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3 knife survial pack
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Valiant golok
Mora
SAK Farmer
+1 on staking my life on a Mora
Mora
SAK Farmer
+1 on staking my life on a Mora
Well, since I can have any knife I could possibly want in this scenario:
1. Busse FBM
2. Bark River Bravo 1
3. Leatherman Wave
If I could only chose from ones I already own it'd be a little different:
1. Rusty old 14" Tramontina Bolo (only thing I have >6")
2. Swamp Rat M6
3. Busse Active Duty or Game Warden
1. Busse FBM
2. Bark River Bravo 1
3. Leatherman Wave
If I could only chose from ones I already own it'd be a little different:
1. Rusty old 14" Tramontina Bolo (only thing I have >6")
2. Swamp Rat M6
3. Busse Active Duty or Game Warden
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seems like you're very keen on survival as you've posted many threads on survival and camp knives.
where abouts in lower canada are you located? just outta curiosity. i live in bc and go hiking and camping on a fairly regular basis. that said i'm no survival guru but i have tried to hone survival skills when/if i'll ever have to use them.
as for my three it'd probably be the following:
gransfor bruks small forest axe,
grohmann #4
wegner ranger #57
if i had to replace the axe with a knife it'd either be my WWII kukri from H.I. or my RTAK from ontario knives.
"I personaly don't think a mora can be depended on with your life ya there nice knifes for cheap but WITH YOUR LIFE!"
a mora may be a cheap knife but i'm sure there are some people out there who have used it for survival, i recall one of the members here (i think it was bearthedog) who went on a trip to the jungle with the RAT team who was using a mora.
people have survived for hundreds of years using tools made of rock and bones so i'm sure a mora would be adequate for those who possess the necessary skills to survive.
the knives you've listed that you're getting for christmas seems to be changing frequently over time:
#1 Busse Game Warden
#2 Chris Reeves Shadow IV
#3 Fallkniven A1
IIRC you were getting a couple ka-bars as well, seems like you've been a good boy and santa's being pretty nice
hopefully he'll be able to get those knives for ya cause i think the game warden would be a bit hard to track down.
i think if you're wanting to start survival skills you should get one knife and learn to handle and use it well first before you start wanting to carry a buncha knives at a time.
"ya but nice knives cant hurt but may be take up weight..."
nice knives are great to have and yes there is a possibility that they will take up more weight in your pack. in a survival situation i think it'd be best to be carrying a lower weight of necessary items rather then carrying a heap of things i dont need, hence where the use of your survival knowledge comes in.
"and if you had to do everything with just a mora and a small blade its going to pe pretty bad if your mora fails after weeks of use and the preveuse use you did with it as home. ive seen some pictures to that show a very thin tang i dont know if thats on all their models but that thin metal isnt going to be ideal for survival..."
i'm not sure about the thickness of a mora. I've handled a few and own two myself. in my opinion they are similar in thickness to other knives i own in the same size. the thinness of the blade and the scandi grind thats on it makes it a very nice slicer, perfect IMO for making feather sticks to start a fire. also i believe some of the moras have a full-tang in them which would make the knife fairly durable. i've seen some expensive knives on the forum such as a cold steel recon scout fail (snap at the hand guard) in the woods.
do you go out into the woods/wilderness often? i think the best way to survive a survival situation is by trying not to put yourself in one in the first place. I know nothing is perfect and shit will happen but with proper knowledge, training, and preparation i think alot of situations can be avoided.
just throwing in my 2 cents.
cheers
where abouts in lower canada are you located? just outta curiosity. i live in bc and go hiking and camping on a fairly regular basis. that said i'm no survival guru but i have tried to hone survival skills when/if i'll ever have to use them.
as for my three it'd probably be the following:
gransfor bruks small forest axe,
grohmann #4
wegner ranger #57
if i had to replace the axe with a knife it'd either be my WWII kukri from H.I. or my RTAK from ontario knives.
"I personaly don't think a mora can be depended on with your life ya there nice knifes for cheap but WITH YOUR LIFE!"
a mora may be a cheap knife but i'm sure there are some people out there who have used it for survival, i recall one of the members here (i think it was bearthedog) who went on a trip to the jungle with the RAT team who was using a mora.
people have survived for hundreds of years using tools made of rock and bones so i'm sure a mora would be adequate for those who possess the necessary skills to survive.
the knives you've listed that you're getting for christmas seems to be changing frequently over time:
#1 Busse Game Warden
#2 Chris Reeves Shadow IV
#3 Fallkniven A1
IIRC you were getting a couple ka-bars as well, seems like you've been a good boy and santa's being pretty nice
hopefully he'll be able to get those knives for ya cause i think the game warden would be a bit hard to track down.i think if you're wanting to start survival skills you should get one knife and learn to handle and use it well first before you start wanting to carry a buncha knives at a time.
"ya but nice knives cant hurt but may be take up weight..."
nice knives are great to have and yes there is a possibility that they will take up more weight in your pack. in a survival situation i think it'd be best to be carrying a lower weight of necessary items rather then carrying a heap of things i dont need, hence where the use of your survival knowledge comes in.
"and if you had to do everything with just a mora and a small blade its going to pe pretty bad if your mora fails after weeks of use and the preveuse use you did with it as home. ive seen some pictures to that show a very thin tang i dont know if thats on all their models but that thin metal isnt going to be ideal for survival..."
i'm not sure about the thickness of a mora. I've handled a few and own two myself. in my opinion they are similar in thickness to other knives i own in the same size. the thinness of the blade and the scandi grind thats on it makes it a very nice slicer, perfect IMO for making feather sticks to start a fire. also i believe some of the moras have a full-tang in them which would make the knife fairly durable. i've seen some expensive knives on the forum such as a cold steel recon scout fail (snap at the hand guard) in the woods.
do you go out into the woods/wilderness often? i think the best way to survive a survival situation is by trying not to put yourself in one in the first place. I know nothing is perfect and shit will happen but with proper knowledge, training, and preparation i think alot of situations can be avoided.
just throwing in my 2 cents.
cheers
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BG,
First off, I don't think you will be disappointed with any one of the knives you have chosen...
Second, if I had to choose right now to fit in with your criteria, out of my options, I would grab the following:
Cold Steel Trailmaster SMIII or CRK Project I (tough call)
Busse BATAC
Leatherman Wave II (although I recently came across the SAK Rescue model and that caught my eye due to the longer saw. The scales are also neon yellow, which would make it easier to find if dropped.)
Its a fun exercise although if was really going into a totally isolated area, I would pack my Gransfors Small Forest Axe as well. I could fell a mid-sized tree with it, if necessary, no problemo.
I don't think three knives are necessary. One large and one small would be plenty. Weight and space saving is a major criteria if hiking out. For example, the skeletonised version of the GW, wrapped with paracord, will give you all the cutting power of the original, but weigh a lot less. You could feasibly wear it around your neck, for ready access.
Unfortunately, the Busse line-up is not readily available, though if you have the cash, there's always stuff going on the Exchange. Personally, I think the version with the orange handles and satin finish is the one to get. But that's me ; )
For a young fellow, you have expensive tastes my friend! Whatever happens, consider the SAK (Swiss Army Knife) line-up. For the money, they are outstanding tools. As I said earlier, I'm eying the Rescue model myself right now.
Mark
First off, I don't think you will be disappointed with any one of the knives you have chosen...
Second, if I had to choose right now to fit in with your criteria, out of my options, I would grab the following:
Cold Steel Trailmaster SMIII or CRK Project I (tough call)
Busse BATAC
Leatherman Wave II (although I recently came across the SAK Rescue model and that caught my eye due to the longer saw. The scales are also neon yellow, which would make it easier to find if dropped.)
Its a fun exercise although if was really going into a totally isolated area, I would pack my Gransfors Small Forest Axe as well. I could fell a mid-sized tree with it, if necessary, no problemo.
I don't think three knives are necessary. One large and one small would be plenty. Weight and space saving is a major criteria if hiking out. For example, the skeletonised version of the GW, wrapped with paracord, will give you all the cutting power of the original, but weigh a lot less. You could feasibly wear it around your neck, for ready access.
Unfortunately, the Busse line-up is not readily available, though if you have the cash, there's always stuff going on the Exchange. Personally, I think the version with the orange handles and satin finish is the one to get. But that's me ; )
For a young fellow, you have expensive tastes my friend! Whatever happens, consider the SAK (Swiss Army Knife) line-up. For the money, they are outstanding tools. As I said earlier, I'm eying the Rescue model myself right now.
Mark
1) Fiskars 14" hatchet. The big knife's job is to be a chopper anyway. If I *HAVE* to pick a knife, a HI 18" Ang Khola.
2) Fällkniven S1
3) Some variety of carbon steel Mora. I have an SL-1, but I suspect either the 510 or 740-MG I have coming in the mail would be more suitable, just due to the wood handle. I
As to the idea that I'll lose a knife if I drop it... That's why they put lanyard holes on knives.
2) Fällkniven S1
3) Some variety of carbon steel Mora. I have an SL-1, but I suspect either the 510 or 740-MG I have coming in the mail would be more suitable, just due to the wood handle. I
As to the idea that I'll lose a knife if I drop it... That's why they put lanyard holes on knives.
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As to the idea that I'll lose a knife if I drop it... That's why they put lanyard holes on knives.
nice one
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Well, since most classify them as knives. . .
1.) 20" HI Chiruwa Ang Khola kukri kind of like this:
2.) & 3.) would be served by this combo:
The puukko being 3 7/8" and the leuku coming in 1 inch over spec at 7"
Both the kukri and puukko/leuku set being designed for surviving in arctic conditions, should make for good use in any "really cold" environment?
1.) 20" HI Chiruwa Ang Khola kukri kind of like this:
2.) & 3.) would be served by this combo:
The puukko being 3 7/8" and the leuku coming in 1 inch over spec at 7"
Both the kukri and puukko/leuku set being designed for surviving in arctic conditions, should make for good use in any "really cold" environment?
Cpl, khukuri arn't actualy designed for Artic conditions, even 8,000 feet up in the Himalayas in Nepal its still pretty warm, however it does appear that they work very well in very cold conditions, ref prvious post.
Most khukuri are to be found in the hill /low Mountain villages, and in the Jungle area of Nepal, were the climate is generally nice and warm, and the Gurkhas are known to favour warm area war zones.
Most khukuri are to be found in the hill /low Mountain villages, and in the Jungle area of Nepal, were the climate is generally nice and warm, and the Gurkhas are known to favour warm area war zones.
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1. Busse Fusion Battle Mistress SE
2. Busse Anorexic Badger Attack #262
3. Busse Active Duty and/or Leaner Meaner
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Three knives only.
OK.
My Bonecutter Khukuri (eat your heart out, you can't get those anymore)
My own Nessmuk, or a Bushcrafter
A sak.
OK.
My Bonecutter Khukuri (eat your heart out, you can't get those anymore)
My own Nessmuk, or a Bushcrafter
A sak.
Not a bad list at all. A person who couldn't survive with those knives wouldn't survive if he had a log cabin and a good rifle on top of that. 
Probably wouldn't take three knives, though. Especially with the fall-between 4 to 6 incher, what's the point if you already have a smaller and a larger blade? If you're afraid of losing a knife, then try to make sure you don't. It's certainly doable in all but the most unlucky and unlikely circumstances - I've never lost a knife out in the wild, ever.
Probably wouldn't take three knives, though. Especially with the fall-between 4 to 6 incher, what's the point if you already have a smaller and a larger blade? If you're afraid of losing a knife, then try to make sure you don't. It's certainly doable in all but the most unlucky and unlikely circumstances - I've never lost a knife out in the wild, ever.
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Not a bad list at all. A person who couldn't survive with those knives wouldn't survive if he had a log cabin and a good rifle on top of that.
Probably wouldn't take three knives, though. Especially with the fall-between 4 to 6 incher, what's the point if you already have a smaller and a larger blade? If you're afraid of losing a knife, then try to make sure you don't. It's certainly doable in all but the most unlucky and unlikely circumstances - I've never lost a knife out in the wild, ever.
Thanks. Yea, my third knife is a tool kit. A Leatherman would substitute.
Yeah, I'm surprised that (relatively) few people listed a multitool. You can do all sorts of handy things with a SAK or a larger multitool, especially with regard to fixing "modern" equipment like zippers on tents and sleeping bags and what not. The original poster for some reason left out hatchets and axes - I don't know why. You went cleverly around that restriction with the khukuri! Those things chop and keep chopping.
I suppose a wish list trio for me would be:
GB Mini Hatchet or Wildlife
BRKT Aroura or Northstar
Queen Large Stockman
Not that I am unhappy with any of my other trios. All are fun and would handle anything that I could ask.
Ontario 12" Cutlass
RAT-3
Leatherman Wave
CS Trail Hawk
Russell Green River Hunter
Case Sodbuster
Norlund Camp Hatchet
Buck Big Sky
{insert slippie here, MM Muskrat, Boker Copperhead, Case Trapper...}
CS Bushman
Mora Clipper
GSAK OHT
tjg
GB Mini Hatchet or Wildlife
BRKT Aroura or Northstar
Queen Large Stockman
Not that I am unhappy with any of my other trios. All are fun and would handle anything that I could ask.
Ontario 12" Cutlass
RAT-3
Leatherman Wave
CS Trail Hawk
Russell Green River Hunter
Case Sodbuster
Norlund Camp Hatchet
Buck Big Sky
{insert slippie here, MM Muskrat, Boker Copperhead, Case Trapper...}
CS Bushman
Mora Clipper
GSAK OHT
tjg
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I think of multitools and knives as separate categories. Can I add a Leatherman?