Your opinion on batoning?

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I'm still a bit new to this forum so I wasn't really sure where to post this or if there's a million other threads out there. I apologize if I'm being redundant.

What's your opinion on batoning? +

I'm a bit new to bushcraft as well, recently taking more of an interest in it, but I think batoning does serve a purpose. To make kindling. Small pencil sized and thumb sized tinder that will take a flame from your primary tinder. I'm not talking about batoning through leg sized logs, but small forearm sized logs to get to the very dry wood that will take and hold a flame when you're first starting a fire. After the fire is going I know you can just chuck any old log onto the fire and you don't have to worry much about splitting it.

I baton at home, but only to make kindling. For anything larger I set up the log on my chopping block and split it with my maul.

I find wielding anything larger than my kabar on a forearm sized piece of wood to be a bit awkward, and dangerous. I like how I can safely set the knife on the wood, precisely where I want it to split, and with 2 or 3 good whacks, the wood will split. Sometimes I do split larger logs with a knife but not for a purpose, I just like to see if my knife can stand up to it, and it can. (Not recommending doing that, but once in a while it's fun to test my knives)

At home, batoning is needed less, because you have the right tools for the job only a few feet away in the garage, but I see the real value of batoning out in the wilderness, where you're likely carrying a pack, and you're looking to keep that pack light. Sure, you could haul in an axe, a saw and a maul, but why do that when you could carry a sturdy knife (think becker bk7 and the like).

Sure a hatchet may split the difference, but I find it hard to split wood with a hatchet. I may be doing something wrong but I can only get the hatchet to bite an inch into the wood, and it won't split. I'm not really sure how one would split wood with a hatchet. If someone could enlighten me that would be appreciated.

Looking forward to hearing your opinions
 
Batoning is fine, the hatchet takes more skill but is faster, and more efficient.

Without the skill, its a horrible accident waiting to happen.
 
Batoning has its place in bushcraft.

Many don't want or can't pack an axe, maul, saw on a camping trip, especially one involving a long hike.

And you when do you practice such skills and techniques if not at home?

And it's more than just 'the right tool for the right job'. For many, it's just 'because I can'.

If you want to do it, have at it. If you don't, that's okay too.
 
I built a knife last week that I would recommend people baton with!

[video=youtube;ZGGH99CytV8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGGH99CytV8[/video]
 
I built a knife last week that I would recommend people baton with!

[video=youtube;ZGGH99CytV8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGGH99CytV8[/video]

NICE KNIFE! Though it always makes me cringe when I see people shaving with knives :eek: with my luck i'd probably filet myself
 
NICE KNIFE! Though it always makes me cringe when I see people shaving with knives :eek: with my luck i'd probably filet myself

[video=youtube;oQXx4e_x1eM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQXx4e_x1eM[/video]
 
If you have what you think is a heavy duty camp knife and it fails batoning for any reason, then it is a POS. Period. If you have a knife designed for delicate work made of a delicate steel like S30V, then don't use it to baton with. Batoning is always your last option. Often you can get kindling without ever using a hatchet or knife, as there is always plenty of branches and twigs and dead fall. The time when batoning is necessary is when you are in a very wet environment and you need dry wood.
 
I'm still a bit new to this forum so I wasn't really sure where to post this or if there's a million other threads out there. ...

What's your opinion on batoning?

There are. My opinion on it is do it if you like, don't if you don't. Batonning works. An axe works.
 
A 3/4 size Hudson's Bay ax is not much heavier than a hatchet, but a lot safer -- my first choice for bushcraft if I had only one cutting tool to take in the outback. Second would be my original Blackjack Campanion, 1/4" 1095, tough as they come.
 
It's a tool in the toolbox - useful to know how to properly do if the situation arises.

Lately though it seems to have become the benchmark by which a knife for woods use is judged.
 
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