I controlled the bleeding, I carried on with my wilderness venture but I learned an invaluable lesson that day. Batoning would have been a far safer and infinitely more efficient practice. Axes have their uses, for sure, but knowing other techniques never hurts either and can certainly help keep some of that valuable red fluid sealed up where it is supposed to be.

uYSEZRu.jpg
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^^^^^ THAT is the reason I switched to batoning in bad conditions or exhausted or tired or fatigued or hypothermiating. A clear ground in fair weather I might use another tool. Mass wood splitting I do with a Maul.
 
It's hard to hide blood in the snow. I believe my grandfather would have said "Das ist verboten...". Usually got that phrase when I made a mistake.
 
Snow Walker said:
It's hard to hide blood in the snow. I believe my grandfather would have said "Das ist verboten...". Usually got that phrase when I made a mistake.
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That is forbidden lol. My first wife was from Erlangen Germany. We met while I was in the Army. Used to speak the language quite good. Not so much now. Use it or lose it.
 
i'll just put this out there, having read the OP, and skimmed the first page. i'll read pages 2 and 3 soon i promise :D

batoning, is, crap. don't do it.

you want to do "that thing?"

there's a TOOL designed for that. it's called a FROE.

suckers are so massive, that Sasquatch use them for unspeakable things.

it's a classic wood workers tool. riving. for making things. for splitting along the grain for maximum strength.

the woodwright shoppe is all about that. making chairs. pegs. strength in wood.

doing it for survival? you'd risk your knife for that? no. make some glutes, and use better techniques.

somewhere, someone said "our knife is so tough you can ..." super. great :D

it's crap though :D
 
tanglediver said:
I think the Brute was reincarnated as a knife, but used to be a froe.
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a poorly maintained froe - they should have a relatively flat, straight edge. i think the original would snap if you applied the required twisting pressure to rive - remember, they don't just split from hammering on them with a commander, beetle, or glut, they are PRY BARS too :D
 
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