2012 Traditional Forum Knife - let's begin discussion.

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Robert.B said:
Yeah if I had a knife like that I'd be dying the bone another color lol..GEC's dark purple colored bone is alright though.
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GEC's grape color is definitely OK with me. The scales on those trappers are pretty awful IMO. - Ed J
 
cj65 said:
Oh no you dint!

OK, I want to chime in here. I worked the spread sheet for all the knives in 2011. We had multiple purchases from some which took extra effort to log and such, and keep straight. I had more than 5 people change their addresses, which is also fine but adds work to make sure you got it all right. At the end of the year, it is on the committee to get it right, and make everyone as happy as possible. This talk about multiple scale selections would be a nightmare for anyone to deal with. Also, we paid for the tang stamp so that should be a no brainer that we use it til the end of the century, as it was designed and intended. We need at least a medium sized knife to fit the stamp, and so be it. Purple is not what I would call a traditional knife color. I would be sad if we ended up with purple scales.
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cj65 said:
Oh no you dint!

OK, I want to chime in here. I worked the spread sheet for all the knives in 2011. We had multiple purchases from some which took extra effort to log and such, and keep straight. I had more than 5 people change their addresses, which is also fine but adds work to make sure you got it all right. At the end of the year, it is on the committee to get it right, and make everyone as happy as possible. This talk about multiple scale selections would be a nightmare for anyone to deal with. Also, we paid for the tang stamp so that should be a no brainer that we use it til the end of the century, as it was designed and intended. We need at least a medium sized knife to fit the stamp, and so be it. Purple is not what I would call a traditional knife color. I would be sad if we ended up with purple scales.
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Maybe I have misunderstood the intent of the annual BF knife. When I have been reading the discussions of years past, I thought that we were trying to come up with a knife that has not been manufactured before, something unique to BF. Wasn't that what GEC did this past year? They had to make something totally new for the 2011 knife? Haven't some of our knife blades been made of new metals that aren't traditional? What is so wrong about using a shape, design, blade, handle material that is new or perhaps similar to something that was made 100 years ago, but in making it unique for BF, which is what we are all trying to do, can't we be open to considering a unique color? No one suggested that the handle be fuscia pink or fluorescent green or yellow. There are deep and dark shades of purple that are quite handsome, and not "feminine." Black, brown, ivory handles. Yippee.

And this is not a vote. It was a merely a suggestion for a color that can be quite handsome and a traditional color. There are plenty of extremely handsome knives out there that have magnificient purple handles. Some of the very popular knife makers today are using some very nice purple handles in their knives.

I imagine many of you men would be shocked at how many compliments you would get on a knife with the right shade of purple in the handle. Think outside the friggin' traditional earthtones. I am certainly not going to stop posting on BF if there is never an annual BF knife with a purple handle. And I doubt I have ever pitched a fit at any of the suggestions made over the years for the different designs and blade types, etc. And yes, I have voted on the knife designs.

Thank you again to those of you who remain open minded to suggestions that might fall a bit outside the normal range of what might be considered traditional. There are many traditions, ya know. And purple has played a part of many traditions over the centuries.

But holy cheese and crackers, don't get yer knickers in a bunch because of a stupid color suggestion. Get a grip, why don'tcha?

TJ
 
TANG STAMP:

Thanks for the responses guys.

There is a lot that I did not know in what you all said.

ultimately I would not want to go against the traditions of the traditional forum. If the tang stamp was created to be used continually for every knife, I totally respect that, and agree that its use should not end. If this is the case, then we should at least list the limitations of the stamp, and then limit the knife pattern/ size possibilities. Otherwise, people like myself will continually discuss knives that are too small.

Maybe some day in the future, we could all agree to create an annual stamp for smaller knives. It is the idea of limitless traditional possibilities that really draws me to the annual forum knife. (I like knives large, medium, and small.:))

I am going to buy a 2012 knife no matter what happens, I am sure it will be great. :thumbup:

If we go with a large pattern, my vote goes to the largest. A super sized easy open GEC Whaler pattern with a single wharncliffe blade that we call " The Leviathan." :eek::D
 
The Government said:
If we go with a large pattern, my vote goes to the largest. A super sized easy open GEC Whaler pattern with a single wharncliffe blade that we call " The Leviathan." :eek::D
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MAKE IT SO!!! :D

I could totally get behind that...we need something big, a real pocket presence.
 
TLARbb said:
So, gene, you might have a problem with these then?

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Ed J
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Whoa, lavender!and not only is it a wharnie but it's a darn trapper too, personally my least favorite pattern :o which makes me a bit weird as i know its a beloved pattern. although those look better than the long spey blade regular trappers... yeah i'm digging a hole here:D
Honestly, im kinda liking the GEC grape, and like TJ said a plumb purple (darker) could look cool.
my favorite material is still ebony...
regards
gene
 
... aslong its not pink, I don't care color. GEC has some great purples like grape purple and sage purple... I am partial of the candy corn orangish.-yellowish colors though....
 
Totally Judy said:
Maybe I have misunderstood the intent of the annual BF knife. When I have been reading the discussions of years past, I thought that we were trying to come up with a knife that has not been manufactured before, something unique to BF. Wasn't that what GEC did this past year? They had to make something totally new for the 2011 knife? Haven't some of our knife blades been made of new metals that aren't traditional? What is so wrong about using a shape, design, blade, handle material that is new or perhaps similar to something that was made 100 years ago, but in making it unique for BF, which is what we are all trying to do, can't we be open to considering a unique color? No one suggested that the handle be fuscia pink or fluorescent green or yellow. There are deep and dark shades of purple that are quite handsome, and not "feminine." Black, brown, ivory handles. Yippee.

And this is not a vote. It was a merely a suggestion for a color that can be quite handsome and a traditional color. There are plenty of extremely handsome knives out there that have magnificient purple handles. Some of the very popular knife makers today are using some very nice purple handles in their knives.

I imagine many of you men would be shocked at how many compliments you would get on a knife with the right shade of purple in the handle. Think outside the friggin' traditional earthtones. I am certainly not going to stop posting on BF if there is never an annual BF knife with a purple handle. And I doubt I have ever pitched a fit at any of the suggestions made over the years for the different designs and blade types, etc. And yes, I have voted on the knife designs.

Thank you again to those of you who remain open minded to suggestions that might fall a bit outside the normal range of what might be considered traditional. There are many traditions, ya know. And purple has played a part of many traditions over the centuries.

But holy cheese and crackers, don't get yer knickers in a bunch because of a stupid color suggestion. Get a grip, why don'tcha?

TJ
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The Government said:
TANG STAMP:

Thanks for the responses guys.

There is a lot that I did not know in what you all said.

ultimately I would not want to go against the traditions of the traditional forum. If the tang stamp was created to be used continually for every knife, I totally respect that, and agree that its use should not end. If this is the case, then we should at least list the limitations of the stamp, and then limit the knife pattern/ size possibilities. Otherwise, people like myself will continually discuss knives that are too small.

Maybe some day in the future, we could all agree to create an annual stamp for smaller knives. It is the idea of limitless traditional possibilities that really draws me to the annual forum knife. (I like knives large, medium, and small.:))

I am going to buy a 2012 knife no matter what happens, I am sure it will be great. :thumbup:

If we go with a large pattern, my vote goes to the largest. A super sized easy open GEC Whaler pattern with a single wharncliffe blade that we call " The Leviathan." :eek::D
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These two posts touch on a couple of points that seem rather important, and ought to be addressed first in any discussion of any new BF produced knife;

1.) It will be required that whatever pattern/design chosen be large enough to accommodate the current BF tang stamp.
2.) We will try to produce a knife pattern that isn't a common, "off the shelf" existing pattern, but instead, something unique or a bit different from anything currently available.

Am I way off base on the above two "traditional ideas behind the BF knife"? Are these two things that we want to be at the forefront in the minds of all who participate in the design discussions and eventual polls that will take places?

Are there any other "traditions" that we have followed with all of the other BF knives that have been produced that we should keep in mind (no repeats of previous years, cost to be kept at or below $100, etc.)

Some basic traditional guide lines might be helpful.

ON EDIt: A third tradition comes to mind; 3.) One pattern will be produced without individual options (they'll all be the same, no options on different scale colors, blade configurations etc.).
 
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I have no problem with a dark purple knife. I also have no problem with an acrylic- or micarta-handled knife either. Everyone has differences in opinion, but I don't understand why it seems that a bunch of people have pounced on Judy for suggesting a purple knife. If you don't like the idea, say so, but don't make an issue out of it.

I thought the whole point of the forum knife was to come up with something special that the majority of people with interest could be happy with. If it's out of the ordinary and stands out in a crowd, even better. And keep it in the vicinity of $100. The more civil we are about this, the more likely someone is to volunteer their time to wrangle all these cats.
 
timcsaw said:
These two posts touch on a couple of points that seem rather important, and ought to be addressed first in any discussion of any new BF produced knife;

1.) It will be required that whatever pattern/design chosen be large enough to accommodate the current BF tang stamp.
2.) We will try to produce a knife pattern that isn't a common, "off the shelf" existing pattern, but instead, something unique or a bit different from anything currently available.

Am I way off base on the above two "traditional ideas behind the BF knife"? Are these two things that we want to be at the forefront in the minds of all who participate in the design discussions and eventual polls that will take places?

Are there any other "traditions" that we have followed with all of the other BF knives that have been produced that we should keep in mind (no repeats of previous years, cost to be kept at or below $100, etc.)

Some basic traditional guide lines might be helpful.
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Hear, Hear!!
 
wintermute said:
Hear, Hear!!
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3.) One pattern will be produced without individual options (they'll all be the same, no options on different scale colors, blade configurations etc.).

Any others?

And seriously to Judy, I could live with a dark grape/purple if that were the will of the people. GEC's "purple" isn't terrible but I'm one of those who really likes the colors and textures provided in natural materials... I like the way the stag or ram got naturally "jiggy with it".:D
 
NO Purple please. Not to be disrespectful, but that is not a color that I see on a traditional knofe , at least not on one that I own. Steven
 
Wow. One vote for purple, 50 times.

Let me, then, be the first to propose that we handle our Traditional Forum knife in chartreuse. It is just as garish as purple, except without the socio-political connotations and invitations-to-Barney-comparisons. :D

Or we could handle the Traditional Forum Knife in a traditional coloration. Whatever. ;)
 
Ladies and gents, lets play nice.
 
jazub said:
Wow. One vote for purple, 50 times.

Let me, then, be the first to propose that we handle our Traditional Forum knife in chartreuse. It is just as garish as purple, except without the socio-political connotations and invitations-to-Barney-comparisons. :D

Or we could handle the Traditional Forum Knife in a traditional coloration. Whatever. ;)
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:DI'm honestly not too fond of ANY color thats named after stuff that ISN'T a REAL color... you know, like peach, egg shell, almond, eggplant, grape, lavender, bubble gum, camel, cinnamon, banana, coffee, rose, salmon etc. etc. (for a complete list of so-called "colors" that ain't, look here... Android green!? What the heck does android green look like?:eek:)

If it's a smell or you eat it it ISN'T a color! (Well... except for orange... yer' kinda' stuck with orange I guess):D
 
I am a very open minded guy and will consider almost anything that people suggest. After being open minded and considering purple, my choice considering all the other choices we might have, would be no to purple. But I would be very open minded to other suggestions and have really enjoyed reading everyone's ideas.
 
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