zt 0454 cts-204p, does one got it?

It definitely is of the 0454 design since it has the same backspacer and overall specs. There are a few Russian sites out there i have seen have these, and based on the response to an Instragram post by one of them, they can ship them to the US as well. If it was around $250-$300 i would buy one but not at this price. I will just stick to my normal 0454.
 
I may or may not have one enroute...

You can call me a sucker, but it's not possible to collect all the ZT's without one of these, and I intend to collect them all.
 
considering the original 454 was $500 direct from ZT, and the fact this one has to be shipped in from Russia.....the price seems to be pretty appropriate, even reasonable if you catch conversion on a good day. Of course I've been called crazy many times:-)
 
A few guys have these en route now. I think the 0452cf would have been perfect in 204p or m390. This model sits nicely between the 0454 and 0542cf in every aspect aside from price.
 
Apec said:
Why are they so expensive over there? That 0392 costs 50% more than they went for here.
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Welcome to...anywhere outside of the US.

In general...take the US price, double it...and that'll be your European, African, Asian etc price.
 
Rival1314 said:
considering the original 454 was $500 direct from ZT, and the fact this one has to be shipped in from Russia.....the price seems to be pretty appropriate, even reasonable if you catch conversion on a good day. Of course I've been called crazy many times:-)
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If you wanna play you gotta pay
 
ToxicBot11 said:
Probably something to do with the bad Russian economy..
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When the economy is bad, demand for luxury items falls. When demand falls, expensive goods will not sell as quickly unless the price falls. Slow inventory turnover is not a very desirable outcome for any retailer, regardless of the economy.
 
Apec said:
When the economy is bad, demand for luxury items falls. When demand falls, expensive goods will not sell as quickly unless the price falls. Slow inventory turnover is not a very desirable outcome for any retailer, regardless of the economy.
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True but this is a global economy. They know there is demand for this knife in other countries so considering how weak the Russian economy is and the crazy favorable exchange rate they will make a double killing on these.

Similar to how I just bought a knife from a Canadian maker and once he converts it into CDN he'll make like 50% more even though a few years ago he would have made roughly the same amount.
 
Scurvy092 said:
True but this is a global economy. They know there is demand for this knife in other countries so considering how weak the Russian economy is and the crazy favorable exchange rate they will make a double killing on these.

Similar to how I just bought a knife from a Canadian maker and once he converts it into CDN he'll make like 50% more even though a few years ago he would have made roughly the same amount.
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The first question is who's setting the price. Zero tolerance or the dealer? Second, this knife was released for the Russian market, so I don't see how global consumers are relevant.

If they are worried about weak demand, they would have just made this international release.
 
Apec said:
The first question is who's setting the price. Zero tolerance or the dealer? Second, this knife was released for the Russian market, so I don't see how global consumers are relevant.

If they are worried about weak demand, they would have just made this international release.
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ZT already made their money. I'm not sure if there are MSRP price controls in Russia like here (I doubt it). What I'm saying is that the Russian dealers are going to use this knife and try to sell them internationally themselves at a premium price due to demand and then get a double bonus when they convert those dollars into Roubles.

I don't know if you noticed but this is the first Russian exclusive I have seen that is being ACTIVELY marketed to overseas buyers. When the 0777BW got there, the economy in Russia was doing better so they were very hard to get outside of Russia. The 0454-204p is comparatively much much easier to get here than the 0777BW. I think that is directly related to the Russian economy.
 
Scurvy092 said:
ZT already made their money. I'm not sure if there are MSRP price controls in Russia like here (I doubt it). What I'm saying is that the Russian dealers are going to use this knife and try to sell them internationally themselves at a premium price due to demand and then get a double bonus when they convert those dollars into Roubles.

I don't know if you noticed but this is the first Russian exclusive I have seen that is being ACTIVELY marketed to overseas buyers. When the 0777BW got there, the economy in Russia was doing better so they were very hard to get outside of Russia. The 0454-204p is comparatively much much easier to get here than the 0777BW. I think that is directly related to the Russian economy.
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I just don't see anyone rushing to get it at that price, international or domestic. The s110V 0801 was 280 shipped. 0452cfs are 220 shipped. What they have it priced at is original 0454 territory.
 
Scurvy092 said:
I don't know if you noticed but this is the first Russian exclusive I have seen that is being ACTIVELY marketed to overseas buyers. When the 0777BW got there, the economy in Russia was doing better so they were very hard to get outside of Russia. The 0454-204p is comparatively much much easier to get here than the 0777BW.
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this is true. my 454 204P was much much much.......WAY.....easier to get than my 0777BW
 
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