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Happy birthday my friend.
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Just some personal hunches about diet- I think there is something to be said for the Atkins diet, but I kind of favor the paleolithic diet a little more. I am by no means a nutrition expert, but I worry a little about the effect of the Atkins diet on the internal organs over a long period of time.
Didn't Dr.Atkins have a heart attack at some point within the last 1-2 years?
But anyway- it's your birthday, have a big steak or two
What I have found works for me is no processed food like white flour or sugar, real whole grains in moderation seem OK, no heavy starches like potatoes. I believe that glycemic levels have a significant role too. I try to eat vegies (and fruit) that have low-moderate glycemic level.
Didn't Dr.Atkins have a heart attack at some point within the last 1-2 years?
But anyway- it's your birthday, have a big steak or two
What I have found works for me is no processed food like white flour or sugar, real whole grains in moderation seem OK, no heavy starches like potatoes. I believe that glycemic levels have a significant role too. I try to eat vegies (and fruit) that have low-moderate glycemic level.
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I agree with the quietone's advice. Being able to sit at the tv and eat butter just seems like a poor way to lose weight.
It's not only the weight but the stuff oozing around your arteries that counts too.
I'm not a nutritionist and I might be malnourished. So check out both sides of the argument before proceeding too far.
But I guess everyone is entitled to their stick of birthday butter.
It's not only the weight but the stuff oozing around your arteries that counts too.
I'm not a nutritionist and I might be malnourished. So check out both sides of the argument before proceeding too far.
But I guess everyone is entitled to their stick of birthday butter.
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Happy Birthday, Yvsa.
I made the same dietary choice a few years ago and have not looked back.
Don't neglect the psyllium. It's important at the early stage.
I made the same dietary choice a few years ago and have not looked back.
Don't neglect the psyllium. It's important at the early stage.
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Hey, Yvsa, watch out for those popular diets! All of them seem to get discredited eventually. A balanced diet, high in grains (especially whole grains), lots of fruit and vegetables (at least 5 servings per day), not too much meat, is the best advice I've heard. No tobacco (sorry Uncle Bill). Do I believe this? Yes. Do I follow it? I try. Do I trust a diet that someone is making money from? NFW.
My 1.75 cents.
Just stay healthy.
Joe
My 1.75 cents.
Just stay healthy.
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Yes, but be damn careful not to overdo the Pysllium!! My wife overdid it and almost blew her plumbing out
A better way to go and one that works for me (I'm on ATkins too) is ground flax seeds. They taste really good too--kind of nutty. Great on salads and steamed veggies. They're even good mixed up in water.
Ground flax also has lots of good nutrients in it.
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Aardvark this is the kind of diet the docs put me on and that I keep getting fatter on. The Atkins diet has been around for about 20 years and has proven itself many times over. It's very close to the Paleo or Cave Man's Diet.
The fact that I've already lost 4 pounds speaks volumns to me.
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Thanks to all for the excellent advice!!!! Funny thing is that since I've started the Atkins the bowel problems I used to have has pretty much ceased. I've even had to drop the amount of softeners and herbal laxitive I take.
They're easier on my system than the metamucil and came highly recommended by an alternative medicine doc.
It's kind of surprising to me but I like it. The meds I take have had me on the laxitives for quite some time. Metamucil just makes thing worse since I'm supposed to be on a water restriction. There's not enough liquid to let the metamucil work as it's supposed to.
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Dayumed mouse button!!!!
Oh well here goes again...
HAPPY BIRTHDAY YVSA!!!
Cool. I finally got to quote on something with the word 'bowel' in it! Been waiting for that for a long time...
But all kidding aside, could you be slightly wheat-intolerant? Lots of people are intolerant to wheat, eggs or milk. Weight gain can be a reaction to it. That sudden tired feeling after a wheaty meal is because wheat contains 8 kinds of opioids. Opioids make you sleepy by causing your brain to swell very slightly. This is a kind of allergic reaction.
I gave up wheat, cow and chicken for a while a couple of years ago and dropped 20 pounds in three months. Getting back to the quote above: I also noticed that the problems I was having with my guts disappeared too. During that time I had other unrefined grains and ate a whole lot of sushi (rice and fish), so Dr. Atkins probably would not approve. For some reason I gave up that way of eating and now the heartburn and gut-rot are back again. For me, I suspect that it is the wheat. I am going to go wheat-free again and see what happens...
The problem with carbs as we eat them is that most are refined. All the parts that would slow down their digestion are removed along with the nutrients they used to carry. 'Enriched white flour' has to be re-infused with nutrients because all of them were bleached out, leaving only simple, sugary carbs behind.
You get hungry right after a meal of pasta or rice because your body converted all the refined stuff to blood sugar and then your pancreas declared a state of emergency, stuffing all the blood sugar away as fat with gobs of insulin. All of a sudden no more blood sugar and your body signals hunger again. So you have a bag of chips. Same thing happens: you're a pound heavier and still hungry. After years of this BS, our pancreas eventually pack it in and we wind up diabetic.
Better to limit carbs to a few non-wheat whole grains (and beans?) every day, and not necessarily at every sitting. Fish is good. Chicken and beef are loaded with antibiotics and hormones they didn't have 50 years ago, so I eat less of them. Carrots and lettuce are boring. I ain't a freakin rabbit. Lotsa beans/veggies of every different kind are good and fun.
To conclude, on December 17th, 2002, I weighed 208 lbs. Six weeks later I was 201. How? I have lost about one pound per week by keeping refined bread and pasta to a minimum. I hardly eat that crap anymore. I eat whole grains when I can, but I haven't avoided wheat. I think weight loss would go faster if I did though.
Hope this helps,
Phil
Oh well here goes again... HAPPY BIRTHDAY YVSA!!!
Cool. I finally got to quote on something with the word 'bowel' in it! Been waiting for that for a long time...
But all kidding aside, could you be slightly wheat-intolerant? Lots of people are intolerant to wheat, eggs or milk. Weight gain can be a reaction to it. That sudden tired feeling after a wheaty meal is because wheat contains 8 kinds of opioids. Opioids make you sleepy by causing your brain to swell very slightly. This is a kind of allergic reaction.
I gave up wheat, cow and chicken for a while a couple of years ago and dropped 20 pounds in three months. Getting back to the quote above: I also noticed that the problems I was having with my guts disappeared too. During that time I had other unrefined grains and ate a whole lot of sushi (rice and fish), so Dr. Atkins probably would not approve. For some reason I gave up that way of eating and now the heartburn and gut-rot are back again. For me, I suspect that it is the wheat. I am going to go wheat-free again and see what happens...
The problem with carbs as we eat them is that most are refined. All the parts that would slow down their digestion are removed along with the nutrients they used to carry. 'Enriched white flour' has to be re-infused with nutrients because all of them were bleached out, leaving only simple, sugary carbs behind.
You get hungry right after a meal of pasta or rice because your body converted all the refined stuff to blood sugar and then your pancreas declared a state of emergency, stuffing all the blood sugar away as fat with gobs of insulin. All of a sudden no more blood sugar and your body signals hunger again. So you have a bag of chips. Same thing happens: you're a pound heavier and still hungry. After years of this BS, our pancreas eventually pack it in and we wind up diabetic.
Better to limit carbs to a few non-wheat whole grains (and beans?) every day, and not necessarily at every sitting. Fish is good. Chicken and beef are loaded with antibiotics and hormones they didn't have 50 years ago, so I eat less of them. Carrots and lettuce are boring. I ain't a freakin rabbit. Lotsa beans/veggies of every different kind are good and fun.
To conclude, on December 17th, 2002, I weighed 208 lbs. Six weeks later I was 201. How? I have lost about one pound per week by keeping refined bread and pasta to a minimum. I hardly eat that crap anymore. I eat whole grains when I can, but I haven't avoided wheat. I think weight loss would go faster if I did though.
Hope this helps,
Phil
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I agreed that indeed I would pray.
I prayed and I prayed to exhaustion,
But I ain't saying which way I prayed.
Chorus:
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I prayed and I prayed for mine enemy,
But I ain't saying which way I prayed.
( to the tune of Acres of Clams )
They said I should pray for mine enemy,
I agreed that indeed I would pray.
I prayed and I prayed to exhaustion,
But I ain't saying which way I prayed.
Chorus:
No I ain't saying which way I prayed,
No I ain't saying which way I prayed.
I prayed and I prayed for mine enemy,
But I ain't saying which way I prayed.
