Zac Brown

Makael said:
His opinions man, geez your quick to jump.
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Lol, I did sound a bit sassy. It was the two glasses of wine speaking through me.

In reality, I just did not understand what the point of this thread was. Read the original post, it reads like a statement. Just needed some direction is all.
 
Yonose said:
How is the wine?
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I've only had a couple of glasses so far so I couldn't really give a very critical review. I will say I thought the wine I was drinking before it (another sauvignon blanc; can't remember which one) tasted a little better, but then that one might have thrown my taste buds off a bit so not really a fair comparison.
 
SeppukuSamurai said:
That's something I didn't mention. I LOVE THE WAVE.

I seriously wish that more companies would pay homage to the man himself, Emerson, and utilize this ingenious feature on their knives.

I can immediately think of a dozen knives I would enjoy with a wave attached.
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I wish we saw this more as well, and that more companies would improve it. The original wave was not intended to serve that purpose, and honestly, Spyderco does it better, IMHO. Although I think that about a lot of Emerson knives. The best Emersons are made by other companies.
 
Like his music!!!

Like his knives!!!

Hope to own one some day!!! :cool: John
 
madcap_magician said:
I wish we saw this more as well, and that more companies would improve it. The original wave was not intended to serve that purpose, and honestly, Spyderco does it better, IMHO. Although I think that about a lot of Emerson knives. The best Emersons are made by other companies.
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Kind of breaks my heart a bit, but I have to agree with you.

The Iron Dragon is the only Emerson I have kept and the only one I have found to be acceptable in terms of fit/finish/materials. I hate liner locks and I have seen many Emersons with the lock damn near touching the wrong side. I also csnt stand the G10. While it provides excellent purchase it annihilates pockets. Always beautiful grinds and very sharp, though.

I loved my waved Endura and my ZTO620CF.
 
SeppukuSamurai said:
Kind of breaks my heart a bit, but I have to agree with you.

The Iron Dragon is the only Emerson I have kept and the only one I have found to be acceptable in terms of fit/finish/materials. I hate liner locks and I have seen many Emersons with the lock damn near touching the wrong side. I also csnt stand the G10. While it provides excellent purchase it annihilates pockets. Always beautiful grinds and very sharp, though.

I loved my waved Endura and my ZTO620CF.
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If Sal made a waved Delica/Endura set in M390 and G10 with a full flat grind, I'm not sure I'd need another folding knife, ever.
 
BeyondTheBox said:
Dig the look of some of his stuff, but wouldn't pay that price for any knife, ever. I'm not knocking his stuff, I wouldn't pay what CRK charges for their stuff either, etc. These niche knives are all overpriced tools to me. And no, handling one would not at all change my mind. There's nothing amazing or intricate about these. I always use guns as a comparison, or even watches, where the best materials do matter, because of so many moving parts and internal explosions being present. Nope these are knives - they must cut, do so well, have a design that lends to doing it, while not hurting the user when I'm use. Knives have done all this for centuries, nary an issue. Of course there's some margin of value in better handles and superior designs/materials, but nowhere near what they charge for these ridiculous things I'm seeing all over the place. $300-3000... Pffft

Nope, I'll stick with good quality bang 4 buck products that will do everything just as well as any other out there, of which it only has to do maybe once a week typically, to once a day at most.
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It’s cool that you’re good with budget blades. With the exception of diving and saltwater activities, I don’t really “need” a knife over $50.

What I get with pricier knives is a sense of personal satisfaction, and maybe an increased product lifespan.

A Glock is all the firearm I need, but I’d still really like to have a Bauer, Brown, Wilson, or Nighthawk.
A Honda is all the car I need, but I’d still like a Porsche or ‘69-72 Corvette.

Unfortunately, the Porsche and the Brown probably aren’t going to happen. Reaching right-front and finding a Spider Monkey, 0450, or Umnumzaan is within my means, and brings me some of that same joy.
 
This has gotten way off topic but I will chime in and try to get it back to topic.

First off I think the Southern Grind knives are pretty damn awesome. I am a big fan of the Spider Monkey and recently picked up the Copper Spider Monkey. Southern Grind knives are consistently the sharpest production knife out of the box that you will ever own. Fit and finish is great. As for the price? I think their prices are spot on for the quality, mid tech construction, and all made in the United States. If you still think the price is high then read the next paragraph and maybe you want be bothered by it.

Zac Brown is an incredibly generous and charitable person. He loves knives and wanted to make his own instead of just putting his name on a Kershaw or Gerber. He is personally very involved with Southern Grind Knives and all designs have to meet his approval before going in to production. Southern Grind Knives also is a non profit company. All profits from the company go to support Camp Southern Ground. Camp Southern Ground is a camp for all types of kids, but specializes in giving special needs kids a full camp experience. Zac is also a huge supporter of the Military and often gives Military families free stays at Camp Southern Ground. Zac is quick to help out his friends and complete strangers. I have met Zac personally a couple of times but would not say I know him. What I do know are several of his close friends. While it is not my place to share their stories, I can say if you heard them you would be hard pressed not to need to dry your eyes for a minute.

If you are looking for good music go to one of his concerts. If you are looking for good wine check out his wine. If you are looking for a good knife pick up a Southern Grind Knife. If you are looking to help a charitable cause and get something back then do all three.
 
This thread needs a picture of some sexy monkeys.
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whitty said:
This has gotten way off topic but I will chime in and try to get it back to topic.

First off I think the Southern Grind knives are pretty damn awesome. I am a big fan of the Spider Monkey and recently picked up the Copper Spider Monkey. Southern Grind knives are consistently the sharpest production knife out of the box that you will ever own. Fit and finish is great. As for the price? I think their prices are spot on for the quality, mid tech construction, and all made in the United States. If you still think the price is high then read the next paragraph and maybe you want be bothered by it.

Zac Brown is an incredibly generous and charitable person. He loves knives and wanted to make his own instead of just putting his name on a Kershaw or Gerber. He is personally very involved with Southern Grind Knives and all designs have to meet his approval before going in to production. Southern Grind Knives also is a non profit company. All profits from the company go to support Camp Southern Ground. Camp Southern Ground is a camp for all types of kids, but specializes in giving special needs kids a full camp experience. Zac is also a huge supporter of the Military and often gives Military families free stays at Camp Southern Ground. Zac is quick to help out his friends and complete strangers. I have met Zac personally a couple of times but would not say I know him. What I do know are several of his close friends. While it is not my place to share their stories, I can say if you heard them you would be hard pressed not to need to dry your eyes for a minute.

If you are looking for good music go to one of his concerts. If you are looking for good wine check out his wine. If you are looking for a good knife pick up a Southern Grind Knife. If you are looking to help a charitable cause and get something back then do all three.
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Thanks for the info! Tell him to make a bad monkey framelock with copper presentation side.
 
I have an unwaved green G10 bad monkey and I think that the fit and finish are great for a $250 blade. The 12c28n Sandvik stainless has really let me down when put to hard use though.

The bad monkey is a BIG folder that would make a great hard use blade BUT the steel used is not tough enough. I stuck it into clean spot on Sycamore tree for a picture and the edge rolled badly enough to require a reprofiling. It was a factory edge at the time. 12c28n gets EXTREMELY sharp, it’s a razor blade steel that is easier to sharpen than SuperBlue but it isn’t tough enough for a camping folder/weekend woods carry.

If he made a run in CPM154 or something just a littler tougher like the S35vn used for the spider monkey, I would buy two
 
Freedom Pullo said:
I have an unwaved green G10 bad monkey and I think that the fit and finish are great for a $250 blade. The 12c28n Sandvik stainless has really let me down when put to hard use though.

The bad monkey is a BIG folder that would make a great hard use blade BUT the steel used is not tough enough. I stuck it into clean spot on Sycamore tree for a picture and the edge rolled badly enough to require a reprofiling. It was a factory edge at the time. 12c28n gets EXTREMELY sharp, it’s a razor blade steel that is easier to sharpen than SuperBlue but it isn’t tough enough for a camping folder/weekend woods carry.

If he made a run in CPM154 or something just a littler tougher like the S35vn used for the spider monkey, I would buy two
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My Bad Monkey has 14c28n...upgrade?
I would suspect the added carbon makes it a bit more wear resistant and also adds hardness? I'm no steel expert here.
 
Freedom Pullo said:
It’s an error on my part, I could see myself thinking it was 12c instead of 14
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Ah, when I did a search there was another reference to 12c on the Bad Monkey so I thought it was an older standard, so someone else had the same mixup apparently.
I don't use folders in any way that could be considered overly hard use so 14c28n works really well for me in that it's easy to touch up after use.
I reprofiled it as well to make it even easier on a SharpMaker.
 
whitty said:
This has gotten way off topic but I will chime in and try to get it back to topic.

First off I think the Southern Grind knives are pretty damn awesome. I am a big fan of the Spider Monkey and recently picked up the Copper Spider Monkey. Southern Grind knives are consistently the sharpest production knife out of the box that you will ever own. Fit and finish is great. As for the price? I think their prices are spot on for the quality, mid tech construction, and all made in the United States. If you still think the price is high then read the next paragraph and maybe you want be bothered by it.

Zac Brown is an incredibly generous and charitable person. He loves knives and wanted to make his own instead of just putting his name on a Kershaw or Gerber. He is personally very involved with Southern Grind Knives and all designs have to meet his approval before going in to production. Southern Grind Knives also is a non profit company. All profits from the company go to support Camp Southern Ground. Camp Southern Ground is a camp for all types of kids, but specializes in giving special needs kids a full camp experience. Zac is also a huge supporter of the Military and often gives Military families free stays at Camp Southern Ground. Zac is quick to help out his friends and complete strangers. I have met Zac personally a couple of times but would not say I know him. What I do know are several of his close friends. While it is not my place to share their stories, I can say if you heard them you would be hard pressed not to need to dry your eyes for a minute.

If you are looking for good music go to one of his concerts. If you are looking for good wine check out his wine. If you are looking for a good knife pick up a Southern Grind Knife. If you are looking to help a charitable cause and get something back then do all three.
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Thanks for the info Whitty.

That really gives some perspective as to the kind of man Zac Brown really is.

I will reconsider my reluctance to purchase his knives. Tell him to make a Bad Monkey framelock. I'm in if he does.

;)
 
Wait a minute! The amount of people who dont know Zac Brown music!?!? Listen his blade are what they are, but his music will get you some good snuggling. For the love of whatever. Get some Zac Brown in your life.
Any lectures I dont want to hear it. I'm doing the public a massive service. I want my fellow Americans Knife lovers to get some Mclovin.
Mic.Drop
 
Barman1 said:
Ah, when I did a search there was another reference to 12c on the Bad Monkey so I thought it was an older standard, so someone else had the same mixup apparently.
I don't use folders in any way that could be considered overly hard use so 14c28n works really well for me in that it's easy to touch up after use.
I reprofiled it as well to make it even easier on a SharpMaker.
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I don’t really consider a folder a hard use blade either but I would like it to use it for some rougher chores when a fixed blade isn’t practical. Cutting zip ties, feathering fatwood to get a fire going or breaking down heavy cardboard. My work knife is a stripped and conveyed Game Warden but I can’t always carry a fixed blade.

I can’t say this about any other steel but the Sandvik stainless that Southern Grind uses isn’t tough enough for me to EDC. Even the Chinese stainless Kershaw/Emerson beater that I took on my last camping trip as a “loaner” held a better edge without rolling when I built a fire with it.
I have no complaints with the S35vn used on the Spider Monkey.

I thought this thread was in the manufacturers forum, not feedback.

Although I don’t think the steel used on the bad monkey is the bed knife steel for the large saber ground folder, these are really well made knives :thumbsup:
 
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