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18" Keffeler Sword (K18), AKA The KOD Piece

Discussion in 'Carothers Performance Knives' started by Nathan the Machinist, Jun 18, 2019.

  1. WValtakis

    WValtakis Hand Engraving, Anodizing and Embellishment Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    May 29, 2004
    Because OD green is the bestest color:p
     
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  2. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    I expected nothing else from you other than fighting for your OD green Tero-turf till the bitter end ;) :p
     
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  3. TommyGun56

    TommyGun56 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 29, 2014
    And I am seriously trying to talk myself out of getting 3:eek:;)
     
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  4. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    The idea is that if I should frame one up in a display type of box, I will need another another one in a more accessible location (behind the couch?) before I will have to break the glass in case of an emergency! How's this logic? :confused:
     
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  5. SwarthyGnome

    SwarthyGnome Basic Member Basic Member

    80
    Nov 1, 2018
    Wow, the Kayteen , K18, KODPiece, looks like a serious piece of work. I can’t say I like the look, nor do I have the disposable funds at this time, but I appreciate the work of Nathan and the CPK team.
    I am looking forward to seeing some action shots when it rolls out.
    Best of luck with the pre-sale. :thumbsup:
     
  6. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    I have a serious hunch that the CPK-Knucleheads alone will fulfill the minimum 50 x needed for cousin Nathan to reach that break-even point to start a production phase. Thereafter, we will have the overflow from other parts of this Site if the preorder thread is left open for a few extra days (one week max?).

    Nathan as the old adage goes, careful what you may wish for ;)
     
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  7. zmbhntr

    zmbhntr ̿' ̿'\̵͇̿̿\з=(•̪●)=ε/̵͇̿̿/'̿''̿ ̿

    Jul 28, 2014
    I'm debating with myself if I want the back edge sharpened or not. I'm not going to be going on knife or death. I am going to be chopping lots of wood with it. Having a non-sharpened spine allows for fairly substantial safety improvement for many real-world use situations. I understand that this in a way a bit of a fantasy weapon, and having the extremely sharp spine is definitely a fantastic feature for its intended use, and I definitely see the appeal. I'm torn.
     
  8. bluemax_1

    bluemax_1 Gold Member Gold Member

    734
    Jan 17, 2014
    Well, that guy is wider and fuller than I am...
     
  9. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    Thats why I'm thinking that I may be going for 2 x but I would like for Nathan to chime in with some pros & cons, altered specs if the top edge is left unsharpened, etc.

    Mr. Carothers, would you please shine some more light?
     
  10. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    If the top edge is left unsharpened, that top edge will be not-sharp.
     
  11. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    ^^^ :D :D :D :p :mad: :poop:

    P.S. I'm easily swayed with such compelling splaination! 2 x sharp ones please :p
     
  12. TommyGun56

    TommyGun56 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 29, 2014
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  13. JJ_Colt45

    JJ_Colt45 Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 11, 2014
    I can help you can get yourself 2 ... and you can get me one ... then you won't have to fight with yourself !

    I know right? ... Just call me Mr. Helpful ... :p
     
  14. bluemax_1

    bluemax_1 Gold Member Gold Member

    734
    Jan 17, 2014
    I'd say go for the double edged. At any point thereafter, you can much more easily turn it into a single edge.

    My reasoning is that if you decide to grind off the back edge, there's no concern about affecting the edge retention of D3V, due to the effect on the heat treat for that narrow zone you're turning into a spine.

    The reverse, however, is more delicate (deciding to sharpen a non-sharpened spine, without overheating the fine edge, and thus losing the edge retention of D3V).

    If local laws inhibit ownership of double edged blades, or you know for a fact, that you'll never have need or use for a thinner, preserved razor sharp edge (more obtuse edge for wood chopping, acute edge for brush/small limbs etc.?), then by all means, order it that way. Probably saves a few processing steps.
     
  15. TRfromMT

    TRfromMT Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 4, 2016
    By my way of thinking, just looking at pure economic justification, 2 sharpened edges make complete sense. Think in terms of dollars per sharpened inch. This thing will have nominally 36" of sharp edge.

    Stay with me here...

    At $1175, that's $32.63 per inch.

    Take the typical EDC at 3.5" and, let's say $300 for a knife. At that point you are $85.71 per inch.

    The K18 with both edges sharp is the biggest bargain going. Let's not over think this (too late).
     
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  16. Lorien

    Lorien Moderator Moderator

    Dec 5, 2005
    my two cents...
    this piece is DESIGNED to be double edged, and I personally find it a teensy weensy insulting to the designer to request it any other way. Of course, I'm overly sensitive to these things, but I'm also an opinionated asshole so take all that how you will
    :)
     
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  17. bullpin

    bullpin Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 8, 2010
    Setting my alarm for 4:59 pm tomorrow. Can’t miss on one of these. Very interesting looking blade. At an unbelievable price. Thanks for the offering Nathan.
     
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  18. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    The Keffeler Super Assassin has one sharpened edge, am I correct?

    The K18 is conceptually a different type of very large knife / short sword so I must agree with Lorien's take.
     
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  19. azwelke

    azwelke azwelke.com Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 12, 2007
    I would just tape off the back edge:D:p
     
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  20. evltcat

    evltcat Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 7, 2011
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