ZT 0562CF Carbon Fiber

Quiet said:
I'll gladly be the d-bag to say it: anything that makes it hard for flipper scumbags to make an absurd profit while providing NO value is just fine by me.
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Know what's funny Thomas Welk made fun of people who were upset over 2nd hand prices. Said the people who were whining and complaining about it where people who didn't have money.

In any case guess what was in my door, as the mailman walked out of my house?
 
I'd suggest we leave Thomas out of this. Talking about him is a quick way to get this thread shut down.
 
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bld522 said:
I'd suggest we leave Thomas out of this. Talking about him is a quick way to get this thread shut down.
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Oh. Alright will do, sorry just that comment made me think of it and laugh at how right the comment is (about the flippers being parasites).
 
Luis G. said:
Know what's funny Thomas Welk made fun of people who were upset over 2nd hand prices. Said the people who were whining and complaining about it where people who didn't have money.

In any case guess what was in my door, as the mailman walked out of my house?
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LOL I can't speak for others, but in my case, I can afford the jacked prices, it's just refusal to do so on my part. At the end of the day, these ARE just knives, and (again speaking for myself only) just one of my many expensive hobbies.

What did you get in the mail?
 
Quiet said:
LOL I can't speak for others, but in my case, I can afford the jacked prices, it's just refusal to do so on my part.
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Me too. But I decided not to deprive myself of the knife I wanted. So I chose to protest the jacked prices in another fashion. I suppose you could say I was able to bake my cake and eat it too. I consider my solution to be temporary, however. I'll terminate it just as soon as ZT makes a licensed version of the 3.0" XM-18 . . . assuming they ever do that, of course.
 
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bld522 said:
Me too. But I decided not to deprive myself of the knife I wanted. So I chose to protest the jacked prices in another fashion. I suppose you could say that I was able to bake my cake and eat it too. I consider my solution to be temporary, however. I'll terminate it just as soon as ZT makes a licensed version of the 3.0" XM-18 . . . assuming they ever do that, of course.
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Ahhhh, I'm guessing you bought an actual Hinderer. Yeah, I am one of those that is squarely in the "This knife is flat out not worth $650+ that these go for on the secondary market" camp. I don't buy into all of the "Rick designed these for HARD USE!!!11!!! So these are better than any other knife!" marketing schpiel. In my opinion, there's nothing a Hinderer can do that a ZT can't do (except command several hundred dollars on the aftermarket). That is my opinion only, and I'd be greatly interested in seeing any testing that may have been done that might be able to prove that marketing ad copy. Of course, I also feel that any such test would also feature actions that I would never put a folding knife through. So, to me, the price disparity just isn't worth it. A $650+ production knife (not even a handmade custom!!! LOL) with G-10 and S35V? What? LOL Hell no. Sorry.
 
Quiet said:
LOL I can't speak for others, but in my case, I can afford the jacked prices, it's just refusal to do so on my part. At the end of the day, these ARE just knives, and (again speaking for myself only) just one of my many expensive hobbies.

What did you get in the mail?
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Zt 0562CF.
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Quiet said:
Ahhhh, I'm guessing you bought an actual Hinderer.
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I'd say guess again, but then I couldn't engage you in a conversation after that. So I won't. ;)

I too wait for the first comps to come in of the 0562CF versus the 3.5" XM-18. Should be very interesting.
 
bld522 said:
I'd say guess again, but then I couldn't engage you in a conversation after that. So I won't. ;)

I too wait for the first comps to come in of the 0562CF versus the 3.5" XM-18. Should be very interesting.
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Well there was a member here who posted pics last week of a side by side comparison, and someone else did also, but then started going about the fit and finish the actual Hinderer was far superior and thus worth what they go for. I disagree, but don't feel the need to cast judgment on the value systems of others.
 
Having handled 3 XM's so far the FF is superb and looking at my ZT's I see why the XM's go for those prices. I have one that flips like it has Speedsafe and the other 2 I can get about 75% max on a flip attempt with no wrist action. Does not really bother me as I flick my wrist from force of habit.
 
Quiet said:
Well there was a member here who posted pics last week of a side by side comparison, and someone else did also, but then started going about the fit and finish the actual Hinderer was far superior and thus worth what they go for. I disagree, but don't feel the need to cast judgment on the value systems of others.
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You'll have to discount some reports based on the fact that certain people will have a greater need to justify their purchase decisions than provide an unbiased comparison. (Just imagine how difficult it would be if you had to admit that the XM-18 you bought for $600+ wasn't worth three 0562CFs and you'll understand what I'm talking about.) And, of course, the fit and finish of a Hinderer should be superior to that of a ZT. The question is whether the additional fit and finish of the Hinderer is worth two to three times the street price of the ZT. I can't imagine that it is, but then I don't have a reason to justify a purchase decision I never made.
 
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ArabianKnight said:
Having handled 3 XM's so far the FF is superb and looking at my ZT's I see why the XM's go for those prices. I have one that flips like it has Speedsafe and the other 2 I can get about 75% max on a flip attempt with no wrist action. Does not really bother me as I flick my wrist from force of habit.
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Hit the pivots on the two that are sticky with a couple of drops of Nano-Oil and try again. :)
 
I suspect it will. I've never used it, but I've heard good things about it.
 
Are there any who have a confirmation from KC that their pre-order has shipped? I thought I see it somewhere but I'm not shure. I have my pre-order in for more than 3 months but still no confirmation.
 
I got another dreaded "we have not forgotten about you" pre order email from them today, nothing was charged though.
 
Okay fondled the 0562CF.
It's quite a bit thinner than the XM and flips worlds apart better however it still doesn't do it for me.
Seems I just don't care too much for the design.

Edit: Again like I mentioned the Hinderer design never did much for me, from the get go.
 
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Alas, you can please some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time. :)
 
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