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your survival do all rifle

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what is your pick for a survival live of the land do it all rifle (none assault rifle). pics if you got them.
 
My first pick would be a 221 fireball. Home made rifle - ammo is light you can carry many cartridges and with the right loads very deadly on any North American game. My second choice would be a 22 Hornet single shot. A good friend, now deceased, fed his family of 6 through the depression with one, a Win Low Wall, shortened stock and barrel. With it he harvested antelope, deer, elk and one bear. Needless to say he was no tenderfoot.
 
I like the Sauer 202 Takedown as the rifle dismantled can be carried easier in a Bergan and you can have two rifles for much less weight if you have two barrels and a seperate bolt for a second calibre.

Here is mine in 6.5 x 55 Swedish Mauser and .375 H&H...

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Here is one with the rifle assembled for the 6.5 x 55...

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With those two calibres I can cover all bases.
 
A flintlock muzzleloader in at least .50 caliber might do the trick.

In a modern cartridge gun, I might pick an H&R single shot in .223. Overkill for rabbits and such, but it will kill most things, and be easy on weight and cost, both for the rifle and the ammunition.

A Lee-Enfield would do as well, especially a US 1917 chambered in .30-'06 for ammunition availability, as would many other surplus military weapons, such as a Mosin Nagant with a couple of cases of ammunition laid in for very little money compared to other centerfire rifles.

There are any number of people who will pick the 12 or 20 gauge shotgun for its versatility and terminal effectiveness. The ammunition weighs a lot per round, but anything you hit is usually done, if you used the right load and can shoot. I can see that, and in fact, for hunting, my shotgun is my most used gun, simply because bird seasons last so long around here compared to anything I normally hunt with a muzzleloading or centerfire rifle. An H&R single shot, a Remington pump, or many others are long-lived enough here.

Probably an equal number will pick the .22 LR for its weight, accuracy, and cost advantages in feeding, not to mention quiet harvesting of game. I can see that argument as well, but it lacks something in its effect on bigger animals. Survival means, yeah, you might have to do something to kill a deer that you wouldn't normally do, so you can eat, but it's been done before, and will kill them -- brain shot, especially. But it has limitations on range, and terminal effect on things intent on hurting you back, so ... it's a judgement call for your area and the needs you might face there. Ruger 10/22, Marlin 60, or a bolt action, or ... basically, pick your favorite and put it to work.

I might pick my AR15, in spite of your "no assault rifles" rule. Survival can mean more than hunting, and a similar rifle helped me survive for a year when it was my best friend. If you've slept with a rifle in a combat zone, you might have similar feelings about that weapon.
 
Personally I like my AR15 :) But in keeping with the non assault types, I would go with my Ruger Frontier rifle in 243. Easy to carry and a nice versitile gun and caliber. Smacks large game similar to a 308 under 300yards and shoots nice a flat for smaller sized game out way past 300.
 
If I had to pick from what's on hand and my current ammo (non-tactical)...probably my Mosin-Nagant.
 
My first pick would be my 22hornet.. I've taken small game as well as deer size game with it.. I'm not sure if I'd try taking a bear with it, but have heard of it doing so with proper shot placement..

After that, it'd be a hard choice to make, as I love my 22 rimfire as well as my 44 mag lever action, 12 ga coachgun, and my airguns.
 
im surprised no ones picked an over under combo like the savage 24. i would try to find a 12ga/22 hornet you could take any game in the lower 48.
 
Not sure just what cartridge I would choose, but I would probably lean toward a falling block action, like the Ruger No.1, or maybe a rolling block like the old remingtons. few parts to fail, and lightweight.
 
yoz's friend said:
im surprised no ones picked an over under combo like the savage 24. i would try to find a 12ga/22 hornet you could take any game in the lower 48.
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I would take the 20 ga/22LR combo over the 12/22 hornet. 20 ga can do a lot, and the ammo is lighter. And the 22LR gives up some power to the hornet, but makes up for it in availability (if that's a consideration for you, in a SHTF situation perhaps).
Oh yeah, almost forgot: my selection would be my Mossy 500, with my Lee Enfield coming in a close second (I love that gun!)
 
Out of my current colection, my Rossi Matched pair 22lr/20g

at least until I can add an over under savage or M7 to my collection.

2nd choice would be a lever action .357. Paired with a good revolver you can do alot with this gun.
 
In my neck of the woods a 22lr would make the most since so I am going to say my Remington 597. It would take down pretty much anything here in South Dakota. Especially when you stick it with a 30 rd clip. LOL
 
Not a rifle, but it thinks it is. My Taurus .454 Casull. Since this photo was taken I have added a Leupold 2x scope and am consistently in the ten ring at 100 yards. With a 300 gr bullet I can defend myself against all kinds of critters and have enough good meat left over to eat good for a while. :thumbup:

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I have so many fine rifles and there are just too many roles based on the country I am in. Alltime favorite packing rifle is my Ruger M77 Target Grey Frontier in .243. Weighs about 7 pounds with the scope, 16 inch stainless barrel, durable Mauser-based stainless action, very well balanced and easy to control. Accurate out to about 500 yards with the short barrel and the scout scope is great for reflexive shooting. And PS the no assault rifles thing is BS, because my FAL would make an awesome self defense/hunting rifle/allaround multipurpose rifle as it is just bombproof.
 
If I'm allowed a pistol (something in the .22LR variety), then I would really consider my Savage Scout in .308 with Burris Scout scope; not sure if my M1A Bush is considered an "assault rifle", but it would be my do-all rifle choice if allowed:

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On a smaller scale, I really think my M6 Scout in .22LR and .410 would be ideal for the back country taking most game and fowl as long as predatory threats were minimal:

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I would definitely want a self-defense pistol if I only had the M6 Scout with any significant predators in the area...either Ruger GP100 in .357 or my Redhawk in .44 Mag.

It also really depends on your are and terrain...BTW, that's a beautiful set up Peter!

ROCK6
 
Savage 24C 22/20 22 rifle and a shotgun. Or my Northwest Trade gun, flintlock smoothbore. Round ball or shot or both at the same time.
 
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