Yuppies are getting on the survivalist bandwagon

Esav Benyamin said:
II spend time outdoors, in the woods and fields and hills, not because I want the skills to survive the End Of The World As We Know It. I do it because I enjoy being in a natural environment, which is part of all of our genetic inheritance. I have whistled at birds, chattered at squirrels, whined at dogs, and purred at cats, and had them look at me in surprise that a stupid human actually took the trouble to learn a few words of their language.

I am afraid too many people here overstate their survivalist credentials to convince themselves of their invincibility or convince us of their good old boy character. I think this preening gets overdone.
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I agree with this about 3000%. I have always thought it funny that if you take a forum and label it SURVIVAL and take another and label it HIKING, CAMPING,NATURE. That almost always the SURVIVAL one will get more posts.

I personally just like nature. I do like to know stuff like useful plants, first aid, navigation, some minor bushcrafting skills and things like that because they are things I could actually use while I am backpacking or hiking. I guess I'd be striving more toward "minimalist camping" than survival.
 
I'm still wondering what is wrong with screaming, "DIE YUPPIE DIE"? But if they have a few cases of food I can scavenge from them, even the better.
 
“I’m not a gun-nut, camo-wearing skinhead. I don’t even hunt or fish,” said Bill Marcom, 53, a construction executive in Dallas.
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I resent that...I never wear camo.

I do think it's interesting how popular survivalism seems to have gotten over the last few years. I am not sure what this means...is it simply a reflection of the changing demographics of our society? Is it the byproduct of an environmental movement that has been warning us about coming collapse? Is it related to the upsurge in "survival-horror" entertainment like the Dawn of the Dead remake and Resident Evil video games? Who knows?

But anybody that wants to gear up is probably somebody I'd get along with pretty well, as long as they are prepared to buy a bunch of guns, and shave their head.
 
This reminds me of a time when Donovan and myself went to Walmart for some batteries. It was right before some big "crisis" We were in line behind some lady with a cart full of water, bread, canned food, etc. She looked back at us and she said, "Shouldn't you guys be stocking up. You're sure gunna be out of luck when you're going thirsty and hungry, bla bla bla." She was being a real b@#$% about it and talking real snotty. Donovan looked her in the eyes and said, "We don't need to stock up on anything." She asked, "Why not." He said, "Because people like you already did it for us. We have guns. We're just going to kill you and eat your food. No need to stock up on our own." The lady almost sh@t. It was wonderful.
 
Stocking up will only last so long. Eventually you will run out of supplies or someone will take them from you.

In a serious SHTF situation you not only need to be able to provide for yourself, you need to be able to defend it.

If some crazy economic/food/fuel crisis overwhelms us all the rules will go out the window.

It will be a cold day in hell before some dude from the city with a 9mm gets his hands on what I have worked and prepared for.
 
Dylside said:
This reminds me of a time when Donovan and myself went to Walmart for some batteries. It was right before some big "crisis" We were in line behind some lady with a cart full of water, bread, canned food, etc. She looked back at us and she said, "Shouldn't you guys be stocking up. You're sure gunna be out of luck when you're going thirsty and hungry, bla bla bla." She was being a real b@#$% about it and talking real snotty. Donovan looked her in the eyes and said, "We don't need to stock up on anything." She asked, "Why not." He said, "Because people like you already did it for us. We have guns. We're just going to kill you and eat your food. No need to stock up on our own." The lady almost sh@t. It was wonderful.
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Thats really cute - but it probably won't work that way. You're problem is that you are banking on anarchy being the rule. This may work for a short period of time, but won't likely work over the longer haul. Society usually ends up installing a martial system, and it is one of the first things it sets up once it re-organizes itself.

I'm sorry but the idea that your survival plan is to rob other people demonstrates a pretty immature attitude towards this whole topic. I don't have a problem with guns if they are used for hunting or even personal security is necessary. However, making statements like the above makes survivalists deserve the skin-head, redneck label they often get.
 
That's why we should be encouraging them all to buy 9mm handguns...so we can pick them off at .308 range when they come for our stuff!

I'm kidding, of course. I'm waiting for buckshot range for maximum "splatter" effect.
 
CWL said:
I find it greatly amusing that the OP lives in Cherry Hill, New Jersey, reads the "Fashion & Style" column of the New York Times and calls other people Yuppies?
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Hey, guys, take it easy. BT may have misspoken -- don't jump on him yet. He's a good guy and works hard and is NOT even CLOSE to yuppie-ism. :D

Now, me? I'm probably more of a Yuppie now than anyone here.
 
nemoaz said:
I'm still wondering what is wrong with screaming, "DIE YUPPIE DIE"? But if they have a few cases of food I can scavenge from them, even the better.
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Because it's naive. Yuppie stands for Young Urban Professional.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuppie
From Wikipedia "characterized as self-reliant, financially secure individualists."
Sounds pretty good to me.

That would qualify a lot of people including me.
You can scream it all you want, that's what makes America great.
But it doesn't make you look too good.
 
nemoaz said:
I'm still wondering what is wrong with screaming, "DIE YUPPIE DIE"? But if they have a few cases of food I can scavenge from them, even the better.
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"Yuppie" = Young Urban Professional OR Young Upwardly-Mobile Professional.

Hmmm. Dad was an auto mechanic. Grandpa was a millwright. I went to college and got a degree and made my living as a "professional." On the other paw, we live in the xurbs and I'm hardly young. :o

That makes me an Old Upwardly Mobile Professional - an Ouppy? Is that a sortta' subset of Yuppie?

If that puts me and mine in the target group, the answer is, better shoot before you start celebrating. Otherwise, if I'm hungry, we may have to try roast looter. :D

Or boiled. :thumbup:
 
When the Y2k stuff came out my Aunt was totally into it.

Luckily she bought all this freeze dried food and canned grains.

When nothing happened I used the freeze dried food while backpacking and the grains I fed to the goats and chickens:thumbup:
 
hollowdweller said:
I agree with this about 3000%. I have always thought it funny that if you take a forum and label it SURVIVAL and take another and label it HIKING, CAMPING,NATURE. That almost always the SURVIVAL one will get more posts.

I personally just like nature. I do like to know stuff like useful plants, first aid, navigation, some minor bushcrafting skills and things like that because they are things I could actually use while I am backpacking or hiking. I guess I'd be striving more toward "minimalist camping" than survival.
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+1 HD. I just love being close to the outdoors and living as often as possible without the crutches, because they interfere with that intimacy.

It's like boaters: I prefer sailing to power boating, because using the wind brings me closer to the sea.
 
Hmmm...are you tacking a little too hard? I try to make sure the wind doesn't bring me THAT close to the sea.
 
There is some strange, almost xenophobic mindset going on here, i.e., that if you don't own an ATV, a big fixed blade and a Remington 870, you are a pretender and shouldn't be preparing.

As I see it, its a good thing for them and for the rest of us as well. The more the latte-drinking metrosexuals start to think about these things, the better.
 
kgd said:
Thats really cute - but it probably won't work that way. You're problem is that you are banking on anarchy being the rule. This may work for a short period of time, but won't likely work over the longer haul. Society usually ends up installing a martial system, and it is one of the first things it sets up once it re-organizes itself.

I'm sorry but the idea that your survival plan is to rob other people demonstrates a pretty immature attitude towards this whole topic. I don't have a problem with guns if they are used for hunting or even personal security is necessary. However, making statements like the above makes survivalists deserve the skin-head, redneck label they often get.
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kgd, I think Donovan and Dylside played a pretty good joke on the woman, and that's all it was. Heck, I tend to do those types of things to people with a snotty attitude. It was just designed to shake her off her superiority horse for a minute or two, and that's priceless...:D
 
powernoodle said:
There is some strange, almost xenophobic mindset going on here, i.e., that if you don't own an ATV, a big fixed blade and a Remington 870, you are a pretender and shouldn't be preparing.

As I see it, its a good thing for them and for the rest of us as well. The more the latte-drinking metrosexuals start to think about these things, the better.
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Besides, liberal chicks are loose and easy, and we'll want as many of THOSE to make us feel better in a SHTF situation as possible -- so help 'em live, I say! They secretly have the hots for us manly gun-totin' types. What they fear, they get turned on by...

If you're not a gun totin' manly type, just pretend, and your chances of getting laid will still increase...:thumbup:

;) :D
 
powernoodle said:
There is some strange, almost xenophobic mindset going on here, i.e., that if you don't own an ATV, a big fixed blade and a Remington 870, you are a pretender and shouldn't be preparing.

As I see it, its a good thing for them and for the rest of us as well. The more the latte-drinking metrosexuals start to think about these things, the better.
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That's true...I would guess that being a latte-drinking metrosexual is entirely optional; I don't think there is a "metro-gene." The average guy from the sticks isn't somehow inherently superior or more manly than urban guys, it's just the life tends to reinforce masculinity "out on the line" as we say here and reinforces femininity in the cities. Well, if you get city guys thinking about manly survival stuff, I believe they can turn into real men too. Why not? We're not talking about supermen here, we're talking about turning the average city guy into the average rural dweller...that's not some unattainably high degree of super-masculinity. Any average guy could do it if they had the right mindset.

So I say encourage the sissies to be less sissy, and that way we can go back to having cities where you could whistle openly at women, drink beer at lunch and when the zombies come, you and the guys from your bowling league can take them on without fear.
 
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