You ever have that thought about a knife...

marcinek said:
Im not following either. If some company, lets call them SCHMOG, can't make that collaboration at a price you find reasonable, what leads you to believe other makers, whose knives are at a similar price point, would be able to?
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He's saying he likes the design, can't afford the custom, but isn't going to pay for a cheaply made knife either.

In other words, he wants THAT design, but as a Mid-Tech.
 
Dangerously said:
Kind of the opposite. I wish someone else had made the Cold Steel Master Hunter 3V. It's a great knife with a great price, but it has 4 bits of info on the blade and each one is in a different font, each worse looking than the last. And 3V is spelled "3-V" on it too.

Great knife made by a company with no taste.
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I had to comment on this - I just could not agree any more with what you've said above. And I'll preface this with the gratuitous "no offense", but I just don't get CS & why the company has the great following it does...I want to like their stuff, but I largely don't, I think it's mostly the handle materials they choose to use, but it's also little stuff like "3-V".
 
DAVE_M said:
He's saying he likes the design, can't afford the custom, but isn't going to pay for a cheaply made knife either.

In other words, he wants THAT design, but as a Mid-Tech.
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Spot on. I'll pay $150-$200 for a GSD that has S30V and is made by a company with quality control like Spyderco or ZT.
 
DAVE_M said:
He's saying he likes the design, can't afford the custom, but isn't going to pay for a cheaply made knife either.

In other words, he wants THAT design, but as a Mid-Tech.
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Humph. Thanks! So its too expensive AND not expensive enough.
 
deltaboy said:
I wish Schrade was still in business in the USA.
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you got that right

I just picked up a Camillus electricians knife. I had one with me when I went off to college. The Swiss Army Knife of my generation.

Glitz is good, tech gets the job done, money is available for all these toys. But the good old days weren't bad at all, either.
 
stabman said:
I wish all (decent) knives were made by Grohmann Knives, and that they had a huge plant here in Windsor.
I further wish that I had a job there making knives, and got a bonus paid in knives for every holiday.
Plus, the salary would be huge, with full benefits, and I could afford a car and a house...both of which would be full of knives that I would get an employee discount on. :)

Hey, if you're going to wish, wish big, right? :D
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I wish Grohmann knives offered more variety in steels... and i wish i did a shop tour one of the times i was in the area so see where it all goes down. Thanks for putting that in my head. Maybe i'll stop by next summer and ask for that huge salary job you're talking about.
 
onojoe said:
I'm confused. Are you asking if we would like to see the current kiku collaboration made with better materials by another company?
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Well, that was my specific example. I'd even take the same knife by the same company with an upgraded steel and handle combo choice. But it was more just an example. I could name a lot of knives by CRKT that I think are awesome, but I'd pass them by because I'm a bit snobby about the steel.

marcinek said:
Im not following either. If some company, lets call them SCHMOG, can't make that collaboration at a price you find reasonable, what leads you to believe other makers, whose knives are at a similar price point, would be able to?
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Sorry for the confusion... The price point isn't the sole concern. I'd be willing to pay more than what SOG is asking for the Matsuda collaborations as long as the materials were better and the price was still a good bit below what the custom costs. Does that make more sense? Like something closer to a midtech rather than something that often comes in plastic bubble packaging in the camping gear section of the PX.

Not knocking the SOG collaboration for what it is, which is a great way of bringing custom designs to the affordable price point for most people, just wishing that some of them had a midline price point, too.

marcinek said:
Humph. Thanks! So its too expensive AND not expensive enough.
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Well, I guess when you put it that way... yeah, basically. I know I'm being picky. I'm not really complaining, though, just sort of idly wishing.

Esav Benyamin said:
Is that like Emerson being made by Kershaw? :)
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Oooh Esav goes there... I think this was actually excellent... If you just think about Emerson Customs and were to pretend that the Emerson factory knives weren't a thing, it would be kind of a perfect approach. You have a $50 Kershaw version for the kind of person who is into knives enough to know who Ernie Emerson is, but doesn't have the cash to pay for the custom. You have the $200 Zero Tolerance version for those of us who can afford a few nice production knives now and know enough about knives to want more quality materials and then but can't dive into expensive customs. And you have the customs for those who can afford them.

I'm probably a heretic, but I think the ZT Emerson collaborations are better than the Emerson factory knives. I'm probably going to get banned.

To use my original example, I think it'd be awesome if SOG did a ZT-level version of the Matsuda collaborations.
 
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I think if ZT did a version it would be $300+, but it would fit I a nice niche for you between the factory version and the custom version. Unfortunately your example is lost on a lot of people since the Kiku is not well known here, or at least I have not seen it mentioned much.

I would think the SOG version is priced as such because of the complexity of the grinds, and if you upgraded the steel, the price would increase proportionately..

But I think to answer your original question, if I understand it correctly, I would support a mid tech version of the Kiku....

And I think the Emerson/Kershaw/ZT is an excellent illustration of your point
 
Would love the Fallkniven Northern Lights series to be made by someone like Ka-Bar, Cold Steel or Condor for 1/2 or 1/3 the Fallkniven price or less. Even if the steel was a less expensive carbon steel standby like 1095 that would be great.
 
I'd like to see larger 4"+ Emerson zt collabs but I don't see it happening any time soon. You can always improvise an opening devise in place of a thumb stud though.
 
Sosa said:
I'd like to see larger 4"+ Emerson zt collabs but I don't see it happening any time soon. You can always improvise an opening devise in place of a thumb stud though.
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Same here. I would buy that. Cold Steel offers knives that fit the bill... with a better locking mechanism... and sometimes, better steel.
 
Yes, cold steel has really stepped it up. I used to be hard headed and only considered USA or Japan knives. I was only depriving myself haha.
 
madcap_magician said:
I'm probably a heretic, but I think the ZT Emerson collaborations are better than the Emerson factory knives. I'm probably going to get banned.
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Most definitely. I discovered Emerson last year and bought about a dozen of their knives. Then I discovered ZT. Emersons are flying out of my collection and being replaced by ZTs. Same price point, same or better materials, excellent fit/finish. It's really no contest. All of my ZTs bring me great satisfaction. I was never completely satisfied with any Emerson.

These aren't all the Emersons I've had but close to it. I think it's a good sampling.

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tholiver said:
Would love the Fallkniven Northern Lights series to be made by someone like Ka-Bar, Cold Steel or Condor for 1/2 or 1/3 the Fallkniven price or less. Even if the steel was a less expensive carbon steel standby like 1095 that would be great.
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That's a good example. Not too many people making super-high-quality traditional stacked-leather handles these days. The Northern Lights knives are fabulous, but the Swedish build and the materials do add a premium. Would be awesome if a resurrected Marbles or Camillus were to take it on. Or like you said, Ka-Bar could do it.
 
VanDammet said:
I had to comment on this - I just could not agree any more with what you've said above. And I'll preface this with the gratuitous "no offense", but I just don't get CS & why the company has the great following it does...I want to like their stuff, but I largely don't, I think it's mostly the handle materials they choose to use, but it's also little stuff like "3-V".
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Good knives at very competitive prices. Heck, no one else is even in the ballpark of their price points on the "3-V" blades. :D
 
madcap_magician said:
That's a good example. Not too many people making super-high-quality traditional stacked-leather handles these days. The Northern Lights knives are fabulous, but the Swedish build and the materials do add a premium.
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Are you sure Swedes are building them? Fallkniven are made in Japan.
 
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