Yuppies are getting on the survivalist bandwagon

25% unemployment.

The best farm land in the U.S. turning into desert.

Extremists with monster followings on national media calling for the end of our Constitution.

War on three continents.

Looks like TEOTWAWKI any day now.

Oh, that's right. That was the 1930's.



Arguing with folks about matters of faith is fairly futile.
 
That article is CLASSIC The Culture of Fear reporting:
Esteemed economists debate whether the credit crisis could result in a complete meltdown of the financial system. A former vice president of the United States informs us that global warming could result in mass flooding, disease and starvation, perhaps even a new Ice Age.
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I am not esteemed
But
I say BS

Many of the new, nontraditional preparedness converts are “Peakniks,” Mr. Rawles said, referring to adherents of the “Peak Oil” theory. This concept holds that the world will soon, or has already, reached a peak in oil production, and that coming supply shortages might threaten society. While the theory is still disputed by many industry analysts and executives, it has inched toward the mainstream in the last two years, as oil prices have nearly doubled, surpassing $100 a barrel. The topic, which was the subject of a United States Department of Energy report in 2005, has attracted attention in publications like The New York Times Magazine and The Wall Street Journal, and was a primary focus of “Megadisasters: Oil Apocalypse,” a recent History Channel special.
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Maybe
Maybe not
http://www.hilltoplancers.org/stories/hirsch0502.pdf

Another book, “The Long Emergency” (Atlantic Monthly Press, 2005), by James Howard Kunstler, an author and journalist who writes about economic and environmental issues, argues that American suburbs and cities may soon lay desolate as people, starved of oil, are forced back to the land to adopt a hardscrabble, 19th-century-style agrarian life.
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Makes for good book sales
Desolate?

Yuppies into survivalism?
Of course..Why not??
They BUY The Long Emergency book, dvd's, Altoids tins on EBAY, Grandpa Ford hatchets, Garmin GPS's and regular black duffle bags marketed as "bug out bags" for 20 bucks more :eek:

Here are some words of wisdom on preparedness from MY Governor
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"While you’re whining, you should be creating new technologies. That’s how you meet the date."

 "We need more manpower, we need more aircraft. But we can't be whining about that, we can't be complaining."

"The conditions are tough but we have to be ready. We can't be whining about any of that. We can't be complaining about global warming."

"Move quickly, this is what we always say.Don't procrastinate, and don't worry about over-preparing or over-reacting."

Click here to listen to "Look Right Through The Smokes"
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Reminds me of a great bumper sticker I saw the other day.

STOP GLOBAL WHINING.
Grab a fly rod and have some fun.​
 
Originally Posted by powernoodle
There is some strange, almost xenophobic mindset going on here, i.e., that if you don't own an ATV, a big fixed blade and a Remington 870, you are a pretender and shouldn't be preparing.

As I see it, its a good thing for them and for the rest of us as well. The more the latte-drinking metrosexuals start to think about these things, the better.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Very True Statement!!!

Otherwise,as states in the earlier comments,I,m very surprised by all the Negative replies .
 
A former vice president of the United States informs us that global warming could result in mass flooding, disease and starvation, perhaps even a new Ice Age.
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Ha ha ha ha ha. People really believe that two-time grad school failure clown?

Pssst. We've been having global COOLING since 1998. STOP GLOBAL COOLING!!!!

But don't tell the envirokooks or they'll have to switch prophets. I like this one because he's so easy to laugh at. New kookspeak, for those who are smart enough to look at easily obtainable data, is climate change. That way, it's a global catastrophe if it rains, droughts, wind blows, hurricane, earthquake, latte shortages, warmer, cooler, wet, dry, whatever. CLIMATE CHANGE! Global warming is so 2004.

I have survived the Coming Ice Age which was going to kill me, deforestation of the rainforest which was going to kill me, water pollution which was going to kill me, the Acid Rain which was going to kill me, the Hole in the Ozone which was going to kill me, El Nino which was going to kill me, and countless other envirokook attempts at convincing me I was going to die soon at the hands of Mother Nature. I suspect I'll survive Global Warming or Climate Change as well.

More of the same: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080525/ap_on_re_us/environmental_survivalists_3
 
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There is some strange, almost xenophobic mindset going on here, i.e., that if you don't own an ATV, a big fixed blade and a Remington 870, you are a pretender and shouldn't be preparing..
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Holy crap, he broke out XENOPHOBIA. What's next multicultural training? I feel like I'm back at the U!

Wait a minute. I don't own an ATV, fixed blade, or 870. Maybe they are talking about me. (Let me see your war face.) Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Just when I was fearing the armed latte sucking hourdes, I learn I'm one of them. (But I don't drink lattes? No matter apparently.) Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Now I must fear the xenophobes who are going to kill me with an 870, then fillet me with a Rambo knife, then haul my nemosteaks back to their wilderness cabin on the back of their ATV.
 
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nemoaz said:
Holy crap, he broke out XENOPHOBIA. What's next multicultural training? I feel like I'm back at the U!

Wait a minute. I don't own an ATV, fixed blade, or 870. Maybe they are talking about me. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Just when I was fearing the armed latte sucking hourdes, I learn I'm one of them. (But I don't drink lattes? No matter apparently.) Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Now I must fear the xenophobes who are going to kill me with an 870, then fillet me with a Rambo knife, then haul my nemosteaks back to their wilderness cabin on the back of their ATV.
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Solution: Relax. Have a latte (decaf might be a good idea). Buy a fixed blade. Heck, buy a few.
 
Brian Jones said:
And Nemo,

Don't forget the ATV and 870! :D
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ANd as to the fixed blade, Nemo consider my own favorite, the Schrade 165OT Woodsman. As I have owned it and used it for well over thirty eight or so years and so far not failed to survive everything life has thrown at me (war, hurricanes, ex-wives, rugged outdoor use, idiotic decisions, five children and six grandchildren), what more proof do you need that this knife is the ultimate survival knife? And further in favor of owning one, no permissions are required like with Busse knife ownership!:D Isn't Busse a pantywaiste yuppie knife made from designer steel? Fifi?? :confused:



Codger:)
 
Personally, I think it's a good thing. I'm surprised anyone would have animosity towards others trying to prepare. Isn't that what most have been preaching all along?

As far as guns, you might be surprised at how many of them do own guns, but don't admit it in their "circle".

For those who don't. . .think of the logical progression: "We have this stuff to keep us alive. What if someone comes to take it (remember there's still the fear of being victimized)? Honey, maybe we should get a gun."

I personally know a LOT of formerly anti-gun people that own guns after Katrina. If anything, yuppies becoming prepared will encourage them further into the self-reliant mindset, to include being self-reliant for protection.

nemoaz said:
I have survived the Coming Ice Age which was going to kill me, deforestation of the rainforest which was going to kill me, water pollution which was going to kill me, the Acid Rain which was going to kill me, the Hole in the Ozone which was going to kill me, El Nino which was going to kill me, and countless other envirokook attempts at convincing me I was going to die soon at the hands of Mother Nature. I suspect I'll survive Global Warming or Climate Change as well.
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Well, according to them everything will kill us. The only thing they have right is that something is going to kill us, and it could be anything.
I almost wish one of these things would kill me so I don't have to listen to the drivel anymore.
Almost.
 
Codger_64 said:
ANd as to the fixed blade, Nemo consider my own favorite, the Schrade 165OT Woodsman. As I have owned it and used it for well over thirty eight or so years and so far not failed to survive everything life has thrown at me (war, hurricanes, ex-wives, rugged outdoor use, idiotic decisions, five children and six grandchildren), what more proof do you need that this knife is the ultimate survival knife? And further in favor of owning one, no permissions are required like with Busse knife ownership!:D Isn't Busse a pantywaiste yuppie knife made from designer steel? Fifi?? :confused: Codger:)
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You used a Schrade 1650T Woodsman on your ex-wives? Do you think this is an appropriate place to mention it? :confused:

As for the Busse comment, Codger, I'll catch you later. Right now I'm going to build a shelter. :(

Doc
 
Evrythings going to be fune, yuppies will be yuppies, let them prepare, theyll be like that till they realize nothing will happen.
 
No, the ex kept and yard-saled most of my things when we split. I kept our 4 year old daughter, so I guess I won. And the beach is still located in Florida and living large, divorced from her second husband now and living with another woman's husband.

I jest on the Busse subject. I am sure they are as well made and durable as owners claim. I just find the "fan-club" hype hilarious, as they probably find my own affection for all things Schrade. No real knocks intended. All in jest. oink. :D
 
RescueRiley said:
we should use our own modern survival skills and come up with yuppie lines of preparedness gear..
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Well, the initial products could be:

* A 870 with text messaging and GPS positioning device attached.

* hand tooled Gucci moccasins

* a reloading press that doubles as a expresso machine

* A total safe queen knife...just in case....insert maker>>>>here<<<<<

I do think that having some skills, like the ability to use a compass, or start a fire or the knowledge of how to tell and edible plant from a non edible one and how to catch and clean a fish are fine skills to have and appropriate for most environments.

I loved the family fallout shelter from the article, that would be the coolest thing, and could double as a man-cave...the Satellite dish may give it away, but even still...:D
 
misanthropist said:
My dad is a big peak oil guy and has been for a long time. I am a second-generation survivalist. Sometimes I wonder if he ever thinks about what it means, that he has been a survivalist since the 1960s and it's never mattered once. I think about that once in a while and that's why I take survivalism and my participation in it a lot less seriously than he does. Of course I have more gear than him!
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I've been a survivalist since the early 80's.
It saved my butt through several hurricanes.
It's cheap insurance.
 
fixer27 said:
Well, the initial products could be:

* A 870 with text messaging and GPS positioning device attached.

* hand tooled Gucci moccasins

* a reloading press that doubles as a expresso machine

* A total safe queen knife...just in case....insert maker>>>>here<<<<<

I do think that having some skills, like the ability to use a compass, or start a fire or the knowledge of how to tell and edible plant from a non edible one and how to catch and clean a fish are fine skills to have and appropriate for most environments.

I loved the family fallout shelter from the article, that would be the coolest thing, and could double as a man-cave...the Satellite dish may give it away, but even still...:D
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I'll take the 870 and the reloading Expresso machine in .338 Lapua.
 
Rupestris said:
I gotta disagree with the genepool comment (somewhat - but not completely). If people (regardless of economic status) are realizing that preparedness is not a joke, good for them.

To prove I'm not disagreeing with you 100%



I'm glad he's not a "skinhead" but the fact that he doesn't hunt or fish just may be his downfall. While I believe preparedness is a good thing, I, like most here, believe that if you don't practice the skills needed to survive, you simply won't.

I guess we'll see when the Have's are separated from the Have-Not's.

Chris
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one can be a skinhead without being rascist..... some people just choose to shave their heads....

just saying
 
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