A big Fat load of corporate BS

I understand the employer's point of view. If you don't follow it, worksman's comp insurance may not apply (injury and lost time) and certainly any subsequent liable law suit would have no grounds due to injuries sustained on the job when using your own blade.
 
I wish they'd let each store manager use discretion.
We're always #1 in the state when it comes to inspections...ect, and besides me and my dad are the only ones who carry knives.
Both of us doing a job that has us using them constantly throughout the day.


BTW I was given one of these when I first started and I believe the boss will let us carry these which are much more useable, but I stopped carrying it because they constantly fall out and the lanyards break.
 
Hickory n steel said:
Apparently no corporate policy says this is all I'm " allowed " to carry at work.

They can we knives and customers can carry them, but we can't ?

Oh well, if they wanna loose money by having me waste time using some piece of crap that can't be sharpened and doesn't have enough blade to fully get through some of the cardboard I have to cut that's on them.
If they're making me carry this piece of shit they better keep ample supply on hand.


They're not gonna know what's in my pocket or anything so it's not as bad as it could be, but they're really overreaching if you ask me.
This is just an ignorant reaction to some BS, if it gets to be a bigger deal I'm outta there.
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What company is this?
 
Insipid Moniker said:
Then they're worried about their liability insurance instead of their worker's comp. Result is the same. Start your own business or work for yourself and carry what you like, but employers have to account for the lowest common denominator among their employees when they write policy.
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Unfortunately this is the bottom line to any company with a sizable workforce. Our workforce is global, GE, and the quickest way to get fired is for drugs, safety and attendance violations. This is a common scenario, "You hurt yourself with an unapproved tool that was not cleared for the floor". "But my boss knew I had it and didn't say anything". "You should have known better, every employee knows what the policy is when they were hired. This is a recordable injury to OSHA, our insurance and our facility". Then it was an accident review board made up of employees and staff to hash out root cause of the incident. If the root cause was safety negligence in violation of policy the employee was usually fired. Just because you have to cater to lowest denominator does not mean you have to retain them.
 
What would Milton Friedman say? I am not positive, but I agree.

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SOLEIL said:
I.M. I was an employer also. If any of my employees couldn't be trusted to be safe with sharp objects they were not employed long or never got employed. Eliminating unsafe workers is a better solution to restricting all of your employees and your productivity for the benefit of a few morons.
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SOLEIL said:
Unfortunately this is the bottom line to any company with a sizable workforce. Our workforce is global, GE, and the quickest way to get fired is for drugs, safety and attendance violations. This is a common scenario, "You hurt yourself with an unapproved tool that was not cleared for the floor". "But my boss knew I had it and didn't say anything". "You should have known better, every employee knows what the policy is when they were hired. This is a recordable injury to OSHA, our insurance and our facility". Then it was an accident review board made up of employees and staff to hash out root cause of the incident. If the root cause was safety negligence in violation of policy the employee was usually fired. Just because you have to cater to lowest denominator does not mean you have to retain them.
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You seem to be contradicting yourself a bit here. In the first quote you seem to be arguing against those policies, while in the second you seem to acknowledge that they're a necessity (and, in fact, the vehicle by which you can, legally and without paying unemployment, do the firing mentioned in the first quote).
 
Forgive my reading comprehension but if they are providing them, is it such a bad deal?

Personally, I think any bans on basic tools is a bad deal. You've got to weigh the pros and cons of keeping your current job, and whether or not you'd keep it if you ignore the policy.
 
Seems silly to me. Unless they have employees that are minors. Or mentally challenged or disturbed.

My company has a no guns policy. But any knife is fine.

As a Tradesman I have lots of really dangerous tools. Power saws, hydraulic shears, grinders, torches etc. A utility knife is probably the safest tool I use.

slips and falls cause the most injuries. Then dog bites. Then motor vehicle accidents. It is rare to see someone hurt with a tool.
 
Cosmodragoon said:
Forgive my reading comprehension but if they are providing them, is it such a bad deal?

Personally, I think any bans on basic tools is a bad deal. You've got to weigh the pros and cons of keeping your current job, and whether or not you'd keep it if you ignore the policy.
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The problem is that they don't work as good in practice as the people who want us using them but don't know shit think they're supposed to.
They're extremely limited in what they can actually tackle and there's no way I'll have a sharp blade when I need it.
( Hopefully I get to use the easy cut 2000, I can at least sharpen the proprietary blades they take )
As far as keeping my job, it's not gonna be a problem.
Nobody's gonna know that I've got a small traditional folder in my pocket, I won't let anyone see me use it at work if I do but I'm simply not gonna leave home without one In my pocket.

If I can't leave the house with a watch on my wrist, hat on my head, and knife in my pocket I'm not gonna leave the house at all.
 
I can't carry at all at my job.
I do have one in my backpack though and a Gerber zip pull on my keychain.
 
Hickory n steel said:
Apparently no corporate policy says this is all I'm " allowed " to carry at work.
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Well good. If no corporate policy says that's what you have to carry, you can carry what you want!

Hickory n steel said:
They can we knives and customers can carry them, but we can't ?
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what does we knives have to do with this.

Hickory n steel said:
If they're making me carry this piece of **** they better keep ample supply on hand.
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Watch the language. You've been letting the s-bombs drop a little too easily lately.
 
Thankfully, even at the multi-billion dollar company I work for, this hasn't caught on.
Most folks in the warehouse use stanley style utility knives and I bought everyone in the print shop husky folding utility knives.

I keep knives and tools on me everyday but ideally use the replaceable blades on cardboard and mystery materials. I like to save my knife for food, wood and the occasional minor surgery.

Maybe ask your boss if you can pick a knife from the catalog so you can get something more suited to your work style?
 
Again, I totally get why the policy is not popular.

But an employer may have several reasons why they may implement this.

ES&H policy, insurance reasons, etc. Not to mention, they don’t want anyone to get hurt.
 
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