52100 Para2

Discussion in 'Spyderco' started by Cursum Perficio, Oct 5, 2017.

  1. Cursum Perficio

    Cursum Perficio

    Oct 27, 2012
    Hadn't seen it mentioned here so just a heads up, I just found an email from BladeHQ about a 52100 Paramilitary 2 Sprint with CF scales.

    Preorders, and expected to start shipping mid-October.

    I'm in.
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2017
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  2. TNVOL1969


    May 22, 2016
    I just ordered too for some reason.
  3. on_the_edge

    on_the_edge Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    When did the preorder go up?
  4. Cursum Perficio

    Cursum Perficio

    Oct 27, 2012
    Email arrived 6.03am today NZ time. I don't imagine this one lasting long.
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2017
  5. uxo2

    uxo2 Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 3, 2013
    Wow .....

    That's some balls.... steel.

    But carbon fiber again.. lame.
  6. anycal


    Jan 11, 2017
    Another unexpected surprise?! Pre-ordered. Tide me over before Maxamet.
  7. Red House

    Red House

    May 1, 2016
    Damn wallet just got lighter...
  8. woodsmanoh


    Sep 28, 2017
    Thanks for the Heads up. Also available at Knifecenter. Pre-Ordered mine too. Anyone know when the Maxamet PM2 is going to ship. Tough month on the wallet. I had also pre ordered a Sliverax that did not get fulfilled in first wave release.
  9. donscpoo

    donscpoo Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 11, 2013
    Ordered mine from KC as BladeHQ does not ship to Singapore.
  10. Josh K

    Josh K Pirate

    Sep 29, 2008
    Weird. My browser went on auto pilot and a natural G-10 Military found it's way into the cart as well. :confused:
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  11. `br4dz-

    `br4dz- Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 18, 2016
    Don't mean to bash this knife, but what's with all of the tool and non-stainless steels being used for PM2 sprints and exclusives and such lately? M4, M4 again (BHQ ex), 52100, Cruwear, etc, I'd like to see some more exotic stainless steels being used. ZDP-189 (is this possible now?), Vanax 37, 20CV, LC200N (please please please!). This is on top of Spyderco using a lot of steels lately on production models that chip fairly easily (i.e. Maxamet, S110V, even S30V), or rather that have very low toughness, since some people always swear up and down that their "used" knife has never chipped. Am I asking too much? My favorite steels seem to be M390/20cv/204p and XHP, followed by S35vn, and I'd like to try the previously mentioned stainless steels without spending a ton on a knife I don't want.
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  12. jbmonkey

    jbmonkey Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jun 9, 2011

    had to get one. really like 52100 steel.

    it takes and holds a great edge. so that attribute ill be utilizing alot in a smaller folder like the pm2.

    i like spydercos use of tool steels and carbon etc. exotic and rare stainlesses(is that even a word) is great too, but happy to see lots of choices.
    Last edited: Oct 7, 2017
  13. Wowbagger


    Sep 20, 2015
    Which has finer grain and smaller carbides 52100 or M4 ?
    Teetering between this 52100 vs biting the bullet and paying too much for a Para 2 M4.
  14. tyyreaun

    tyyreaun Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 26, 2017
    I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're referring to the BladeHQ PM2 M4, it's using CPM's M4 (i.e., particle metallurgy) while 52100 is regular ingot steel. I'd have to assume the M4 version has much finer grain and smaller carbides.

    Edit: Um, yeah, no comparison: http://www.zknives.com/knives/steels/steelgraph.php?nm=CPM M4,52100&ni=8,813&hrn=1&gm=0
  15. Wowbagger


    Sep 20, 2015
    Still though, I'm not saying anything against the 52100. I don't have any yet / haven't tried it yet.
    I LOVE plain carbon if it's hard so I imagine I would appreciate 52100.
  16. tyyreaun

    tyyreaun Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 26, 2017
    It'd be cool if they did a differential heat treat/hamon on the 52100. I guess they might not be set up for doing it at the factory. You might be able to put a fake hamon on with some vinegar or other acid treatment.

    I was waiting on the Maxamet to get a super crazy hard blade, but then Sergey Rogovets got his hands on some REX 121, so I'll probably get something from him instead :p. REX 121 should put even Maxamet to shame - it runs at like 70+ HRC easily. Probably shatters if you look at it funny, though.
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2017
  17. Wowbagger


    Sep 20, 2015
    Yah I was watching Apostle P on YouTube and you have to be really with it to sharpen Maxemet. He has sharpened several and it wasn't fun. Makes S110V sound like a cake walk. With diamonds it is but Maxamet sounds like it is possible to literally snap the apex of the edge off while sharpening it.

    Oooooohhhhh Hamonnnnnnnn . . . that would be fun on a Para.
  18. Wowbagger


    Sep 20, 2015
    Didn't I read that Phil Wilson said 121 was just too weird to work with and he was done trying. That's good enough for me. Sounds like a crap shoot whether you get a good one or not.

    PS: nope nope . . . I'm wrong, I looked it up. He was talking about CPM-125.
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2017
  19. tyyreaun

    tyyreaun Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 26, 2017
    Probably. There was a thread on the Spyderco forum back in 2015 where Sal Glasser says they were working on REX 121 mules. Given that they never came out, I'm guessing it didn't work.

    Actually, I just looked it up and there's a follow-up post in July of this year where Sal said they tried REX 121... and went with Maxamet instead :p. Dunno, I'll see what Sergey comes up with.
  20. Sal Glesser

    Sal Glesser Moderator Moderator

    Dec 27, 1998
    Hi Woodsmanoh,

    Welcome to our forum.


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