Zen and The Art of Knife Sharpening, or Freehand, or Systems , what's your poison?

Freehand or Sharpening System

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I've been sharpening knives since I was about 10, watched my grandfather and old man to learn, spent quite a few years ruining blades, than I met a Portugese Butcher at work who taught what sharp was.

I spent the next 10 years trying to master the same skill a 50 year old butcher made look easy.

I've bought and tried most sharpening systems under $250, but in the end I always go with the Zen like feeling I get from freehand, it seems to calm me and I always get scary results.

So while the systems collect dust,(except the EdgePro) I sharen free hand, how about you?
 
For touch-ups or when there´s no system available, I can do freehand, when at home when I can take my time, or for tough jobs like reprofiling, I use my own system of hone jigged at an angle, blade drawn horizontal.
 
Spyderco system works best for me...once I feel I have completely mastered it I may try free hand again.
 
I love my Sharpmaker. Whee! I, too, can sharpen knives! :)

I do sometimes strop on my bluejeans though.
 
System.

I started out freehand and always got acceptable (shaving sharp) results.

Then I tried a Sharpmaker and got even better results much faster. I love it. It's just so quick and convenient.

More recently I discovered the mousepad and sandpaper convex edge system. Based on my preliminary tests with my old Gerber Yari I am a convert, at least for my knives. I'll probably put convex edges on my Benchmade 806D2 and my Griptilian EDC soon. I'll probably still use the SharpMaker for the kitchen knives.
 
14yrs of freehand... learned when I was 5. quick lesson from my grandfather(he's thwe one who gave me the first knife, 5th bday), and I was let loose... to cut my fingers off, live with a dull knife, or learn to sharpen and respect a sharp knife.

I have a 204 here, collecting dust until SE needs touching up.

Stones are so much easier though. I sharpen while watching TV if I want to multitask... only cut myself once doing that in 14yrs. Stones from 200-800, sandpaper from 80-1200(dry, wood sandpaper), and the spyderco doublestuff... and my strop with veritas green....

My current project edge is running about 3 weeks now, only given a quick pass on my jeans after I hit 40 boxes one day at work... doesn't shave right now, but still fillets paper.. 20deg(ish) inclusive edge, on ats-55(spyderco ss 'fly) pe... 1200 paper, stropped, and reroughened on 1200 without raising a wire. Gets daily use.
 
Freehand!

I learned to sharpen freehand when I was a kid. Like many, I own a Lansky...UHH...used it a few times, put it up and I don't think I've seen it in 10 years.
I use stones, the hard, soft and surgical Ark stones a wet/dry sand paper set up and SiC grit.

Like T. Erdelyi said, it a zen thing to put a razor sharpe edge on freehand.:D



Does that make me a Buddist;)
 
I like freehand the most because I can adapt my sharpening style and my angle to the edge profile. One of my favorite thing in the world is sharpening a knife. I usually sharpen my knives (EDC) everyday, even though they are still razor sharp. I like the feel of newly touched-up edge. Mental Disorder ? Probably :D
 
I use the Edge Pro Apex for re-profiling, Spyderco 204, Norton Stones, and a strop for sharpening. So I guess my answer is C - all of the above.
 
Still trying free hand.
I got a 204, but that's really only good for brushing up and keeping the edge.
 
No muss, no fuss, easy clean-up with the 204. The only blade I have not been able to get hair popping sharp is D2. I can sharpen the 12 kitchen knives we use regularly in about half an hour with the 204. I get no "Zen" from sharpening, although I can do it freehand, it just seems like alot more ag than it is worth. It's sorta like cleaning the guns after a few hours at the range or after coming back from a hunting trip. The sooner the nasty chore is over, the better. True, as a younger, single guy I thought it was "cool" to clean guns, sharpen knives, and gut deer and fillet fish, with the guys and then have a few beers. But as a Dad with two sons, 3 yrs and 3 months, I don't have time for that sheet no more!:(
 
I voted system since I nearly always use my Edge-Pro, but I enjoy freehand as well and I recently (today) started doing my final finish with cardboard loaded with green polishing compound. I tried it on a whim and the results are spectacular! Also I sharpen my khukuris freehand since I put convex edges on them with a mousepad and sandpaper. So I consider myself and 'equal opportunity' knife sharpener. :cool:
 
Freehand. I tried the Lansky and get better results freehand. Besides, I felt guilty using it. Kinda like cheating....

Paul
 
what sort of stones are best for freehand? i have a collection of cheap crap stones i got at walmart but was wondering about the different kinds or preferd brands.
 
Other opinions may vary, but I'm looking at a set of japanese water stones, synthetic ones that is. That's what the Edge Pro uses and they cut and polish very well, I'm sure they work equally well with a little skill freehand. You can check them out at www.bladegallery.com , www.leevalley.com , and www.shaptonstones.com . One problem with water stones is that they're high maintenance; the stones will dish out and need to be flattened, which isn't difficult if you do it often.
 
There are no perfect set of stones, there could always be room for a bigger, coarser, finer stone.

The stones are not where the skill comes in, that's like saying the paint brush is responsible Picasso's "Starry Starry Night" or The chisel was reponsible for Michaelangelo's "David".

It's not the stoned, but the person behind it, practice technique and the rest will fall into place.

As far as stones go buy the biggest bench stone you can afford and have at least 3 progressions, Coarse, Medium, and Fine, you can always add more later.

Also keep the stones the same kind, don't want to be cross contaminating stones, oil and water don't mix,('cept in salad dressin').

My preference is for diamond stones finished off on a strop, but that's just for speed, it's easy to ruin an edge, and sometimes a blade on diamonds because they are so aggressive, not to mention expensive.

I've used everthing from a cars window to the unglazed bottom of a ceramic bowl.

The main key is repitition, people I work with think I'm nutz because I'll sharpen their knives for nothing, but it keeps me in practice.

The more you repeat a motion the quicker your brain remembers the shortest path between neurons to achieve this motion and the more natural the act becomes to duplicate, kinda like walking and balancing, or like a Martial Artist who practices till response become second nature.

The other advice I have is to learn the difference between sharp and dull, invest in at least a 10X loupe so you can see what a sharp edge is and compare it to a dull edge. You'll begin to see what it is that makes a sharp edge sharp. Look at new edges and compare them to your older knives with duller edges, the difference will amaze you.

Finally one last note, a lot of people scoff at the sharpie trick,(coloring the edge with a sharpie to find or maintain an angle) don't it works, and it's a visual cue for your brain, which acts as an aid in the learning process.

Never give up, never surrender, and as my old man liked to say,"There are no Absolutes, just Vodka"
 
Ive got the sharpmaker, and crock sticks, and have used buffing wheels,etc... but nothing is like freehand. I have had nothing but luck on DMT stones.
 
Not to nitpick, but Starry Starry Night was Van Gogh. (so Picasso's paintbrush was even less likely to be responsible ;))

Regards,

Shaun.
 
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