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I get a little confused talking carbides sometimes. Maybe you can help? Let's take CFV for example. With excess carbon and plenty vanadium, the steel form vanadium carbides. But isn't it true that the carbides are already "made" when the steel is "made"? What I mean is that when you receive your bar of steel, the vanadium carbides exist in that matrix already, being formed when the steel is smelted and rolled out or whatever. When we heat the steel up to our hardening temperature, say 1500F, are we "robbing" some of the carbon that exists in the carbide, and putting it into the surrounding martensite matrix? In other words, the lower the hardening temperature, the more carbides are left to do their job. The higher the hardening temperature, we take away some of the carbon in the carbide. Hope that makes sense. Probably TOTALLY wrong, I get confused sometimes! Any thoughts there?