ZDP 189 Leek = huge disappointment

Nimravus Nut said:
Go with old tried and proven steels like 440C and VG10, you will have less problems and more $ in your pocket.
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Many companies are doing well with newer steels, you just need to do the necessary research and use them in the right knives. Of course the actual performance increase over the older steels is usually highly exaggerated and yes does come with significant drawbacks.

-Cliff
 
thomas was a straight up guy when the first zdp leeks had issues like sharpness and broken tips-

he even stated it was a learning experience for kershaw and zdp -

the mini cyclone zdp -says they learned quite well what to do and not to do-

ive had nothing that holds a edge as long as it,takes a edge easily also-and the tip is plenty strong-lol
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
The fact that you used a 440A blade to bore a hole successfully might be attributed to the softer steel being more flexible.
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Well, if it is softer, it will bend, plastically deform. You wont get 440A as hard as ZDF2000 but it is the inner structure of the steel, that determines its toughness.

As a user and knifenut i wouldn´t wait longer than a week to restore the edges of my edc otherwise it will become boring. There are many steel grades, which handle things like whittling plastic and stay sharp longer than a week without surprises. So i don´t see, why someone should invest more work and money to make such steel grades as ZDF 2000 ready for edc tasks by laminating them. Just buy a different steel. That would be much easier.
 
Thomas,

I have been using my recently-purchase ZDP-189/Ti Leek and it's been great. My question to you is if the date on the blade of Nov 06 is after Kershaw learned of their "woes" with ZDP-189 or before? Is there a better date to have and does the date determine the quality of the overall blade concerning production knowledge at that time?

Thanks for all your help...
Ryan
 
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