2012 Bladeforums Knife - Chatting Thread

I'm kinda surprised that more than 200 people already voted on the poll :)
Just for curiosity, how many 2012 BF knives were done/sold? For some reason, I thought there were not much more than a hundred of them around. Of course, I know someone might vote, and then decide not buying the knife (for example, I would not buy the big stockman), still I didn't expect so many votes.
Unfortunately (for me), the CJ is not ahead anymore, but as long as there's time, there's hope :D
As for the image on the tube...I've heard that it's been done long ago, and the tubes have already been ordered...and an image leaked out...

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Fausto
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yep i'll be adding that to the whaler congress illustration, maybe a poster instead of a label:D
gene
 
So a gent is a possibility.
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You are correct. I should have paid a little more attention. But a Jack has always ment two blade to me.

Am I the only one to find it interesting that the CJ is the only design up for consideration where no blade choice is offered?
 
It's interesting, but it's probably because the CJ shown at the beginning of the thread is just so...friggin...perfect :D

Nathan
 
eisman said:
Am I the only one to find it interesting that the CJ is the only design up for consideration where no blade choice is offered?
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Plenty of blade choice. You can either use the sheepsfoot, or the pen :D
Jokes aside, I have one thought. It might be a pointless consideration...but I guess that the votes for the WT are not all votes for the same knife; they actually represent a wider "spectrum" of knives...so we might need another poll, or eventually the mods would have to decide for it, while the CJ, or the large stockman, are actually just one knife.
I'd love a WT too actually, and I will be in for one if it should become the "winning" pattern, it's just that I'm not sure if "my" WT will be "the" WT for the 2012 BF knife.
We'll see what happens... :rolleyes: but this poll is very very nice and interesting to follow :)

Fausto
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I can't remember the exact number of people who bought a knife last year, but we sold around 180. Many people bought multiple knives. I hope that people adhere to the understanding that ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE SERIOUS ABOUT BUYING A 2012 KINVE VOTE IN THE POLL. It throws of ordering and estimating quantity when everybody under the sun places a vote.
 
Campbell, thanks for the info :)
Actually, 180 is quite a big number, more than I guessed, and I assume these years more will be sold (at least one...mine!).

Fausto
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I voted in the poll, with 100% intent to buy. As long as the Forum knife doesn't end up being one with a wharncliff blade. If I don't vote to make my preference known, I don't have any input into what will potentially cost me $100+. But for that kind of money I'd rather have a number of other knives than anything wharncliff. I've said it before, and I'll say it now. They don't do anything for me. And I'm not going to buy something everybody else likes just because I voted for something else. I have to think there are others voting who will bow out if the popular choice ends up being something they just can't live with. If, as has been stated previously, this year a non-refundable deposit has to be made early someone is going to know how many are being ordered pretty close to the time of ordering.
 
cnas122 said:
I can't remember the exact number of people who bought a knife last year, but we sold around 180. Many people bought multiple knives. I hope that people adhere to the understanding that ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE SERIOUS ABOUT BUYING A 2012 KINVE VOTE IN THE POLL. It throws of ordering and estimating quantity when everybody under the sun places a vote.
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242 voted on the pattern last year.
Can't find the thread listing the members who paid.
Factoring in multiples, maybe 50-60%? of pattern voters actually followed through.

Last year the winning pattern got 39% of a 5-way vote, with Teardrops combining for almost 59%. So basically 60% voted for the pattern.
This year the winning knife, it seems will have about 30% of the votes, and doesn't have another knife like it like last years did. So basically 70% will have voted for something other than the winning pattern.

With about the same number of total votes (maybe more? it's still early), I would expect to see less orders this year. That is assuming the knife will cost about $100 again.

I voted the last three years, and I bought one every year even though "My" knife lost every year (actually the Swayback won in 2009, but we couldn't get it made). This year there is one pattern I will pass on should it win, but I am serious about buying a knife.
 
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The only Wharncliffe Trappers I have found are Case and Customs. Custom isn't going to happen and while Case does makes a Wharncliffe Trapper, they only make it in Tru-sharp.

Tru-Sharp isn't my cup of tea. I'd like one in a different alloy. I'm a user, not a collector, and Tru-sharp doesn't just doesn't hold an edge long enough to suit me.
 
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I voted in the poll, with 100% intent to buy. As long as the Forum knife doesn't end up being one with a wharncliff blade. If I don't vote to make my preference known, I don't have any input into what will potentially cost me $100+. But for that kind of money I'd rather have a number of other knives than anything wharncliff. I've said it before, and I'll say it now. They don't do anything for me. And I'm not going to buy something everybody else likes just because I voted for something else. I have to think there are others voting who will bow out if the popular choice ends up being something they just can't live with. If, as has been stated previously, this year a non-refundable deposit has to be made early someone is going to know how many are being ordered pretty close to the time of ordering.
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that is not 100% intent to buy.
don't worry i'm confused by the poll as well.
i think it will be 2013 by the time its all sorted out.
the committee need to haul on the reins a bit maybe.
perhaps we need some examples that are more exact than this one blade two blade business.
 
Read the second sentence. I said I'd buy, as long as the choice is not anything wharncliff. That is 100% intent to buy anything but a wharncliff blade knife. Either as a single blade, or as a main or secondary blade of a multiple blade model. I don't follow the cult of the wharncliff blade, not now and not later. And I won't buy into that cult just because I voted for something I'd actually like to have and use.
 
I had always assumed that it was asked you only vote if you intend to buy the pattern you voted for. I don't expect someone to shell out for a whaler when they voted for a peanut and vice versa.
 
Please keep in mind that we're way behind this year. A pattern was chosen by the beginning of February last year. We're at the beginning of March this year, still without a pattern. It's understandable that some will not choose to buy the forum knife this year - it's hard to keep over 200 people happy. Heck, the stockman wins, I wouldn't buy it, and I'm helping to steer this (whaling :D ) ship. We can vote and vote and vote, but no matter what, not everyone will be happy.

We still have to work on scale material, find out which manufacturers are interested, negotiate with those manufacturers, have a prototype made for inspection, have intial orders taken (BTW, those complaining about a non-refundable down payment, keep in mind that in past years we paid everything up front), and get the darn things made. All hopefully before Christmas.
 
If GEC makes the 2012 knife and it's a Wharncliffe Trapper, I'm wondering what pattern we/they will use. Maybe the #48 slim dogleg?? If we go that route, I'd like the other blade to be clip with a long pull and swedge like this one:

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The Case Mini-Trapper is designed really well. It has the Wharncliffe behind the Clip Blade and both nail nicks are accessible from the same side.

knarfeng said:
The only Wharncliffe Trappers I have found are Case and Customs. Custom isn't going to happen and while Case does makes a Wharncliffe Trapper, they only make it in Tru-sharp.

Tru-Sharp isn't my cup of tea. I'd like one in a different alloy. I'm a user, not a collector, and Tru-sharp doesn't just doesn't hold an edge long enough to suit me.
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I think I remember Kerry saying that the Case Wharncliffe Trapper was Tony Bose's idea and that Tony used to used to grind the spey blades into Wharncliffe blades on the trappers that he bought before he made knives. I'm not sure if I'm remembering correctly though. But that could help explain why they are mostly from Case.

There are a few other examples in addition to the Case 62154W, 6207W, and 6245W (tiny, mini, regular size) in TrueSharp. The Case/Bose slimline trapper was ATS-34 and was reissued in damascus.
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There's also one from Carl Schleiper but I don't know the blade steel or the availability.
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GEC also makes a Furtaker Trapper in 1095 and 440C and there's also a single blade #72 pattern wharncliffe with a locking blade.
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Jake,

I remember Kerry saying the same thing. If we can get Case to do one for us using Tony's design then I'm all for it (it probably won't hit the $100 mark though...:()

As for GEC, I picture a trapper based on the #48 frame. I happen to like the thinner muskrat clip blade of the single blade #48s over the one on the jack (although the one with a long pull looks great too). The long pull would clip is actually similar to the Scagel Fruitports without the cut out. For the wharncliffe blade, I pictured the Scagel as well without the cut out...
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I saw a suggestion on the #73 frame. I think that would be interesting, a beefy WT. I'd prefer the #48 or #73 to a #53 Furtaker only because those have already been offered by GEC and are still available if someone wants one (in fact, I ordered another one last night:o)

I also wouldn't count out Queen. I like their #51 Mini Trapper frame and have 3 jacks in that size. If they can do it in D2 to a high level of F&F, I'd be all over it.
 
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Trand, Thank you for confirming the Bose Wharncliffe. I'd also be interested in one from Case but I'm not sure that we could hit their 500 minimum order. I think your idea of the slimmer clip blade might work better since it would be easier to leave access to the Wharncliffe nail nick if it's placed on the same side.



After my prior post, I remembered that Case did the mini Wharncliffe trapper in damascus but I don't think they made one with CV.

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I like the idea of a fruitport with a long pull instead of the hole. If it could be made into a lockback, that would be my dream knife.
 
Here's another pic of the muskrat clip when closed. I have that Case Damascus MT too but even if case would make it, I don't think we'd hit our $100 target.
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