2020 GEC#47 VIPER RUN

joeradza said:
It's not that hard guys. Sign up with one or two dealers. When the drop is scheduled sign in to the dealer and make sure all your details are correct either credit card or PayPal (keep that page open too). That's it.
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Its obviously not that easy...theyre literally selling out in 15 seconds out or less. Also that plan only works for scheduled drops. I dont have too much room to complain; I've been lucky to snag 2 mustangs and 1 viper because like the other looneys here, im willing to refresh over and over and over. But lets be perfectly clear, it really isnt that easy for the average person.
 
I agree bots are probably used for a number of the purchases. They are being used all over the web for popular items in an attempt to flip said item. A popular modern knife manufacturer caught well over 40,000 bot attempts to buy knives during their defects sale.

Hopefully GEC starts increasing production on popular patterns, and stops doing the limited runs. If not, I'll just find other knives to collect. As others have stated, it isn't worth the headache.
 
joeradza said:
It's not that hard guys. Sign up with one or two dealers. When the drop is scheduled sign in to the dealer and make sure all your details are correct either credit card or PayPal (keep that page open too). That's it.
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Which purveyors have scheduled drops and where are they posting this info? I'm haunting the usual places and it seems random AF to me, but I'm obviously missing something. Spending the week refreshing 4-5 pages makes me question my entire life.
 
joeradza said:
It's not that hard guys. Sign up with one or two dealers. When the drop is scheduled sign in to the dealer and make sure all your details are correct either credit card or PayPal (keep that page open too). That's it.
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I'll wager you won't find one dealer that is soliciting signups for GEC knives..... If there were, you'd go the end of a mile long list with no hope of getting a knife..... Of the dealer(s) that offer a reserve spot, getting that spot has to occur within seconds..... So whether you go for a knife, or reserve spot, it has become an exercise in futility.....
 
I used to get frustrated with GEC because they make so few knives in stainless steel. The past couple years or so I've been kind of glad that this is the case. It keeps me from wanting most GEC's and I can sit back and relax.

I still like to watch the Northwoods drops though. Just watching them disappear so quickly is almost as much fun as buying one.
 
Are there people actually programming bots specifically for certain GEC dealer sites? Is the payoff there? Just out of curiosity I did a search and the first bots that popped up seem to be programmed for specific stores. It seems to me a bot would need to be tailored to each specific site to navigate the specific checkout process. I know Mike ( knifeswapper knifeswapper ) has commented on this (bots) before. I'm curious how he/websites/store owners can tell. I know it was suggested by Spyderco (they are a supporting company are they not?) that most of the server horsepower went to blocking said bots (not traffic/transactions) during the seconds sale this year. Sorry for going so far off topic. This fascinates me.

Back on topic:
The stag 47 has been posted awhile now. Any bets on when the dealers will receive/ship? After the new year?
 
ArchVV said:
Which purveyors have scheduled drops and where are they posting this info? I'm haunting the usual places and it seems random AF to me, but I'm obviously missing something. Spending the week refreshing 4-5 pages makes me question my entire life.
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They are nice knives for sure, and if I can pick one up sometime at a price I’m willing to pay, great, I will do it. But, in my opinion, they aren’t worth what you have to go through to get them on a drop. If I get a notification and my phone is in my hand, sure I’ll play, if not, then it is just a knife and there are several brands I like as much and are WAY easier to get. Just my opinion, for whatever it’s worth.
 
nickvnlr said:
Are there people actually programming bots specifically for certain GEC dealer sites? Is the payoff there? Just out of curiosity I did a search and the first bots that popped up seem to be programmed for specific stores. It seems to me a bot would need to be tailored to each specific site to navigate the specific checkout process. I know Mike ( knifeswapper knifeswapper ) has commented on this (bots) before. I'm curious how he/websites/store owners can tell. I know it was suggested by Spyderco (they are a supporting company are they not?) that most of the server horsepower went to blocking said bots (not traffic/transactions) during the seconds sale this year. Sorry for going so far off topic. This fascinates me.

Back on topic:
The stag 47 has been posted awhile now. Any bets on when the dealers will receive/ship? After the new year?
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For the most part I think bots for buying knives are more of a loose theory than anything actual. This is somewhat my area of expertise from a previous life and I don't see it. I mean a browser plugin that watches for changes to a specific page (i.e. Early Reserves) is one thing; but actually completing a transaction is a bit far-fetched. I have noticed that people anticipate when a new product will go onto the ERS and put "watchers" on the page that refresh every few seconds. They are easy to spot and even easier to block the ip address - which would be counter productive to those so inclined. But those that are successful have dedicated a minimal amount of time learning each dealers process and habits. For example, Apple Pay is really beneficial at some places. It is somewhat like the saying of doing it smarter rather than harder. I envision some folks chugging coffee and developing head-tics scrambling to catch a drop while others are calmly buying their knives. Kinda like the old story of the young bull and the old bull sitting on a hill.
 
joeradza said:
It's not that hard guys. Sign up with one or two dealers. When the drop is scheduled sign in to the dealer and make sure all your details are correct either credit card or PayPal (keep that page open too). That's it.
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This is how it's done. If people were using bots there would be a lot less of us that actually get knives.
 
Yesterday I missed out on a drop and commented on here that I need to get my hands on one of these 47s. Well shortly after I posted, I decided to call a few GEC dealers and one fellow told me they were dropping ironwoods in less than 5 min. I hung up and feverishly started refreshing and was able to snag one. I am not an internet savant by any means. Sometimes a simple phone call may help get you one of these fine knives. Every knife dealer I have talked to has been extremely helpful. Moral of the story - building relationships helps.
 
Unfortunately most of the drops tend to happen when I’m at work. I might end up caving and going paying the mark up for an ironwood or stag if I miss out completely. Keep the pictures coming, these are nice knives :)
 
DavidV81 said:
Unfortunately most of the drops tend to happen when I’m at work. I might end up caving and going paying the mark up for an ironwood or stag if I miss out completely. Keep the pictures coming, these are nice knives :)
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Admittedly it may be more hassle than you deem it worth - but do you not have family or friends that could keep an eye out for you?
 
It seems like if I try hard I usually get them, if its casual looking I usually dont. A lot of it depends on what is going on in my world. Probably best for practical purposes if I dont buy every one.
 
ArchVV said:
Which purveyors have scheduled drops and where are they posting this info? I'm haunting the usual places and it seems random AF to me, but I'm obviously missing something. Spending the week refreshing 4-5 pages makes me question my entire life.
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I think many of us have already questioned our lives like that, and have opted out of the frenzy. Face it.... GEC's have become like tickets to major events. Buy them from the scalpers, or don't get 'em.

edit:.... there's life after GEC, you know. LOTS of other knife makers out there. If the demand for them drops off, the prices will follow.
 
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