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Hi Vasilli,

If you have a way to contact the source, would you be so kind as to ak them permission on my behalf?

sal
 
RIA_V said:
The original message
http://talks.guns.ru/forummessage/5/218245.html
Details and answers to questions tomorrow:)
With the best regards RIA.
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Well as I understand you are the one who come up with this idea. I just in case link that thread to this one too.

Sal I guess you may communicate it to RIA directly - looks like he made this device. I will help with translation if you have any problem (being from Baltic Republic (if I am not mistaken) I think you should know some Russian?).

Thanks, Vassili.
 
Thanx Much Vassili,

My Russian is just a few words. My grandparents (Father's side) are from Russia & Latvia, but what I did know is lost in the caverns of my mind. I appreicate your English.

Hi Ria,

Welcome to the Spyderco forums and thanx for the link.

Vassili says the design for the edge angle guage is yours. Very nice work. Are you making them?

Can we purchase the design from you and can we make them in the US?

sal
 
I'd probably have to get another ZDP E4 if they were flat ground.
I think it's a very good idea.
 
Greetings to all posters and watchers of BladeForums!

I am very pleased to know that the device of my design is in actual use and is helpful for knife-lovers. The idea is not totally brand-new and almost identical to one posted at http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=40957&cat=1,43072 , but I had not known about it at that moment.

The initial design was not too brightly looking though. The shape was altered a little, et voila, the result is exposed on the pic.

I have crafted several small shipments (full-sized and mini edition (about 70% of initial size)), they are available to posters in russian knife forums, and in some knife stores here in Russia.

I would like to discuss the matter of precision of this tool. Certainly, this not a laboratory device. But it allows to estimate the bevel angle to satisfactory precision extent, which is important to beginner users of fixed-angle sharpeners like Spyderco and Lansky.

to Sal Glesser
Hello Sal!
Thank you for invitiation to the Spyderco forum and your high evaluation of my crafts. Your production has fairly achieved many fans in Russia.
In regards to your proposition, I guess we can make a deal my email should be in my forum profile.
 
RIA_V said:
Greetings to all posters and watchers of BladeForums!

I am very pleased to know that the device of my design is in actual use and is helpful for knife-lovers. The idea is not totally brand-new and almost identical to one posted at http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=40957&cat=1,43072 , but I had not known about it at that moment.

The initial design was not too brightly looking though. The shape was altered a little, et voila, the result is exposed on the pic.
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It seems to be a beautiful and functional tool.

RIA_V said:
I have crafted several small shipments (full-sized and mini edition (about 70% of initial size)), they are available to posters in russian knife forums, and in some knife stores here in Russia.
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How did you make them?

RIA_V said:
I would like to discuss the matter of precision of this tool. Certainly, this not a laboratory device. But it allows to estimate the bevel angle to satisfactory precision extent, which is important to beginner users of fixed-angle sharpeners like Spyderco and Lansky.
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What questions do you have regarding the precision of this tool?

RIA_V said:
to Sal Glesser
Hello Sal!
Thank you for invitiation to the Spyderco forum and your high evaluation of my crafts. Your production has fairly achieved many fans in Russia.
In regards to your proposition, I guess we can make a deal my email should be in my forum profile.
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Thanx much for the kind words. We are pleased that Russian knife junky's lke our products.

Bladeforums administration says you do not accept emails. You can email me at my address (sglesser@spyderco.com).

sal
 
Sal Glesser said:
What questions do you have regarding the precision of this tool?

sal
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I think it is more like: "I would like to clarify the matter of precision of this tool..."
discuss in terms of make it clear that this is not super-precise lab device, but I guess it is up to Spyderco to make it as precise as you like...

Thanks, Vassili.
 
I'm confused, which would hardly be the first time, are these gauges designed to test the secondary bevel on a knife? If so wouldn't you want to have a much shallower depth so that just the cutting edge slides in and not a good deal of the rest of the blade? Sorry if I'm being obtuse ;)
 
Sal Glesser said:
We are pleased that Russian knife junky's lke our products.

sal
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In this matter there is no difference between BladeForums.com and Guns.ru - you may have even more fans there then here. And everybody on Guns.ru are very excited that you like this design and going to produce this Ivan's gadget. Everybody congratulating him. And I guess you make even more friends there this way.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
Vassili,

Ask your friend why he made that gage without a small hole at the botom of "V". IMHO you need a hole just like woddworkers gage have so not to damage edge. How did he machine the "V"? How many did he make?

I made some simillar gages from coca cola can. Anybody can do same with angle meter and very sharp doctors blade and paper or leather punch to make the hole. Make "V"s 5 degres apart and go with one of best fit then estimate. For knifes just make sure the "V" just cuts into the hole to make only very small gap. For chisels and plane blades a big gap is Ok because bevel is big. On knifes bevel is small.

Cheers
Frank
 
I just got the Richard Kell angle gage. As near as I can figure, it is totally worthless for measuring the edge angle of knives.
 
Originally Posted by Sal Glesser
What questions do you have regarding the precision of this tool?

If I do not mistake, work3 had posted a question about this tool precision somewhere in the thread beginning. I just want to point out that precision of
measurement and precision (finnes) of crafting are different things actually.

Originally Posted by Sal Glesser
How did you make them?

I think it would be of more logic if I answer all questions regarding technical details in the private correspondence. I'm assuring you - crafting finnes
is enough not to mess up the angles.

Originally Posted by Sal Glesser
Bladeforums administration says you do not accept emails

I'm sorry, I guess did not manage to deal with profile settings. I have sent you a test letter.

to theonew

Yes, such opportunity was regarded. There was a lesser variant (about 70% of original size) made for the requestors. It had a lesser indent as well. As it
is proven by practice, deeper indent (or the tool size) does not bother, but make the usage more comfortable

to Frank Hillary

I want to point some some nuances. As a rule, customers love their knives and trying to keep them in good conditions. The gauge is crafted of soft not
hardened steel, which does not damage the cutting edge if used carefully. Some shipments had a small hole in the bottom of the indent, but in general it
was not noticed by the customers. Of course, everyone can make something alike using a material at hand, but if we are talking about precision and device's
long life - we can not go without production level machinery.
 
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