1st Grader Suspended

[GWashington1732]

The whole thing is stupid.

I carried a knife everyday to school from the time I was 9 until I was 17, and in the open in HS and nobody ever said a word.

But then I am 44 now and we are talking about different times.

It's only going to get worse with time. It's going to get to the point where outside objects are not allowed into or out of school, books will be required to be padded and have those sharp corners removed, food will be precut and eaten with safety spoons, art class, shop class, and cooking class will be banned, all writing will be done on little electronic tablets that are built into the desk. That is exactly the route we're going.

 

[Ankerson]

It's only going to get worse with time. It's going to get to the point where outside objects are not allowed into or out of school, books will be required to be padded and have those sharp corners removed, food will be precut and eaten with safety spoons, art class, shop class, and cooking class will be banned, all writing will be done on little electronic tablets that are built into the desk. That is exactly the route we're going.

That wouldn't surprise me one bit.

 

[Bushman5]

You got to be careful of those metal spoons.

yea, look at how fat a spoon made Rosie O'Donnell

 

[GWashington1732]

yea, look at how fat a spoon made Rosie O'Donnell

Do not try and blame the spoon, that is impossible, instead only try to understand that it was Rosie O'Donnell who could not put it down that made her so fat.

 

[Kbrasmodeler]

Do not try and blame the spoon, that is impossible, instead only try to understand that it was Rosie O'Donnell who could not put it down that made her so fat.

And when she is ready, she won't have to dodge the calories...

 

[GWashington1732]

And when she is ready, she won't have to dodge the calories...

The thing that's really going to boggle your mind later on is whether she'd still be fat if she hadn't learned to use the spoon.

 

[shecky]

This is what happens when people demand strict and consistent punishment. Unfortunately, strict and consistent punishment is a license to let the rules/law do the thinking.

Think this only happens with liberals? Think again. Everyone has their pet peeve with which quick, consistent, and severe punishments must be the rule for all. When people allow incidents to be judged on a case by case basis, then everyone cries about unfairness, because circumstances usually vary from case to case.

Look in the mirror if you want someone to blame.

 

[Kbrasmodeler]

The thing that's really going to boggle your mind later on is whether she'd still be fat if she hadn't learned to use the spoon.

Ever since she got here, she's been thinking "Why, oh why, didn't I eat the BLUE cupcake...?"

 

[GWashington1732]

Follow the white frosting.

 

[Esav Benyamin]

It's ridiculous to treat a child that doesn't have the knowledge of what's right and what's wrong as a criminal. The parents should take responsibility over their child's actions, not the child.

The ironic part of this story as I understand it is that this child does understand right from wrong, and he knows he did nothing wrong.

It was a group of irresponsible adults who deliberately misinterpreted and exacerbated an originally innocent situation.

 

[knerd]

The ironic part of this story as I understand it is that this child does understand right from wrong, and he knows he did nothing wrong.

It was a group of irresponsible adults who deliberately misinterpreted and exacerbated an originally innocent situation.

He says “but I think the rules are what is wrong, not me.”

Did he know the rules before he broke them though? If he did then this shows that he deliberately disobeyed them because "he thought they were wrong" regardless if they were or weren't you still have to follow the rules. If he didn't know the rules then he obviously didn't know if it was right or wrong to bring the knife to school. It would've been the parents responsibility to teach their kid not to bring the knife to school. Either way I disagree with the school's actions. This should've been taken care of in a totally different manner, but they decided to make it into a publicity stunt.

 

[shunsui]

I found this article a little while ago ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/12/education/12discipline.html?_r=1&hp

Looks like this is the real issue:
...
Education experts say that zero-tolerance policies initially allowed authorities more leeway in punishing students, but were applied in a discriminatory fashion. Many studies indicate that African-Americans were several times more likely to be suspended or expelled than other students for the same offenses.

“The result of those studies is that more school districts have removed discretion in applying the disciplinary policies to avoid criticism of being biased,” said Ronnie Casella, an associate professor of education at Central Connecticut State University who has written about school violence. He added that there is no evidence that zero-tolerance policies make schools safer.
...

 

[john w]

A young man at the High School where I live (which had construction on-going at the time) found a blade from a utility knife laying on the ground and picked it up. A teacher saw him with it and he was suspended for the rest of the year ... didn't even bring it to school just found it on the ground and was guilty of picking it up. Man oh' man. He was spotted just after he picked it up ... he was not carrying it around with him at school.

 

[starboard]

It's ridiculous to treat a child that doesn't have the knowledge of what's right and what's wrong as a criminal. The parents should take responsibility over their child's actions, not the child.

The child knows what's right. It's the treasonous assholes who run the government daycare/brainwashing facilities that have got it terribly wrong.

 

[riz_aaroni]

"The law was introduced after a third-grade girl was expelled for a year because her grandmother had sent a birthday cake to school, along with a knife to cut it. The teacher called the principal — but not before using the knife to cut and serve the cake."

What a bunch of crap. The stupidity is unbelievable with some people. Not sure what the honestly think. Soon all food will come in squeeze tubes where no utensils of any kind will be needed and the possession of them will mean death by firing squad.

 

[TOM1960]

The whole thing is stupid.

I carried a knife everyday to school from the time I was 9 until I was 17, and in the open in HS and nobody ever said a word.

But then I am 44 now and we are talking about different times.

Up here in MA, I had the same experience. I am almost 49 and I remember that every guy in school carried a pocketknife. The most popular were the SAK/Boy Scout type knives, because of their utility. I can only imagine what would happen now. There wouldn't be anyone left in my class to graduate because we would all be arrested and expelled. My high school was private (all guys). The Marist brothers who were the primary teachers were tough but fair. Heck, one brother (physics teacher) was even involved in rifle competition and we had our own rod & gun club. Wouldn't happen today, that's for sure.

 

[Armadew]

I think it's blatant sadism. The teachers responsible should be fired, but we know they wont.

 

[knerd]

The child knows what's right. It's the treasonous assholes who run the government daycare/brainwashing facilities that have got it terribly wrong.

The kid broke the rules, he brought a knife to school when they're prohibited. It doesn't matter if the kid thinks he's doing right, he broke rules and shouldn't get away with it. I don't agree with how the school handled the situation, but the kid shouldn't be praised because he broke rules. I don't go to a store and take whatever I want without paying for it just because I feel it's right, rules are made for a reason.

 

[Ankerson]

Up here in MA, I had the same experience. I am almost 49 and I remember that every guy in school carried a pocketknife. The most popular were the SAK/Boy Scout type knives, because of their utility. I can only imagine what would happen now. There wouldn't be anyone left in my class to graduate because we would all be arrested and expelled. My high school was private (all guys). The Marist brothers who were the primary teachers were tough but fair. Heck, one brother (physics teacher) was even involved in rifle competition and we had our own rod & gun club. Wouldn't happen today, that's for sure.

Yeah, I hear you.

My schools were public schools, but we had some of the same kinds of things going on.

No, it wouldn't happen like that today, Swat would be called, then the FBI to handle all those dangerous people with pocket knives.

Like I said though, those were different times we lived in.

 

[Ankerson]

The kid broke the rules, he brought a knife to school when they're prohibited. It doesn't matter if the kid thinks he's doing right, he broke rules and shouldn't get away with it. I don't agree with how the school handled the situation, but the kid shouldn't be praised because he broke rules. I don't go to a store and take whatever I want without paying for it just because I feel it's right, rules are made for a reason.

I think you are missing the point here.

We are talking about a 1st grade kid........ 6 years old maybe.

Not a Gang Banger who is 16 with a wrap sheet.