2013 Forum knife?

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You guys are just amazing. Those Queens are beautiful.

Yes, it does.

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Have you ever checked GEC's production totals on their website? I wouldn't even guess they made several hundred more of the same pattern. 250 is the most they've made of any pattern with a single cover material.

Yes, yes I have. And I can count. Pattern's don't differ just because the scales do. I counted over 1000 made to the same pattern (with changes to scales, blade grind, etc) in less than 6 months since introduced. I expect they will make more of the same pattern over the years. Your "guess" is proved wrong by your own statement (250 x {number of scale materials} = "several" hundred).

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as long as there are people who commit to buying the majority of them upfront

This is why we nearly didn't have a knife last year, and may not this year. ALL the knives need to be pre-sold. The only way this type of project is viable is for someone to pay for it up front. Any unsold knives become a liablity to whoever fronts this project. However, if you are willing to put up the $20,000+ required I'll bow out.

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Everyone who wants a Forum knife should be able to afford one.

Agreed. Everyone "should" be able to afford one. I believe that everyone on this forum can afford $10/month, and let's face it; that's what the last few BF Traditional Forum knives have cost. What I object to is cheapening the final product for those who cannot plan, save, work, or sacrifice to get something they "want". It's been my experience that something everyone can get with no sacrifice is something nobody wants.

Style, material, cost; not cost, material, style. One gets you a Ferrari - the other a Yugo.
 
I'll throw some money in the pot right now if that is what it takes.
(to say I'd be willing to promise to buy or prebuy a couple of knives for a theoretical price)
 
I wonder if a full length spear would work? There may be some clearance issues on a single spring knife. A long thin pen blade would be pretty sweet on the pattern if it would fit. I will disagree with you on the bone though, Ted. If we are going to go with an existing pattern, I'd rather have some fancy scales. We've had bone the last two years.

Yes, it does.

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Queen / S&M really know how to do Winterbottom jigging
I have not seen it else where
It is very special

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And this is a 3 1/4" knife
So that is how fine they can do Winterbottom jigging

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Here is a nice 4" pattern. Like a congress it has opposing blades on a single spring. Schrade Cut Co called this a Texas Jack. They also did a version with this same clip blade, and a pen blade, pivoting on one end, like a conventional Jack and called it a Texas Jack.
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I asked GEC about this one, and they are enthusiastic about doing a large serpentine pattern, and would certainly cooperate, as in the past two years, with making it first as our forum knife!
I thought that was kinda cool!!

I want to bump this one up again from Charlie since I can't stop thinking about it. I like the idea of a single spring more and more, and the serpentine style frame has always been one of my favorites. As long as the size stays at 4" or less this would be my first pick, with a Congress frame second, preferably a jack style like the one shown by Eisman:

Congress Jacks look good with brown scales too. Note that the Jack actually gets a longer cutting edge into the same frame vs. normal or half Congress.

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I love a nice Congress and have a few, but the Schrade style Texas Jack really grabs me as I have nothing like it.
 
I want to bump this one up again from Charlie since I can't stop thinking about it. I like the idea of a single spring more and more, and the serpentine style frame has always been one of my favorites. As long as the size stays at 4" or less this would be my first pick, with a Congress frame second, preferably a jack style like the one shown by Eisman:

I love a nice Congress and have a few, but the Schrade style Texas Jack really grabs me as I have nothing like it.

My thoughts as well.
 
I want to bump this one up again from Charlie since I can't stop thinking about it. I like the idea of a single spring more and more, and the serpentine style frame has always been one of my favorites. As long as the size stays at 4" or less this would be my first pick...

My thoughts exactly - thanks ;)
 
I want to bump this one up again from Charlie since I can't stop thinking about it. I like the idea of a single spring more and more, and the serpentine style frame has always been one of my favorites.

I love a nice Congress and have a few, but the Schrade style Texas Jack really grabs me as I have nothing like it.

I'm starting to lean the way of a nice Serpentine Texas Jack frame as well, it really does catch my eye!
 
Yes, yes I have. And I can count. Pattern's don't differ just because the scales do. I counted over 1000 made to the same pattern (with changes to scales, blade grind, etc) in less than 6 months since introduced. I expect they will make more of the same pattern over the years. Your "guess" is proved wrong by your own statement (250 x {number of scale materials} = "several" hundred).

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This is why we nearly didn't have a knife last year, and may not this year. ALL the knives need to be pre-sold. The only way this type of project is viable is for someone to pay for it up front. Any unsold knives become a liablity to whoever fronts this project. However, if you are willing to put up the $20,000+ required I'll bow out.

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Agreed. Everyone "should" be able to afford one. I believe that everyone on this forum can afford $10/month, and let's face it; that's what the last few BF Traditional Forum knives have cost. What I object to is cheapening the final product for those who cannot plan, save, work, or sacrifice to get something they "want". It's been my experience that something everyone can get with no sacrifice is something nobody wants.

Style, material, cost; not cost, material, style. One gets you a Ferrari - the other a Yugo.

Have you participated in bringing any of the prior forum knives to the table? Why are you so concerned about the knife holding its value? Are you going to use it (in which case it won't hold its value) or are you going to buy one to resell it to another forum member for a profit (because nobody outside of this forum will pay big bucks for a "BF" knife when they get the same pattern from GEC in a month). Are you going to make assumptions about what every forum member can afford, or just the majority of them? Man...talk about bringing a little attitude to the discussion. It's crap like this that makes it harder for the committee members to do their jobs (assuming there is a 2013 knife and a committee is chosen). I wish people would just limit their discussion to patterns they like instead of taking jabs at other members and bringing up issues that aren't their concern. Since you seem to have such a vested interest in these maters, I am sure you will be the first person to volunteer for the committee if we have a knife this year.
 
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Hi,

I honestly admit I'm not a big fan of larger patterns. I do prefer my knives under 3 3/4". I'm still leaning to a Congress. A half Congress with some of that winterbottom bone would be a treat in the hand. Though that Congress Jack looks interesting. I could go for a sheep's foot and a coping blade on a regular Congress. Maybe swap the Sheep's foot for a Wharnie on the Jack version with a fancy wood like snakewood. Sorry Ted, I can't really get into a razor blade.

Dale
 
Here's a Queen Half Congress in Winterbottom Bonein the mix with my other Queen Winterbottom Bone knives.

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What about a lock-back sodbuster???? Oh yea..........

I don't know if you've noticed this but this is the Half Congress thread, you've obviously posted this in the wrong thread I believe the Sodbuster thread's two forums over. ;) :)
 
I want to bump this one up again from Charlie since I can't stop thinking about it. I like the idea of a single spring more and more, and the serpentine style frame has always been one of my favorites. As long as the size stays at 4" or less this would be my first pick, with a Congress frame second, preferably a jack style like the one shown by Eisman:

I must have missed that one. I would definitely purchase a large serpentine Jack, as long as it stay around 4".
Love that blade combo too, long nail pull and everything.:thumbup:
 
I want to bump this one up again from Charlie since I can't stop thinking about it. I like the idea of a single spring more and more, and the serpentine style frame has always been one of my favorites. As long as the size stays at 4" or less this would be my first pick, with a Congress frame second, preferably a jack style like the one shown by Eisman:



I love a nice Congress and have a few, but the Schrade style Texas Jack really grabs me as I have nothing like it.

This is the Queen #9 frame single spring Muskrat with rounded bolsters
Notice how the second blade is wider, becuase of the curve of the serpentine frame

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And this S&M is only 3 1/2"
Again single spring

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Yes, single-spring is my target for this year's knife (or single-blade) As I've written before, they would be something that hasn't been done before and they are certainly pocket friendly knives.

The Queen style Winterbottom Bone really attracts as well. If GEC were able to produce WB like that with THICK handles, deep jig , nice contrast between cream yellow and black, well that would be IT for me at least. The Half Congress look fantastic with such bone (no real need for shield either) or a Swell End Barehead with single blade (swedges) Spear, Clip, or Lambsfoot, Rat Tail bolster.

It's good to discus all these options but until/unless we get a green light in terms of the financing etc it's all theoretical. Theorize on.

Thanks, Will
 
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