2012 Bladeforums Knife - Chatting Thread

I feel that with a project such as this it is a given that not everybody will be happy. What kind of concerns me, and always has, is the feeling that is projected as such "if you vote then you should be committed to buy". With this knife, and all knives really, it is a supliferous purchase. For myself I rarely have hundreds of extra dollars sitting around waiting for me to spend. As such I have voted on a few years, and never purchased the knife chosen as I won't carry or use it. I'm not a fan of "buy it anyways and flip it later", as that is not the focus of my collection. I will admit that I am curious to try the Moose from a couple of years ago, but none of the others do anything for me when I voted against them. If they were my type of knife with features I didn't choose as first, then I would have bought them. But for me I'm not going to buy something that I won't use just to be part of the club, my lifestyle doesn't fit this way.

I guess it will be up to the committee of next year to determine eligibility of who can vote, but I think the forum knife will loose out if it is stipulated that "only those who will buy a pattern no matter what is chosen can vote at any stage". It seems that year to year there is a vocal part of the community that seems to push this type of rule, and if so I would just refrain from the process at all. Hopefully I'm reading too much into comments, but from participating every year until it is clear that the knife won't be useable for me, it seems that I am held in a bit of contempt (not personally but due to voting and not purchasing) because I choose to save my limited funds for what will suit me better.

Just want to put out the other side of the purchase issue.
 
I regard the final polls as the real commitment, when A pattern is chosen, and then followed by the detail polls(steel, scales,shield) If the final pattern put forward is not to my liking, I opt out. Otherwise, why have any votes? It could be just selected by a group of 'elders'. Very early polls are to get a general idea surely? If your desired pattern gets through and you then want to say something about the fixtures, you must where ever possible honour your vote by buying. This is how the committee knows the numbers to finally order. Otherwise, you would have to include ALL votes in ALL polls, hundreds. Of course, some people may want any knife, they don't really need to vote or discuss detail as they are presumably happy with anything, fair enough.

I bought the 08 Stockman, the 10 Moose and the 11 EZ-Open Bullet End. I missed out on the 09 knife by accident but I would have had one. All of these patterns I like and all of them reflect my sense of community with other forumites. If the pattern were one I don't care for, I would be unable to feel the same connexion I'm afraid. I'm sure all the committee want is for those who seriously SAY they want a knife to seriously BUY one.
 
CUTS LIKE A KRIS said:
I feel that with a project such as this it is a given that not everybody will be happy. What kind of concerns me, and always has, is the feeling that is projected as such "if you vote then you should be committed to buy". With this knife, and all knives really, it is a supliferous purchase. For myself I rarely have hundreds of extra dollars sitting around waiting for me to spend. As such I have voted on a few years, and never purchased the knife chosen as I won't carry or use it. I'm not a fan of "buy it anyways and flip it later", as that is not the focus of my collection. I will admit that I am curious to try the Moose from a couple of years ago, but none of the others do anything for me when I voted against them. If they were my type of knife with features I didn't choose as first, then I would have bought them. But for me I'm not going to buy something that I won't use just to be part of the club, my lifestyle doesn't fit this way.

I guess it will be up to the committee of next year to determine eligibility of who can vote, but I think the forum knife will loose out if it is stipulated that "only those who will buy a pattern no matter what is chosen can vote at any stage". It seems that year to year there is a vocal part of the community that seems to push this type of rule, and if so I would just refrain from the process at all. Hopefully I'm reading too much into comments, but from participating every year until it is clear that the knife won't be useable for me, it seems that I am held in a bit of contempt (not personally but due to voting and not purchasing) because I choose to save my limited funds for what will suit me better.

Just want to put out the other side of the purchase issue.
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I don't think it was the intention of any year to make people feel obligated to buy the knife. Everyone has financial ups-and-downs. Some people may only want to buy a knife if it looks like it'll turn out "just right" for them. The intention is for those that are entertaining a purchase of that year's knife to have their say by voting. If you don't plan to buy one, or if it seems to be going down the wrong path for you, which will preclude your purchase - those are the people that shouldn't be voting.

Those who are pinching pennies and are unsure whether they can afford the knife, but if they can, plan to buy it; those that will buy if the vote goes their way, those that have some interest, but are unsure about whether they will purchase the final knife - those people should vote.
 
Out of courtesy, I stepped back from voting after it came down to two patterns which I view as very common, already own, and am not sure I need to duplicate.

However, reading the posts above got me considering how this knife could still be made unique. The WT could definitely be lent some funkiness with an interesting, unusually placed, or oversize shield. The Canal Street canoe circular shield comes to mind and is a style I haven't seen from GEC (whom I'll guess will make the knife). Maybe some black micarta and an unusual brass shield could jazz up the 2012? I'd be way in for that!
 
A thought on the blades:

On every trapper I have ever had, when the clip blade is set in the open position, it takes a slight forward angle from the handle (Not the spine, but the edge). The spey blade in an open position almost always extends straight from the handle.

For our 2012 knife, I would like to see the same forward angle on the clip blade, and the wharncliffe can be straight.

I have always like this trapper feature, because it adds a little more variation between the blades and how they function.
 
I don't think we need to discuss the issue of being obligated to buy a knife if you vote. Most will agree that's not the intention or the deal. Nobody expect people to blindly commit to a knife before the final pattern is decided. What is expected, however, is that you only participate in the process if there is a realistic chance that you will purchase the knife if it is to your liking. In other words, if you have no intention of buying a BF knife....or even if it is a slim to none chance (for example....if you hate traditional knives and would never own one under any circumstances because you only own automatics!)....then don't vote in the polls.

So let's move on from this topic and start talking about the good stuff.
 
If you don't think we need to discuss it Campbell, why are you? :)

I voted until the knife left was one I did not want to buy, and would never buy one unless I really wanted it. I usually enjoy the process, but this year it got off to a quick start with lots of enthusiasm, followed by a dreadful lull, then a rapid succession of hasty polls. I don't mind not having the knife this year at all, and hope all that get one are happy with it. Curious to see how the Micarta color vote comes out. I wanted a cattle knife though, so I did not have a lot of enthusiasm once the pattern poll came out. I would not have bought even a cattle knife with Micarta scales though. I have never felt any pressure to buy, and I always vote.

Just my take on the Forum Knife this year.
 
At present, bone (my vote) is just 7 away from a tie and may still be a contender... especially since I signed up for 7 additional user names (supratentorial1, supratentorial2, supratentorial3... :) ).

Maybe some photos of bone handles will help. ;)

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been working on the preliminary artwork, we'll have to see how it shakes out behind the scenes (manufacturer, tube vs. box, etc.) but i got some good looking label ideas, the only problem is when i draw a trapper it looks like a whaler:D
hopefully shortly we'll get this nailed down and i can start the final push, get you guys and gals a pretty package for the sharp and pointy!
glad this is coming along for you all.
regards
gene "traditional art monkey"
 
The Government said:
A thought on the blades:

On every trapper I have ever had, when the clip blade is set in the open position, it takes a slight forward angle from the handle (Not the spine, but the edge). The spey blade in an open position almost always extends straight from the handle.

For our 2012 knife, I would like to see the same forward angle on the clip blade, and the wharncliffe can be straight.

I have always like this trapper feature, because it adds a little more variation between the blades and how they function.
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+1

Not sure if this is a standard configuration/set-up on a trapper, but I agree with the sentiment.
 
Micarta? Traditional??

Why not go with that age-old "traditional" carbon fiber material?:confused:
 
timcsaw said:
Micarta? Traditional??

Why not go with that age-old "traditional" carbon fiber material?:confused:
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Micarta's over 100 years old. Not as old as celluloid, but way older than delrin. Although I'm not sure if it was used in knives at the time, it was around before machine-jigging of bone.
 
wintermute said:
Micarta's over 100 years old. Not as old as celluloid, but way older than delrin. Although I'm not sure if it was used in knives at the time, it was around before machine-jigging of bone.
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A lot of people don't realize the original purpose of micarta. I didn't until I worked as an electrical engineer.
 
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