1911 vs Glock

Glocks are utilitarian and effective. But to me they look like an modern SUV, all plastic molding and unnecessary bumps.

The 1911 on the other hand, well, that's sexy like a classic hot rod. Sure you gotta tune it up and take care of it, but just like Levis and classic coke, It's an icon.

So on sex appeal alone, I say 1911.
 
The thing to remember about 1911s's it that they aren't cut and dry like glocks. If you buy a glock you've got a glock.1911's have so many different levels of craftsmanship, so many different options and so many different price ranges it makes it hard to decide If you do decide to get a 1911 I suggest you do your homework because not all 1911's are created equal.

My 1911 story:
I have always had polymer frame pistols. A glock, H&Ks, XDs, XDMs, and FNs. The only ones that weren't polymer were my Sig's and my 2 revolvers. Recently I decided to try out the 1911. After a lot of research I rented a Sig 1911 TacOps at a local shop and was shooting one hole, five shot groups repeatedly at 20 yards. I was already thinking that this was the 1911 I liked from what I'd researched, but the way I could shoot with it and the way it felt in hand is what really sold me on it. So I bought one and used it as a range gun. From the beginning, my first day at the range, I was shooting it better than any of my other pistols. And that stayed consistent through about 2,000 sounds of range practice. I had been shy about carying it because of it's limited capacity for a large frame pistol, but I shot so well with it I decided to try it. So it is now my ccw. I don't mind the limited capacity anymore. It's eight plus one with two spare eight round mags for a total of 25. I actually feel better of with this pistol than I do with my high cap guns because I can shoot it so much better.

Not trying to talk you into a 1911. That's just my story and I wanted to share it with you. For me the best gun you can carry is the one you will actually carry and the one you can shoot the best with. So far this is it for me. Good luck.
Chris
 
tomthebaker said:
I have been a customized 1911 guy for a long time, BUT I switched to the dark side to get this current Glock setup: Gen4 G17 with Trijicon RMR co-witnessed with iron sights. Crappy pics of a game-changing weapon; my carry gun:

(The white stuff is flour!)
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Is that what the kids are callin' the white stuff these days http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

If you are looking at the 1911, have you checked out the SPHINX line based on the CZ-75, which is a modified 1911, very beautiful, damn expensive and you can get them in SAO and drop in safety, similar to the Glock. Made from a solid piece of steel.

http://www.sphinxarms.com/

imported by Kriss to the US me thinks.

I've had two of the older 2000 series and they were as accurate as my SIG P210.
 
338375 said:
I'm not sure Clint Smith would agree with you :cool:
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I am not saying that everyone is going to be like me. I only get to practice so much. I usually am able to shoot once a week during nice conditions and less that that when it turns bad. I do practice my draw stroke, but I don't think that is enough for me to remember to always take the safety off in high stress situations.

I just like how the glock is very simple and when I pull the trigger it is going to go bang(as long as their is a round in the chamber.
 
Screwdriver said:
If you can't stop with 7, maybe you should not carry a gun. Just sayin. :D
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I just hope there is only one if it ever happens, but I know that isn't always going to be the case. That is why I have 15 rounds in the gun and 17 rounds on my hip.
Hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
 
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tomthebaker said:
I have been a customized 1911 guy for a long time, BUT I switched to the dark side to get this current Glock setup: Gen4 G17 with Trijicon RMR co-witnessed with iron sights. Crappy pics of a game-changing weapon; my carry gun:


How do you like the red dot site? I currently run xs big dots on my gun. I like them, but during force on force I don't always remember to see the sights. Does it seem like it helps to focus on the threat?
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1911 for me, I'm old school. A 1911 will get the job done.....with style.

If I'm going to carry a gun around for a good portion of my life and probably (hopefully) never have to use it, it might as well be something nice.

It's the whole Timex vs Rolex thing.
 
I would buy neither a 1911 nor a glock. I highly recommend the Sig P220 if you want a .45. You can get slim grips for if if it's to thick for you. When you pick one up it feels like a quality piece. Can't say the same for glocks or 1911's unless your talking expensive match versions etc.

Just my .2
 
smccabe17 said:
How do you like the red dot site? I currently run xs big dots on my gun. I like them, but during force on force I don't always remember to see the sights. Does it seem like it helps to focus on the threat?
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It is an incredible difference. Yes it helps focus on the threat, and there's a red dot right on it. I shoot computerized steel plates at the range, and program it to "show" the 8 plates for 10 seconds. With irons, even with a fiber-optic front sight, I could sometimes clear them in 10 sec. With the red dot, bot eyes are open all the time, I see the dot clearly, and I can clear the plates and still shoot 2-3 on the next lane. A clear 30% improvement, unless my math is really bad!

The dot auto-adjusts for light conditions seamlessly in real-time, the battery lasts over 1 year, and the irons are always there for back-up. I don't think it would work nearly as well w/o the iron sights co-witnessing. They are always right there if you lose the dot.

the range:

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I went to the range one day about ten years ago with a few Glock pistols (9mm & .45) and just for giggles I took my late grandfathers 1911 that was made in 1918. I spent about an hour shooting the plastic guns and decided to run just two mags through the old 1911 before leaving. Bear in mind that those old 1911's (pre-A1's) have sights that are really tough to see without using a magnifying glass. In any event, that antique was more accurate than any of my plastic guns and that is what caused me to look into getting some recently manufactured 1911's.

As stated above, all 1911's are NOT created equal and there's a fairly substantial difference between the cheapest 1911 you can find at the pawn shop and a $1,500-and-up pistol.

Glocks are dependable utilitarian tools that work well, much like a hammer from Home Depot. That said, they'll never be a finely tuned 1911.

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TurnerIII said:
Depends on how many of "them" there is. I like to plan for the worse. And they do not always wait politely and give you a chance to reload. ;)
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If there are that many of "them" you are in trouble anyway and probably should have had a tank.

"If your not shooting you should be loading. If your not loading you should be moving. If your not moving someone is going to cut your head off and put it on a stick." *- Clint smith -thunder ranch*

I love this quote!
 
I have looked at Kimber 1911's for years and have yet to pull the trigger so to speak. When I went to the gun shop to order one, got bit by the Glock Bug. I bought a Glock 21 in .45. Out of all the guns I ever bought, this was the one true lemon. Maybe it was this particular one because I read alot about them and people like them. My particular Glock 21 would jam constantly with both clips from the factory. So that eliminated the one bad magazine theory. I tried every brand of ammo I could think of. A friend of mine who was a cop and carried one for years even tried it and it jammed on him too. So basically, I got a lemon and that taste has never left my mouth, $600 worth.

With what I went through, I would not recommend a glock to anyone. I am gonna get a 1911 , what I wanted and should have gotten in the first place. There are lots of great brands out there for them, but have always liked the look and options Kimber offers. Always liked the LAPD SWATT Model as that has the features I like and it good for a first 1911.

Years ago, afriend of mine had a gun shop and used to have vintage WWII 1911's for like $250 everyday of the week. Boy I wish I had gotten one then....lol.
 
So I'm back from my local shops and handled a springfield 1911, and an xd-m in 9mm. I'm thinking it's going to be one of these two. Anyone have thoughts on the xd-m 9? It had an extended clip to bring the handle to full size and held 20 rounds.
 
Definitely get a 9mm just for the sake of cheap and available ammo, .45 is going to be harder to come by if the SHTF. I love both platforms but for me Glock can't be beat and follows the "KISS" principle which is a must under Adrenal reactive response shooting.
 
My G30 is with me everyday. On my person or in my truck while riding. I trust my life with it whether on the streets or in the swamp. My Kimber is a great gun, very accurate and fun to shoot, but I usually just use it on the range. If you want a dependable gun to trust your life with, you've already got it. If you want a classic that is a little more accurate and looks alot better, get a1911 also. You won't be disappointed with either.
 
I love the looks of the 1911. I owned a Combat Commander for a while and it was a great gun to shoot. It had an absolutely beautiful blue color, and was generally a dream to handle.
The Glock is about as ugly a gun as you can get. But what are we really after? Looks? Nostalgia? Old Skool? Bragging rights?
Or do we want THE most reliable, lightest, highest capacity, least expensive pistol in the world?
State your objective. If it's a war pistol, nothing beats a Glock.
 
Had a glock and got rid of it because it was a clunky non-ergonomic brick and not reliable, so It didn't fit my hand and I couldn't trust it.

I have a Taurus 1911, and it has been excellent.
 
joshuabl said:
So I'm back from my local shops and handled a springfield 1911, and an xd-m in 9mm. I'm thinking it's going to be one of these two. Anyone have thoughts on the xd-m 9? It had an extended clip to bring the handle to full size and held 20 rounds.
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I have an xdm45... it's absolutely reliable. It sits on my bedstand as I type with a TRL1 attached. The factory trigger is way too long and spongy for my likes though. I installed the powder river kit and it is much improved.

Personally, I prefer the glock to the XDm simply because I can tweak the triggers so much easier and cheaper than I can the XDm. The trigger pull is a major component in (my) accuracy. Although I do think the XDm has better ergo's due to the grip angle.

14+1 45 acp is an aweful lot of kick @ss...

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