ZT 808 exploded

[PURPLEDC]

Well if you actually proved anything instead of just telling us how big of a knife pro you are and how everything is above my understanding....and when called out, all you say is “I cant explain that here because you just wouldn't understand.... you prove absolutely nothing and wont even get involved with the discussion except to say “you dont know what your talking about!” wa wa wa...
You seem to think you post count makes you a knife expert.

I read your post and you offer very little nothing but allot of ….FU*K YOUs, and kiss my as* And you suck, ect....How many post do I have to comment on simply by sticking my head in and cussing does it take to make me a knife expert like you?

Not sure where you are fabricating this garbage. If you are talking about my whine and cheese posts thats because that is what that forum is for genius. Way to go reading the bare minimum again. The reason i am not pointing out all your bs is because its been gone over three billion times in the last seven years and i dont have the patience to educate someone who refuses to learn something. You came hear telling people they are wrong about subjects that have been discussed ad nauseum. The burden of proof lies on you. The only subject i didnt provide any proof on was on the locking sear support on a microtech. And yes because i dont want to spend the time trying to teach calculus to a cactus. That and everytime you are provided with proof of anything you either dismiss it due to a lack of understanding and it flies over your head like a flaming 747 about to hit the side of a mountain or you just pick up the goal and move it. And when that doesnt seem to work you resort to childish word manipulations and quote tampering. You have proven one thing and that is the only person who believes a word you say is you. That and you like scratching the surface of anything and then claiming to know all. So i will ask you again, do you aphave a picture of bearings that have worn through a handle?

 

[crufflers]

They are good knives.
The only complaint is that the pivot tends to loosen with use; I just tighten it back up (torx bit held between forefinger and thumb, and lightly tightened), but others may like Loctite.

I like Loctite. Pivots loosening up on any knife is annoying, and can get you cut too.

Interesting thread.

 

[bflying]

So am I correct in assuming that this is just another bait thread, and the OP really never had any intentions of considering the knife?

If so, he has waaayyyy too much time on his hands, works for a competitor, paid by a competitor, or simply has a burr stuck in a dark, uncomfortable place.

I for one love the 808. I like the blade shape, it has an amazing action and lockup, and just solid all the way around. If by chance it does groove by the 30,000th's opening AND affects the action, I just may replace it and consider it well used for intended purpose. But my suspicion is that "if" any grooves do happen, it will still just run perfect and smooth like 562 in another thread.

Remember that the average knife buyer does not have OCD and open their carry knife 1000 times per week. Most will drop in pocket and use occasionally when really needed. This knifes lifetime will probably only be cycled as many times as we knife freaks consider just broken in.

So much for the crumbling titanium theory.

 

[brandoak]

No it wasn't bait, I was and am still considering the purchase. I started the thread with hopes of seeing the inside because my OCD problem.... and then it just kinda exploded again into the same same. I do see ZT eventually adding steel races to there knives like every other manufacturer and if its because of dribble like mine or just a honest attempt to improve the design we will never know.

So am I correct in assuming that this is just another bait thread, and the OP really never had any intentions of considering the knife?

If so, he has waaayyyy too much time on his hands, works for a competitor, paid by a competitor, or simply has a burr stuck in a dark, uncomfortable place.

I for one love the 808. I like the blade shape, it has an amazing action and lockup, and just solid all the way around. If by chance it does groove by the 30,000th's opening AND affects the action, I just may replace it and consider it well used for intended purpose. But my suspicion is that "if" any grooves do happen, it will still just run perfect and smooth like 562 in another thread.

Remember that the average knife buyer does not have OCD and open their carry knife 1000 times per week. Most will drop in pocket and use occasionally when really needed. This knifes lifetime will probably only be cycled as many times as we knife freaks consider just broken in.

So much for the crumbling titanium theory.

 

[kniferbro]

Well, my ZT 0801 has no wear from the bearings.
None.

Of course, I only keep the pivot tight enough to have zero blade play.
I don't grab a cheater bar and attempt to grind the bearings through the scales.

I have wear on my ZT's and I don't "grab a cheater bar and attempt to grind the bearings through the scales". I like absolutely zero blade play though and tighten until there is none. I'd bet I use the exact same driver as you.

I can probably get your blade to wiggle

 

[crufflers]

I personally don't think OP is going to buy one of the ZT's discussed. I have the 801, 808, 0450, 0452 that I assume have this "issue". I love them all and don't expect them to fail or otherwise degrade in performance in any noticeable way. However as soon as they explode, I will post here ASAP.

So am I correct in assuming that this is just another bait thread, and the OP really never had any intentions of considering the knife?

If so, he has waaayyyy too much time on his hands, works for a competitor, paid by a competitor, or simply has a burr stuck in a dark, uncomfortable place.

I for one love the 808. I like the blade shape, it has an amazing action and lockup, and just solid all the way around. If by chance it does groove by the 30,000th's opening AND affects the action, I just may replace it and consider it well used for intended purpose. But my suspicion is that "if" any grooves do happen, it will still just run perfect and smooth like 562 in another thread.

Remember that the average knife buyer does not have OCD and open their carry knife 1000 times per week. Most will drop in pocket and use occasionally when really needed. This knifes lifetime will probably only be cycled as many times as we knife freaks consider just broken in.

So much for the crumbling titanium theory.

 

[Rival1314]

I read your post and you offer very little nothing but allot of ….FU*K YOUs, and kiss my as* And you suck, ect....How many post do I have to comment on simply by sticking my head in and cussing does it take to make me a knife expert like you?

Brandoak...I suspected you were a bit of a troll trying to shake up drama based on your nonsensical threads, pointless drivel, and insane post count for such a new member....but your quote here definitely confirms it. Nobody ever cussed at you, or told you off...you have however managed to annoy a great deal of valuable members here that are able to have level headed conversations and accept that other peoples opinions have value too. While singling out ZT's specifically, all you have managed to do is confirm that steel ball bearings are harder than the Ti they run in, which we already knew. Dozens of makers/manufacturers make knives in this fashion. Steel inserts in the race are starting to become more common, but its really a moot point as there is minimal impact or wear in routine daily use....and the wear we have seen has all been confirmed to not cause any issues. Stop making mountains out of mole hills, and please find a more productive use of your time. Maybe make a few friends instead of combating existing members that have contributed more to this forum that you seem likely to.

 

[PURPLEDC]

I have wear on my ZT's and I don't "grab a cheater bar and attempt to grind the bearings through the scales". I like absolutely zero blade play though and tighten until there is none. I'd bet I use the exact same driver as you.

I can probably get your blade to wiggle

The last time someone said almost the exact same thing the were holdiing the lockbar out of the way so it didnt isolate movement of the blade. Oddly enough the blay they thought they felt was them actually moving the blade in the direction it swings without knowing and the knocking was caused by the blade hitting and coming away from the stop pin.

 

[kniferbro]

The last time someone said almost the exact same thing the were holdiing the lockbar out of the way so it didnt isolate movement of the blade. Oddly enough the blay they thought they felt was them actually moving the blade in the direction it swings without knowing and the knocking was caused by the blade hitting and coming away from the stop pin.

You are absolutely correct Purp, I have notifced that exact thing sometimes. I check for play in every way imaginable. You'd be surprised how many knives can feel solid but once you change your hand position, you can get play

 

[PURPLEDC]

You are absolutely correct Purp, I have notifced that exact thing sometimes. I check for play in every way imaginable. You'd be surprised how many knives can feel solid but once you change your hand position, you can get play

No, I wouldnt be surprised. I know it may have looked like I was challenging you due to how some threads have been playing out but I was just sharing a story. Hope you didnt feel I was implying that this was the case with your ZT's and you.

 

[Halfneck]

Maybe treat your OCD and then you'll worry less about the potential flaws in a production knife.

 

[Revolverrodger]

Hey Brandoak here is an idea: look at knives other than zt if you don't like them
If you like your cheap chinese knives use them and have fun

 

[poolhustler]

" ignoring everything but their own opinion. """ yup, you do allot of that here.

Pot / Kettle ... Much???

 

[kniferbro]

No, I wouldnt be surprised. I know it may have looked like I was challenging you due to how some threads have been playing out but I was just sharing a story. Hope you didnt feel I was implying that this was the case with your ZT's and you.

Nope just having friendly conversation sir!