You might want to read this.

Its a handy paring knife , that comes with a sheath .

Wiltshire make a better blade in their cheapo WoolWorths line of cutlery , but no sheath .
 
Yeah, wanted to put this up over that last debate we had on it, seems like some liked it more then, I atleast expected.

Surpirsing none the less.
 
My CS CBK is in my frontline rotation this year. It'll be used in place of my various Moras or Master Hunter on camping trips this year. I'll post reports as the season progresses.
 
For 10 bucks or so, I'd give it a try (Even though I'm disliking CS more and more lately)
 
tknife said:
For 10 bucks or so, I'd give it a try (Even though I'm disliking CS more and more lately)
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I'd agree. CS has started to leave a bad taste in my mouth, but I haven't yet tried this design and want to 'test drive' it before throwing down $75 on the #4. (I realize the CS is a #1 copy).

If I do give it a try, I'll post a review, too.
 
SpookyPistolero said:
I'd agree. CS has started to leave a bad taste in my mouth, but I haven't yet tried this design and want to 'test drive' it before throwing down $75 on the #4. (I realize the CS is a #1 copy).

If I do give it a try, I'll post a review, too.
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Please do, I wanna see some more reviews on this knife, I hate to say if they did copy it well, It may make its way up on the good list of some.
 
I spent a few minutes this afternoon trying to learn more about the Krupps (sp?) steel that they use in these things. The overall impressions that I got weren't too great, anyone know if the steel is even worth $10?

I'm not really hoping for 01 or anything, but if it won't hold an edge better than some cheap-o 'made in china-surgical stainless' knife, than I'd rather save the money towards another Mora or a Grohmann kit...
 
SpookyPistolero said:
I spent a few minutes this afternoon trying to learn more about the Krupps (sp?) steel that they use in these things. The overall impressions that I got weren't too great, anyone know if the steel is even worth $10?

I'm not really hoping for 01 or anything, but if it won't hold an edge better than some cheap-o 'made in china-surgical stainless' knife, than I'd rather save the money towards another Mora or a Grohmann kit...
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well, thats just it, I know im never going to buy it. But as for the made in china, I dont know, but it may be. The stainless steel from grohmann is a great quaility, Id would easily say on par with 440C, I like it better. Plus your getting a knife with some soul in it, and the price is worth it.
 
I've picked up one of those, the Roach Belley, and the Finn Bear. Not bad for the price.
 
Bleh, I just did many more searches about the Grohmann, and am not overwhelmed with the quality people have reported. There are just too many stories about the softness of the stainless used. Maybe some day when I'm rich I'll buy a #4 in carbon, but till then I'll stick to my carbon moras and be happy.
 
SpookyPistolero said:
Bleh, I just did many more searches about the Grohmann, and am not overwhelmed with the quality people have reported. There are just too many stories about the softness of the stainless used. Maybe some day when I'm rich I'll buy a #4 in carbon, but till then I'll stick to my carbon moras and be happy.
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:( , you'll have to point that out, I have never, and I mean never had a problem.

If you can find them, please do, it would be interesting to read.
 
That's pleasant to hear. I'll have to sleep on getting the kit. My searches were non-forum articles, but I'll try to find them.
 
SpookyPistolero said:
That's pleasant to hear. I'll have to sleep on getting the kit. My searches were non-forum articles, but I'll try to find them.
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ok, I to remember hearing about some type of problem on oldjimbo's site, heres a direct link.

http://www.oldjimbo.com/survival/grohmann.html

Edit: I found it so you dont have to read the hole review (though its a good read :D)
He said, it didnt hold up to well to scraping, but whittling on hardwoods it held a good edge, and sharpend eaisly.


AND I QOUTE:

"The standard comment about these knives is that just about everyone likes the concept. Exceptions are notable, which is quite rare with knives. Then of course comes the comment that the steel in them is pretty soft and useless. It's usually classified as 440A, which is a great steel for corrosion resistance, and is still used for diving knives - but is hard to sharpen for the amount of edge holding you get. Other people say it's a German steel called 4110, with o.5-0.7% carbon. I'd think that it must be the latter, since I was quite shocked at how well a properly set up edge sliced, push cut on hard wood and lasted. Much ado about steels is just that of course: everything lies in the heat treatment of which details are usually lacking.

Probably most of the negatives I've heard were from army people who were issued these blades in bigger sizes and just had a small stone to work the edge. You'd be forever getting back behind the factory edge and so it's not surprising to hear the comments. With a fair amount of sharpening on a large abrasive, the comments might be different.

It's well worth doing a major amount of work right from the beginning!"
 
One possible reason why people report differing experience on the too soft/not too soft issue is variation in heat-treatment.
 
Thomas Linton said:
One possible reason why people report differing experience on the too soft/not too soft issue is variation in heat-treatment.
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Thomas has a good point. CS doesn't make/produce any of their knives. They are a marketing firm that sells knives made by other companies. I would guess, heat treat among other services are left up to the lowest bidder.

Variation of heat treat is highly possible.
 
tarmix101 said:
Thomas has a good point. CS doesn't make/produce any of their knives. They are a marketing firm that sells knives made by other companies. I would guess, heat treat among other services are left up to the lowest bidder.

Variation of heat treat is highly possible.
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Are we not talking about Grohmann? Thats the impression I got from SP, he thought the steel was to soft on the grohmann knives.
 
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