5" Fixed blade for daily carry and backpacking

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Howdy, from the lone star state.

I'm a new backpacker and need a blade to take with me in the woods, since I'm looking to make an investment in a good knife I would also like to carry it with me daily. My basic requirements are that it is 1/4" plus or minus of 5" (state law requires the blade to be less than 5 1/2"), holds an edge and won't chip, reasonably thick, sharp, reliable in the bush, easy to maintain and sharpen - I'm definitely no master at that.

A couple of options I have come up with are the Fallkniven S1, RAT RC5. I did find some other comparable knives, but mostly they were 6" breaking my first requirement. The RC5 seems like it would be a beast in the woods, but it also seems like it would be a real workout to carry it around with me daily. I am partial to the S1, but the sheaths seem to be next to worthless, are there any good aftermarket sheaths available? I couldn't find any.

Any knives worth considering that I missed?

Nothing crazy expensive like a Busse please, I'm a college student so money is an object.

Thanks,

-Brandon

Edit: One thing I forgot to mention is that I am also looking for a full tang knife. And to expand on what I am looking for in a sheath, something semi-tactical that will give me a variety of lashing options (shoulder, waist, hip etc), zytel or some other kind of firm material, and fourteen pockets on the sheath won't be necessary... that's why I have a backpack--I just need the sheath to hold my knife.
 
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benchmade activator. but you already posted some really great ones, knowing what you want as you seem to do, is gonna save you alot of time.
 
Any particular reason you're looking for a 5" knife? That's a bit big for every day carry, or at least it would be for me.

I was going to suggest a BRKT Bravo-1, but that's 4.25" Hell of a knife, though. :)
 
I personally love my blindhorseknives.com bushcrafter, very versatile and includes a great sheath, check em out.
 
Ive got a few suggestions for you:
Bark River Aurora
Dozier Professional Guides Knife
Fallkniven NL4 Frej
Fehrman Last Chance

Ive got the Bark River Aurora and the NL4 Frej, but fully intend on adding the other two to my collection in the near future.

The_Guide :cool:
 
If you can afford the RC5, go for it.

If you can only spend about $60, the Becker BK2 Campanion is your man.

Greetings from a fellow Texan. I carry more than 5 1/2" blades when camping/hiking/what not outdoors. I have a lot of LEO friends, and according to them, most officers wont fine you if they see your + 5 1/2" blade plus other camping/backpacking gear. Just dont go walking around downtown Dallas with it (although thats not a bad idea) IMO a 1/4" thick blade may be too heavy for backpacking. You might go with a Rat Cutlery RC4 if that's the case with you.
 
As for after market sheaths, there are a number of places to get one custom made at reasonable prices. It seems to me that you want something made from Kydex. I love kydex sheaths as the grommets make it excellent for tying down in a large variety of ways. I use a bungee cord to tie it to my pack.

If I am wearing the sheath on my belt, leather is the way I go.
 
I'm a new backpacker and need a blade to take with me in the woods, since I'm looking to make an investment in a good knife I would also like to carry it with me daily. My basic requirements are that it is 1/4" plus or minus of 5" (state law requires the blade to be less than 5 1/2"), holds an edge and won't chip, reasonably thick, sharp, reliable in the bush, easy to maintain and sharpen - I'm definitely no master at that.

Edit: One thing I forgot to mention is that I am also looking for a full tang knife. And to expand on what I am looking for in a sheath, something semi-tactical that will give me a variety of lashing options (shoulder, waist, hip etc), zytel or some other kind of firm material, and fourteen pockets on the sheath won't be necessary... that's why I have a backpack--I just need the sheath to hold my knife.

Well, it sounds to me like you described exactly the RC5.

If you want something lighter, the RC-4 is their do-all outdoors knife with a 4" blade and what is possibly the most vesatile sheath on the market:
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The Bark River Bravo-1 has a 4.125" blade, and I think it comes with a kydex sheath like you want (or it is an option).

The Bark River Aurora is the perfect outdoors knife, IMO, but you'd have to have a sheath made for it if you want all kinds of options. The sheath it comes with is very nice, but is a leather sheath designed for vertical carry.
Aurora:
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Ive got a few suggestions for you:
Bark River Aurora
Dozier Professional Guides Knife
Fallkniven NL4 Frej
Fehrman Last Chance

Ive got the Bark River Aurora and the NL4 Frej, but fully intend on adding the other two to my collection in the near future.

The_Guide :cool:


+1 on this list
 
+1 on the Becker BK2, now from Kabar
http://www.southerntackle.com/proddetail.asp?prod=BK2
it's a pretty hefty knife but it fits your requirements and is a bargain for the $$. You can also sand down the handles to custom fit your hands.

The RC5 is excellent, and less bulky, but more than double the cost.

The S1, well it has a lot of fans but others (like me) find the handle to be too thin to be comfortable for extended periods of hard work.

you can also keep an eye out for deals on Swamp Rat knives here:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=804
you'll have to buy a sheath separately, but they are Busse designs mostly made out of terrific SR101 steel

I'd not heard of the Kabar Fin, it looks interesting
http://www.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/kbar/images/5554.jpg
 
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I would also like to carry it with me daily.
I guess I can understand the sentiment, but honestly I find fixed blades larger than a couple inches too large and cumbersome for true EDC. Plus, no matter what the letter of the law, and depending on where your "ever day" takes you, a sheathed fixed blade on your hip is much more likely to get you hassled than a folder in your pocket by both the law and misguided sheeple.

The RC5 seems like it would be a beast in the woods, but it also seems like it would be a real workout to carry it around with me daily.
I like RAT knives, but I agree that the RC5 is kind of on the chunky side. I know it's smaller than you were planning, but I would give serious consideration to the RC4. Its a great all purpose outdoors knife, and will do just about anything that its larger breatheren will.

Any knives worth considering that I missed?

I kind of like the Spyderco Dayhiker for a camp knife. It's 4.75 inches, klydex sheath and mycarta handle. Street price seems to run around $160 which makes it quite a bit more than the RATs but not too much more than the Fallkniven you were considering.
 
I often carry a Fallkniven S1 with the drop loop leather sheath. I use nylon zip ties to lash it vertically to the front of my shoulder strap.

The RAT knives are just a bit too chunky for me.
 
I live in the El Paso Area and am looking forward to the Spyderco Temperance II for carry, just under 5 inch blade overall length should be around 10 inches with a nice flat ground VG-10 blade.


RickJ
 
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Blira - what a nice and articulate post. You clearly did your homework and it is refreshing to see a recommendation post where people have narrowed down what they want in a knife by specs and usage patterns.

Many folks are recommending ratcutlery and they are good knives. I would strongly recommend for your situation to go with the RC-4. Its a bit smaller in length but a much better thickness for all around use. In truth, I tend to like 5" knives too, but a 4" knife is 95% as handy and a little bit more friendly. In fact, most backpacking/bushcraft knives are closer to 3.75-4.5" than 5".

There are several bark river models as well that would be very appropriate for you. They have the added quality of being beautiful while RC is functional/tactical. Depending on what people like, they go either way. Personally, I go both ways :D

I am going to go on a limb here and also recommend that you strongly consider a custom knife from one of the makers here on bladeforums. The advantage here is that you can have them make a knife exactly the length and thickness that you want, rather than what the company sells. Here are a couple of examples that I think are right up your alley.

Bryan Breeden - pathfinder (5" blade, 5" handle, O1 steel, 1/8" thickness, handle in orange G10). This one has a little wave to it, almost like a Cnd belt knife. It is one of the most handy knives I own! Bryan goes by the name Sicily02 on blade forums.

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Bryan Breeden peacemaker. This one has a 6" blade, but Bryan routinely makes them in 5" blade sizes. The one pictured is 1/8" O1 steel with osage orange handle (4.5" handle length).

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Here is another maker who has his own sub-forum in the Makers section of blade forum. His company's name is JK-handmade knives. John offers a variety of styles, but he is probably most famous for his classic Kephart knife. He also makes a mean nesmuk. The one I have was custom ordered in 4.5" blade length, 1095 steel and 1/8" thick. The handle is black mircata. John also does a variety of wood handles also.

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I've ordered 6 different knives from Bryan Breeden and 2 from JK-knives. I trust these guys very much for their professionalism, fit and finish and ability to deliver as promised and on time. They are also very reasonable with most of their knives costing between $110-$140 USD. Both of these makers a will customize the knife to your specs. JK's motto on his website is 'Your design or mine'.

I just received an excellent blade from 'Knives by Christof' who goes by the name Koyote here on the forums. Christof also has a sub-forum in the makers section. Christof's knives tend to be a bit thinner ranging from 3/32" to 1/8" and they all have a classic style to them. Don't let the thin stock fool you, these things are made to be used hard. He has several styles that are of 5" length, his full tang leuku pattern probably being the most popular. I just reviewed a knife I received from him this Friday. It is not what you are looking for, but the review speaks to the quality of his work. Christof also makes a really nice Nesmuk! Here was my review of one his knives: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=633097. There is also a passaround thread that reviews his full tang leuku that can be found in W&SS subforum.

Fiddleback Forge, Andy is the owner and he has his own sub-forum in the makers area. Andy is a bit unusual in that he doesn't take individual orders. He will set up an order forum on his website and people sign up then he makes the knives in batches. He also periodically offers knives on sale in the Makers section, under individual knives for sale. He has a model called 'The Woodsman' that is gorgeous and 5" blade perfect for bushcraft. Andy is famous for his duel wood handles and amazing ergonomics. Dan Koster uses the same formulae as Andy and also has his subforum.

Other notable makers. Brian Andrews (his company is called off-the-map outfitters). He makes an amazing full tang scandi with wonderful handles. You can find his website by google. Brian frequents W&SS and his handle is his full name.

DP-knives. He makes several camp models and is reasonably priced. I've only handled his knives before but they are high quality and can be had in a variety of woods for handles and different grinds including V-grind, convex or scandi.

Scott Gossman - his PSK senior model is a great and respected camp knife. Scott has his own sub-forum in the makers area.

David Farmer. David is sort of a sleeper maker, in that you see his knives pop up once in a while in the makers section. Universally every review I've seen of his work is extremely positive. He is known for hair whittling sharpness. David also has a very unique style to his blades. He has a website that can be found by googling them.

For some reason - most new users are very shy of getting into the custom knife world. I think part of it has to do with a pre-conception that custom knives are all very expensive. All of the makers I've listed above make great camp knives that can be had for <$200 and some less than $120. They are all friendly and respond to their e-mails readily and really enjoy talking about their product and making suggestions about what you might need in a knife based on what you are looking to do. For some of them, like Bryan Breeden, he'll get your custom knife to you sometimes within 2 weeks of making the order. JK-is also very fast from my ordering experience from him.

The other thing new users get worried about in custom makers is the quality. However, this can easily be addressed at the sub-forums by asking questions about an individual maker and requesting reviews of their products. Given the nature of your post, I'd like to invite you to come by the Wilderness & Survival Skills subforum: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=692&order=desc At W&SS we like nothing better than talking specifically about backpacking and wilderness applications for knives. Good luck on your knife hunting pursuit!
 
+1 on the Becker BK2, now from Kabar
http://www.southerntackle.com/proddetail.asp?prod=BK2
it's a pretty hefty knife but it fits your requirements and is a bargain for the $$. You can also sand down the handles to custom fit your hands.

The RC5 is excellent, and less bulky, but more than double the cost.

The S1, well it has a lot of fans but others (like me) find the handle to be too thin to be comfortable for extended periods of hard work.

you can also keep an eye out for deals on Swamp Rat knives here:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=804
you'll have to buy a sheath separately, but they are Busse designs mostly made out of terrific SR101 steel

I'd not heard of the Kabar Fin, it looks interesting
http://www.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/kbar/images/5554.jpg

That's pretty much the downfall of the standard Handel of fallkniven in a nutshell. although the H1 Handel appears to be better.
 
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