Zero Tolerance vs. Benchmade

Here are a few recommendations. First up, some others from the KAI lineup (ZT and Kershaw)...

Left to right: 0780, 0566, 0770, 0750, Skyline, OD-1, Zing, Blur, Shallot, Leek, Scallion (for reference)
The 0780, 0750, OD-1, and Zing are discontinued, but they can still be found on the secondary market. The 0780, Skyline, OD-1, and Zing are all manual flippers. The Blur is assisted, but it is thumb studs only (no flipper).
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Next up, some Benchmades...
Left to right: 710, 940, Barrage, Griptilian, Mini-Barrage, Mini-Griptilian, Scallion (for reference)
The Barrage and Mini-Barrage are the only assisted ones of the lot.
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Of the ZT's here, the 0770 and 0566 both see their fair share of time in my EDC rotation. They are mid-sized knives, but they ride as comfortably as more compact knives. The Skyline and Leek are among my most carried EDC knives overall. They are very compact and just disappear in pocket, and they excel at the quick and discrete utility cutting tasks, which make up the majority of my EDC cutting tasks. The Blur is one of my favorite knives to handle - very comfortable in hand, and my absolute favorite feel for any assisted-opening knife. I'm surprised I haven't worn through more torsion bars (actually, I've only broken one), given how much I incessantly flip it when I have it with me.

The only Benchmades that I carry regularly are a Mini-Grip (w/ custom Wilkins scales, not the standard scales pictured here) and the 940. The stock Mini-Grip scales are fine and functional, but the Wilkins scales transform it into something entirely different. Both the Barrages and the large Griptilian are rather bulky in pocket (you can see how thick they are in the pic with them closed). Whereas the 0770 and 0566 carry like more compact knives, these three seem to be the opposite. The fatter handles do, however, make the knife more comfortable to use if you're doing a lot of repeated and heavier cutting.

My top recommendations of these would be the Skyline, Leek, Mini-Grip, and 0770. If you're leaning towards the 0770, I'd suggest waiting for the CF version, which is close to release. Or, if you're like me and can't wait, get the aluminum handled one now, and then add the CF one when it's out. :P
 
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This looks great!

I recommend waiting a little and getting the 0770CF. The SpeedSafe assisted opening is very familiar to you. It's very light and a useful blade shape. If you wanted to sacrifice some in the looks department and don't mind aluminum handles then get the 0770 now and it'll cost you a lot less than the 0770CF. ZT 0770CF is due out this month but they'll be scarce because demand is high and many have preorders.
 
If you're leaning towards the 0770, I'd suggest waiting for the CF version, which is close to release. Or, if you're like me and can't wait, get the aluminum handled one now, and then add the CF one when it's out. :P

Ditto!
 
I recommend waiting a little and getting the 0770CF. The SpeedSafe assisted opening is very familiar to you. It's very light and a useful blade shape. If you wanted to sacrifice some in the looks department and don't mind aluminum handles then get the 0770 now and it'll cost you a lot less than the 0770CF. ZT 0770CF is due out this month but they'll be scarce because demand is high and many have preorders.

+2^^^^
 
I'm back & forth on the 484. One day I love the milling in the handle, next I hate it. Also unsure about the thumbstuds and the hump where they're located. To be fair I have yet to hold one, and honestly since I live in MA unless I order one I won't be able to.

The G-10 contoured handle on the 484 is very comfortable and looks great to boot. On Benchmades, I prefer thumb stud manuals over their assisted opening and flipper.

Here's the 484 right in the middle (940, 943, 484, 586 and 707):

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The information super highway has come through here again. I have to admit there has been a good case made here for BM. My issues with them were over their auto repair which turned me off to the brand. I'm not going into it here because it's outside the thread. I just want to add that I'm on the ZT side of KAI. The reason I have trouble buying the Kershaw brand is they offer knives from all over the globe. I want my Tactical EDC to be made in the U.S.A. and with ZT there's no guessing.
 
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Agreed... I may be the third or fourth one echoing this, but it seems right to me as well. The Military is just about perfect in my estimation.

Wish I could say the same about my Millie. I had to pry my new one apart and scrape what I guess was loctite off of one of the liners, one scale and washer. Still gritty after that. On the other hand, my Jo 2 was perfect out of the box. Never had to do that with my Benchmades or ZTs.
 
Wish I could say the same about my Millie. I had to pry my new one apart and scrape what I guess was loctite off of one of the liners, one scale and washer. Still gritty after that. On the other hand, my Jo 2 was perfect out of the box. Never had to do that with my Benchmades or ZTs.

I have 10 millies, all smooth. You must have a bit of bad luck.
 
I have 10 millies, all smooth. You must have a bit of bad luck.

No bad luck, just a gritty millie. I will polish the washers when I get a chance and I'm sure that will fix it. Everything else is perfect and I don't mind working with it. Just some overzealous loctite use.
 
I'm more on the Benchmade side these days. I carried a Kershaw Chive for about 5 years and owned it 9. It is a great knife. I decided I didn't want a assisted opening knife anymore and tried to find a Kershaw locally that was a simpler design. Couldn't find one that was USA made. This is my frustration with Kershaw in general. Never had a ZT knife but the overall designs don't really call out to me.
 
The G-10 contoured handle on the 484 is very comfortable and looks great to boot. On Benchmades, I prefer thumb stud manuals over their assisted opening and flipper.

Here's the 484 right in the middle (940, 943, 484, 586 and 707):

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The 940 and 943 are excellent carry knives if you don't want an assist. The 586 is an awesome assisted opening knife.

Actually your whole picture is a selection of great knives. I'm not sold on the Nak yet but it's still on the radar
 
Here are a few recommendations. First up, some others from the KAI lineup (ZT and Kershaw)...

Left to right: 0780, 0566, 0770, 0750, Skyline, OD-1, Zing, Blur, Shallot, Leek, Scallion (for reference)
The 0780, 0750, OD-1, and Zing are discontinued, but they can still be found on the secondary market. The 0780, Skyline, OD-1, and Zing are all manual flippers. The Blur is assisted, but it is thumb studs only (no flipper).
1169685_comparison1_open_800x437.jpg

1169685_comparison1_closed_800x379.jpg


Next up, some Benchmades...
Left to right: 710, 940, Barrage, Griptilian, Mini-Barrage, Mini-Griptilian, Scallion (for reference)
The Barrage and Mini-Barrage are the only assisted ones of the lot.
1169685_comparison2_open_800x597.jpg

1169685_comparison2_closed_800x452.jpg


Of the ZT's here, the 0770 and 0566 both see their fair share of time in my EDC rotation. They are mid-sized knives, but they ride as comfortably as more compact knives. The Skyline and Leek are among my most carried EDC knives overall. They are very compact and just disappear in pocket, and they excel at the quick and discrete utility cutting tasks, which make up the majority of my EDC cutting tasks. The Blur is one of my favorite knives to handle - very comfortable in hand, and my absolute favorite feel for any assisted-opening knife. I'm surprised I haven't worn through more torsion bars (actually, I've only broken one), given how much I incessantly flip it when I have it with me.

The only Benchmades that I carry regularly are a Mini-Grip (w/ custom Wilkins scales, not the standard scales pictured here) and the 940. The stock Mini-Grip scales are fine and functional, but the Wilkins scales transform it into something entirely different. Both the Barrages and the large Griptilian are rather bulky in pocket (you can see how thick they are in the pic with them closed). Whereas the 0770 and 0566 carry like more compact knives, these three seem to be the opposite. The fatter handles do, however, make the knife more comfortable to use if you're doing a lot of repeated and heavier cutting.

My top recommendations of these would be the Skyline, Leek, Mini-Grip, and 0770. If you're leaning towards the 0770, I'd suggest waiting for the CF version, which is close to release. Or, if you're like me and can't wait, get the aluminum handled one now, and then add the CF one when it's out. :P

Super helpful for comparison. Thanks!
 
I might be smoking something (I do live in Colorado) but every BM liner lock I have ever owned was Tip down carry. I think that the only way they do liner locks. Just some food for thought, if you want to do a liner lock and carry tip up you may have to go ZT
 
I would've said Benchmade this time last year. With ZT coming out with some lighter models combined with the new Benchmade MAP pricing I'll say ZT this year.
 
i'm completely new to knives, don't own a single one yet. but fyi...bladehq also shows zt 566 coming soon in blackwash and blackwash w/carbon fiber scale. how much lighter (if anything) will a carbon fiber scale be vs the g10?

and what do you all think about the benchmade 904 mini-stryker w/axis lock? i'm not seeing much on it.
 
i'm completely new to knives, don't own a single one yet. but fyi...bladehq also shows zt 566 coming soon in blackwash and blackwash w/carbon fiber scale. how much lighter (if anything) will a carbon fiber scale be vs the g10?

and what do you all think about the benchmade 904 mini-stryker w/axis lock? i'm not seeing much on it.

Got to the Benchmade subforum there are a couple of threads dedicated to the new Strykers
 
My vote goes to ZT, new designs and collaborations have been popping up steadily, along with new variants of great models and the prices are a bit more reasonable.
 
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