2012 HTM Forum Gunhammer: *Commitment/Sign-up* thread

Think I'm with you.. Hell, this is a small limited run that should have been done in a month to month and a half... All he has to do is the steel, and anodize the handles.
 
Striderco said:
I was just thinking the same thing. It was like a mad dash to get our deposits and now what? I don't think i ll do something like this again!
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I guess I'll have to put my mod hat on again. Darrel was in the process of moving his entire shop from Ohio to Texas. He should either be up and running again now or close to it. This shop is much larger and will allow him to do a lot more than he was able to at his old shop. Just think of the logistics involved.
 
I am sure there is a good explanation for this guys. I sure would like to hear it though. Either way, we know the wait is predicted to be 6 months or so anyways. Just curious what the hold up is.
 
NM08SRT8 said:
Any update? All this rush to get our payments In and then the project gets delayed?
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Striderco said:
I was just thinking the same thing. It was like a mad dash to get our deposits and now what? I don't think i ll do something like this again!
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NM08SRT8 said:
Think I'm with you.. Hell, this is a small limited run that should have been done in a month to month and a half... All he has to do is the steel, and anodize the handles.
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The project hasn't been "delayed". As Darrel, Hark, and I have been saying all along, the ETA on these is in the 6-month range from the time that all the deposits were in and the order became official. That's the same timeframe as the KnifeCenter exclusive M390 Gunhammers (a similarly sized limited run): the KC folks put in the order for their exclusive run at the 2012 SHOT Show and started receiving the knives in mid-summer. As with the deposit that a dealer like KnifeCenter, Spark/1SKS (with the Kershaw forum knife), etc. puts down when they commission an exclusive, the deposits here are not just for special materials, but also serve as a tangible commitment from the ordering company/individual that allows the manufacturer to put the project in their production schedule by insuring against the dealer/individuals backing out.

I appreciate that you guys are eager for these knives. Everyone who ordered one is -- myself included. But making baseless claims about the timeframe in which the project "should" be completed with no knowledge of HTM's production schedule/operations (e.g., other projects that are scheduled for shop/machine time before this one -- the 600-piece limited run HTM Gunhammers with CTS-XHP, for instance) is simply irresponsible. The same goes for complaining that you want the knives rightnow less than a month after the deposit deadline passed and the order became official -- let alone insinuating that you're worried that Darrel/HTM simply took your deposit money and ran.


EDIT: Looks like Hark posted while I was typing my (slightly annoyed) reply. As he mentioned, the major development that we spoke somewhat cryptically about last week is that Darrel has been moving his shop and all of his employees from Ohio to a new facility in Texas. The new shop is 2.5x bigger than the old one, and Darrel will also be getting quite a bit of new equipment that will increase both the scale of the DDR/HTM operation and the amount of cool stuff that he can do, especially on the customs.
 
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The hold up is that he's been moving his shop (which means all the machines and other things required for knife making) from Ohio to Texas.
 
Patience, Grasshoppers. Texas, eh? I might end up in Texas in a couple years if the wife gets the military residency she's looking for. Maybe Darrel will let me stop in and gawk :)
 
I just stumbled on this thread, can anyone tell me if preorder is closed or if I can still get in on one of these bad boys? Oh and if it is available what is the deposit amount and who to send to. Thanks!
 
Neuron or HTM would probably have to answer whether you can still get in on it. Deposit is 180, paid to HTM (call them on the phone in the morning for quickest results). I still see a couple of the lower serial numbers that never got paid, so you might be able to snag one of those, assuming Darrel doesn't mind.
 
neuron said:
The project hasn't been "delayed". As Darrel, Hark, and I have been saying all along, the ETA on these is in the 6-month range from the time that all the deposits were in and the order became official. That's the same timeframe as the KnifeCenter exclusive M390 Gunhammers (a similarly sized limited run): the KC folks put in the order for their exclusive run at the 2012 SHOT Show and started receiving the knives in mid-summer. As with the deposit that a dealer like KnifeCenter, Spark/1SKS (with the Kershaw forum knife), etc. puts down when they commission an exclusive, the deposits here are not just for special materials, but also serve as a tangible commitment from the ordering company/individual that allows the manufacturer to put the project in their production schedule by insuring against the dealer/individuals backing out.

I appreciate that you guys are eager for these knives. Everyone who ordered one is -- myself included. But making baseless claims about the timeframe in which the project "should" be completed with no knowledge of HTM's production schedule/operations (e.g., other projects that are scheduled for shop/machine time before this one -- the 600-piece limited run HTM Gunhammers with CTS-XHP, for instance) is simply irresponsible. The same goes for complaining that you want the knives rightnow less than a month after the deposit deadline passed and the order became official -- let alone insinuating that you're worried that Darrel/HTM simply took your deposit money and ran.


EDIT: Looks like Hark posted while I was typing my (slightly annoyed) reply. As he mentioned, the major development that we spoke somewhat cryptically about last week is that Darrel has been moving his shop and all of his employees from Ohio to a new facility in Texas. The new shop is 2.5x bigger than the old one, and Darrel will also be getting quite a bit of new equipment that will increase both the scale of the DDR/HTM operation and the amount of cool stuff that he can do, especially on the customs.
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Well neuron, I think this is the update we all have been waiting for. I was out of line for being so impatient and speaking in haste. Yes, I am extremely excited for my first Gunny, being a forum semi-custom at that. Perhaps still not an excuse. My time frame I had my head "set" on was from speaking to a shop employee there regarding the comparison between the Bowie and Torpedo blade styles, and was said it should be mid to late September when these should be done, now that got me excited..

Aside from all of this, I do appreciate the update of what's been going on.
 
Sorry for being over bearing guys. But, my plan worked. Send the crowd into a frenzy, then someone will be forced to spill the beans!

Congrats on the new shop HTM/DDR. Just a little over 5 months to go on the Gunhammers!
 
TriviaMonster said:
Sorry for being over bearing guys. But, my plan worked. Send the crowd into a frenzy, then someone will be forced to spill the beans!

Congrats on the new shop HTM/DDR. Just a little over 5 months to go on the Gunhammers!
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Depends on if they've been started yet. :(
 
That's true Rev. But, I think when DDR quoted the 6 month time estimate, he probably factored in this move or at least a move, I am guessing. I can't imagine he all of a sudden up and decided to move across several states in less than a few weeks time. If the shop is almost done, he would've had to known before the deposits were even in.
 
TriviaMonster said:
That's true Rev. But, I think when DDR quoted the 6 month time estimate, he probably factored in this move or at least a move, I am guessing. I can't imagine he all of a sudden up and decided to move across several states in less than a few weeks time. If the shop is almost done, he would've had to known before the deposits were even in.
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This is correct. The 6-month estimate takes into account the move, other stuff ahead of the forum knife in the production schedule, and so forth.
 
Congrats to DDR for growing! Hopefully our knives will be some of the first to come out of this fancy new facility.
 
Yeah I think our small batch would be a good first run to test out this new facility!! Go Darrel!! :D
 
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