2024 Remington Bullet Knife

Yeah, think I saw something about that when bought my first Moore Maker at a local hardware store in Texas years ago. Also pretty sure I saw Moore Maker on those prototypes. If that is the case about them not making their own knives, I still wouldn't say Bear and Sons on this one because mainly due to the high price. Bear and Sons knives are not that expensive. Another reason is that the first Queen USA (when Bear made them) knives are not close to as good as they are now. Maybe Cooper or somebody else is making this knife and possibly Moore Maker knives too.

Either way, will probably wait on the GEC Remington Bullet when it comes out instead of paying $150 for the 2024 Waterfowler. Love the Granddaddy Barlow from last year!
 
PointyThings said:
And Boker
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Camillus also made a whole lot of knives for MM....


Ogreman said:
I still wouldn't say Bear and Sons on this one because mainly due to the high price. Bear and Sons knives are not that expensive.
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Maybe not, but they aren't selling the knives, SMKW is, and if they think they can get $150 for a $50 knife, thats what they will do....
 
birdsbeaks said:
(what the heck happened to 2023, btw?)
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Quoting my own post here, because it seems this question has finally been answered - though, perhaps not in the way I'd been hoping.

Talk of a 2023 Remington Bullet Hawkbill Pruner had visions of a GEC #47 Harvester with bone covers and a silver bullet shield dancing in my head. If that had been the offering, even though I already own two #47 Harvesters, it would've been an easy pick up. Instead, this was announced today:

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Looks like a Bear & Son creation, and after my experience with B&S's 2022 Bullet Knife - I believe I'll pass on this one.

Sometimes I think that GEC is the only extant cutlery firm that knows what a bullet looks like. I don't know how you'd go about cutting a chamber for the "bullet" shown on this knife, but I wouldn't be firing it in any case.

Not trying to bash any American traditional manufacturers, but compared to my 2022 Remington Granddaddy Barlow (my 2023 KotY, btw), this looks like a somewhat amateur attempt.

Alas - maybe next year. 😓
 
Matt_WY said:
That may still be coming.
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Good point. In 2022, I fell into the B&S Remington bullet knife trap which preceded the release of the GEC-made Remington Granddaddy Barlow. I suppose the only bright spot was that having them both provided an opportunity to compare the design sensibilities and craftsmanship of both manufacturers side by side.

At this rate of release, maybe we'll see the 2023 GEC version released in 2025. 🤣
 
Ogreman said:
Hmmmm, I think another possibility could be Moore Maker for making this knife. The price on this 2024 is way too much for most of Bear and Son's knives and I think Moore Maker is making the new Queen USA knives for SMKW because have a few Moore Makers and saw Moore Maker on a prototype video for those.
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black mamba said:
Unless a recent change, Moore Maker never made their own knives. Queen and Bear & Sons were the makers of Moore Maker knives.
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PointyThings said:
And Boker
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And Camillus and Canal Street.
At one time Moore Maker had an article on their website which discussed that while they did make some of the other tools they sold, they contracted out the knives.
 
birdsbeaks said:
Quoting my own post here, because it seems this question has finally been answered - though, perhaps not in the way I'd been hoping.

Talk of a 2023 Remington Bullet Hawkbill Pruner had visions of a GEC #47 Harvester with bone covers and a silver bullet shield dancing in my head. If that had been the offering, even though I already own two #47 Harvesters, it would've been an easy pick up. Instead, this was announced today:

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Looks like a Bear & Son creation, and after my experience with B&S's 2022 Bullet Knife - I believe I'll pass on this one.

Sometimes I think that GEC is the only extant cutlery firm that knows what a bullet looks like. I don't know how you'd go about cutting a chamber for the "bullet" shown on this knife, but I wouldn't be firing it in any case.

Not trying to bash any American traditional manufacturers, but compared to my 2022 Remington Granddaddy Barlow (my 2023 KotY, btw), this looks like a somewhat amateur attempt.

Alas - maybe next year. 😓
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There is at least one GEC dealer listing this as GEC made.

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Alex.Y. said:
They are obviously mistaken. Same dealer listed an old Remington as GEC not too long ago, wich couldn't be a GEC by any means.
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Good point, I just noticed they are also a Bear and Son dealer as well.
 
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For what it’s worth, here are photos of both shields. The shape of the blade is different than the GEC version. The jigging does not look like GEC jigging to me.

There must be something behind the statement, “the one that got away.” Anyway, this is interesting and a great mystery to solve. I am sure someone here will figure out what is going on.

However, F FloydMorrison , if the retail price was only $99, I am certain it is not a GEC. Must be a Bear.

I have also heard rumors that there could be a different version of a GEC made Remington Granddaddy Barlow this year, perhaps with a different bolster.

Whoever is calling the shots on the current Remingtons is not doing a service to the historic brand. They seem to be only out to make a buck without regard for anything else. They are creating confusion for both current and future collectors who will wonder why there is such a vast difference in quality between certain models. They should have just stuck with GEC if they really cared about perpetuating the grand Remington tradition.

Alternating between a well done GEC version and a not well done Bear version is not good for the GEC brand either for that matter. Some people will wrongly assume that GEC made the lesser quality Bear versions.
 
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There is at least one GEC dealer listing this as GEC made.

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I purchased one of these "GEC made" Remington Hawkbill knives last night from this specific dealer (Northwest Knife Company) for $99, without really giving it too much thought, because of FOMO and "GEC"... LOL! It was only after the fact that I began to question whether this was really a GEC made knife, so I started to do a bit of research, which lead me here to this thread. I began to question this Pruner, because the jigging and color on the bone covers certainly doesn't look like anything that GEC has done before. If anything, it kinda resembles the covers on the Case Tony Bose Chestnut Bone Wharncliffe Trapper that I had. The bullet shield, however, does closely resemble the shield on the GEC Remington Baby Bullet and the GEC Remington Grandaddy Cowboy Barlow (minus the "Sterling" text on the Cowboy), so I guess I won't know for sure until I have it in hand. It's not worth it to me to cancel the order, and it is a cool looking, kinda wacky Hawkbill knife, so I guess I'll just wait until I receive it to make a final determination on just exactly who made it. But, if I had to guess at this very moment..it sure is looking like a Bear & Sons produced knife! FML!! I'll take photos and post them in this thread once I get the knife. If it is a GEC made knife...GREAT! But if it's not..it will be pretty obvious after handling it for a few seconds. I've got over 70 GECs, and the feel in hand is unmistakable. So if it is indeed a Bear & Sons knife, at least someone else (who actually took the time to research the knife before purchasing...unlike me!) will know that this knife, as advertised by Northwest Knife Company as being made by GEC, is NOT, in fact a GEC knife!!! LOL. I'll throw up detailed pics once I get the knife..
 
The dealership site list the knife as 4 inches long . GEC lists their 47 as 3 7/8 inches . The blades look very different . The Pinning of the GEC 47's is very different . I very much doubt that this Hawkbill was made by GEC .

Harry
 
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