ZT 0561-- Thumbstud issue

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I just got my 0561 great knife, but it is impossible to open with my right thumb. If my fingers are touching framelock I cannot open it no matter how hard i try this is a real deal breaker for me. does anybody have any solutions to this problem? Should i send it back to ZT?
 
Stop touching the frame lock. If you put pressure on the frame lock you're holding the detent ball in its pocket and essentially locking the knife closed. Nothing ZT can fix in your scenario.
 
Yeah I have yet to open the 056x with just the stud..I use the flipper or flipper and stud together...if you want a great knife to open with the thumbstud get a 0550
 
They are all like that, completely normal. I had both the 0561 and 0560.... I couldn't for the life of me use the thumb stud to open them up.
 
My 0560 was SUPER tough to open with the stud in the beginning. But after about two weeks, and a LOT of flipping, it loosened right up and I can open it with the thumb stud or flipper.
 
I apologize if this comes as blunt but did you read anything about this knife before you bought it? This horse has bean beaten to death buried dug up and beaten again.
 
I think the ZT056x is officially the most complained about knife EVER. IMO for $260 you are getting a LOT of knife for the money; there's really nothing to complain about.
 
I was able to use the upper portion of the thumb stud to open it just fine. However, upon the return of my 0560 from kershaw regarding an unrelated quirk, I can no longer open it at all, even if I position my thumb in the upper portion of the thumb stud. I'm not sure what they did.

Not a big deal. They're great knives and I think it's in the design. Use the flipper.

This one is going back to get a hand picked 0561 (not because of deployment via thumbstuds), I will be anxious to see if it will have similar quarks.
 
The Logical One said:
I think the ZT056x is officially the most complained about knife EVER. IMO for $260 you are getting a LOT of knife for the money; there's really nothing to complain about.
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^Good less people to fight over for the Composite one hahaha.. ok back on topic..

As Thomas W. Said...

By utilizing the studs as the blade stop, we’re enticing folks to use the studs as a way of opening the knife. The set up (heavy detent) can make the studs difficult if not impossible (for some) to deploy the blade. Inexperience hands will additionally perplex the situation. In retrospect, we should have left the studs off, done up an internal stop pin, and made the 0560 a no doubt flipper…our bad on that one. For those of you that can utilize both the flipper and the studs effectively…we’re happy you’ve found that balance. From a production build perspective it is near impossible for us to repeatedly dial in a 0560 that balances a perfect detent set up to accommodate for both flipping and thumb stud deployment.


I for one love my 0560, Its a great knife and once you man up and use it, flip it a bunch, it just gets better and better..
 
I don't see what the deal is with the thumb stud. For starters its a flipper so you shouldn't need a thumb stud. I don't have a 561 but have handled 2 of them in stores and could open both of them with the thumb stud without any trouble. I think people need to learn how to handle a frame lock and get some strength in their thumbs.
 
I've never had a problem opening the 2 I've handled with the thumbstud.
It's more fun with the flipper anyway!
I agree with chester22. Get the 550.
 
I have difficulty opening mine with the thumb stud as well, perhaps I'm just not very good with a frame lock. However; you'll have to pry this knife from my cold dead hands before I let it go.
 
I think the 0560 is only the most complained about because people bought them up not knowing what they were getting or not knowing what they wanted.

They saw ZT/Hinderer, Elmax, KVT and 3d machining and got all excited no knowing/realizing they were getting a flipper only knife of a fairly substantial size.

I think the thumbstud/blade stops (which was the reason for 99% of the heavy detent complaints) and the size are the two biggest issues people have with the knife.
 
Got me I can flack my 560 open with the studs just as fast as I can with the flipper. I guess I got one that has the detent just right. I must have good hand strength also, No desk job for me.
 
Scurvy092 said:
I think the 0560 is only the most complained about because people bought them up not knowing what they were getting or not knowing what they wanted.

They saw ZT/Hinderer, Elmax, KVT and 3d machining and got all excited no knowing/realizing they were getting a flipper only knife of a fairly substantial size.

I think the thumbstud/blade stops (which was the reason for 99% of the heavy detent complaints) and the size are the two biggest issues people have with the knife.
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Really? People bought them without knowing what they were getting? So the months and months and pages upon pages of posts didn't let people know exactly what they were getting into? There were CAD pictures, WIP pictures, production pictures, pictures of the knife in hands, pictures of the knife next to other knives, and tons of information given about the knife before it ever even hit the dealers. We knew that the knife was going to have KVT washers for super smooth opening and closing, we knew that the knife was going to be a flipper, from the pictures you could see that the "thumbstuds" were infact the stop pins. We knew it was going to be a large knife from the pictures, but also from Thomas telling us that it was going to have a 4" blade. If you like flippers then you know that you want a strong detent so that the knife can flip open fully and easily. With a longer and bulkier blade you want a really strong detent so that the blade rockets out of the handle when you flip it.

People knew exactly what they were getting. With the size of the thread at the time before its release, if you did not know what you were getting into then that was your own fault. There was plenty to read and learn from. All it takes is a little time and patience to read up on what you are thinking about buying and it's exactly what you should do. That should go for anything you buy. Some people just have to complain because it's what they are good at or they need the attention. I'm not singling out anyone in this thread or any other thread because the people who put in the time to really complain about things know who they are.

If you don't like the knife then just sell the knife. No need to start ANOTHER thread about the "super strong" detent that is set up exactly how it is supposed to be for a flipper. Personally, I have no problem using the thumbstuds to open the knife, but I prefer using the flipper since that is what the 0560/1 actually is, a flipper. If you want to open the knife slowly then I suggest putting a thumb on the stud then slowly releasing the flipper until you overcome the detent and then guiding the blade open with the stud.


Some of you Marys may just need to toughen up your thumbs. :D
 
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