4116 vs. 5Cr15MoV vs. 4034SS

[goldie]

They should just do small runs (like spydercos sprint runs)of the trailmaster,recon scout natchez and laredo in 52100, 5160 and similar steels and see how that goes;it would be worth it to do on your flagship models,and video and performance wise it will show its strength and durability.And you wouldnt need a massive amount of 1 particular steel. Save the junk steel for the economy knives that would then be acceptable.

 

[Smiling]

They should just do small runs (like spydercos sprint runs)of the trailmaster,recon scout natchez and laredo in 52100, 5160 and similar steels and see how that goes;it would be worth it to do on your flagship models,and video and performance wise it will show its strength and durability.And you wouldnt need a massive amount of 1 particular steel. Save the junk steel for the economy knives that would then be acceptable.

Yeah, but big profit is to sell a lowest end steel knife for at least mid range price. Also the costs they'll save on machining and polishing this soft steel...

 

[goldie]

^ Yeah i figured profit comes 1st i just hate to see that trailmaster and the others being made in such a low grade steel.Imagine if Busse announced a knife in 4034 ? Talk about crash and burn.

 

[Chris_Texas]

Yeah, but big profit is to sell a lowest end steel knife for at least mid range price. Also the costs they'll save on machining and polishing this soft steel...

Exactly. They aren't sticking these new Mallmasters in blister pack plastic and selling them for $19.95. They are claiming that 4034 is great steel-- which suggests that they plan to charge real money for these things and that they no longer care in the slightest about their customers or reputation.

 

[goldie]

Hey can we look forward to the AD20 in 4034 ? Joking aside if it does materialize im pretty sure itll be in s35vn.

 

[EatingSarma]

All sheaths dull the blade, some just do it quicker than others

Nothing does it as quickly as Secure-ex does. I intentionally cut into multiple things like kydex, hard plastic, leather and even old carpet and nothing dulls the knife even close to the way securex does.

 

[jbmonkey]

Exactly. They aren't sticking these new Mallmasters in blister pack plastic and selling them for $19.95. They are claiming that 4034 is great steel-- which suggests that they plan to charge real money for these things and that they no longer care in the slightest about their customers or reputation.

i came to see 4116 vs. 4034 and found a gem instead.....the term Mallmasters is making me chuckle. damn that was funny.

 

[DangerZone98]

i came to see 4116 vs. 4034 and found a gem instead.....the term Mallmasters is making me chuckle. damn that was funny.

Mailmaster works too. Ya know, only safe enough for opening the mail lol.

But I do hope these 4034 knives somehow surpass expectations. I shall await the reviews.

 

[Smiling]

Well, 4116 is nothing to write home about, but it still is a steel that is used in cutlery (pharmaceutical/surgery knives and kitchen knives mainly), it's stainless, tough, edge retention is not much at, but for a back-up, self defense or a knife you toss somewhere and forget about it - it's more than good.
This was an interesting read:
https://knifeuser.com/4116-stainless-steel-knife-review/

Ok, so 4116 is a cheap, low end steel mainly used for budget knives.
And load of CS knives (Pendleton Lite, Spike series, PeaceMakers...) were made in that budget steel and that's OK.

But to go even cheaper... no words.

 

[dogstar]

4116 is fine with me, 55-56 RC, easy to sharpen, good rust resistance, easy to mod.

 

[Bigfattyt]

4116 is fine with me, 55-56 RC, easy to sharpen, good rust resistance, easy to mod.

After this thread, I pulled out my Pocket Bushman in 4116, and I actually enjoy that knife. The steel is easy to sharpen, stain resistant and seems pretty tough.

I also have been enjoying a few Bucks in 420hc.

So I am not a steel snob. Sure I have many steels I prefer (cpm3v, 52100, infi in large choppers, 5160, etc).

I just can't see my self ploping down $$ on a trailmaster in the newly announced steel.

Honestly, it might be near as tough as 5160 (which i really love in larger knives, and actually make my own in it).

A Charpy notch test, torture test, and edge retention test done side by side with SK5, or other steels might help assure those who are stressed.

Many people think that the 1095 is really tough, but it is not, really. AEBL, 52100, 5160 (and other spring steels) cpm3v, and others are multiples of levels tougher.




Honestly my experience with Bucks 420hc has been a revelation from the standpoint of easily taking wicked sharp edges, and just being plain enjoyable to use.

AEBL or equivalent steel would totally be an option too. 52100 would be great as well. They are already making budget knives in this steel. So it seems strange they did not pivot towards 52100. If you give me a choice between 52100 and A2, I'm going to pick 52100 (even though I like A2).