A Different Sebenza Thread

Heck, I can easily live with somebody disagreeing with me. I don't have all my bolts tightened, so I know that I speak from a slightly skewed perspective. But you're saying that........ If you heard more complaints about the Sebenza, you'd be more likely to buy one?

The Sebenza sucks. The lock is flimsy. It has too many different sized screws. The blade cuts as well as a baseball bat. ;)
 
Not exactly...I'm saying that I would be more likely to buy one if 1) it was not constantly rammed down my throat 2) people were ALLOWED to express negative aspects without being accused of starting a flame-war (and without being flamed!!!!) 3) sweeping statements were not made.

RL
 
brownshoe = sept sign up with 4 posts and already a "I hate Sebenza! " thread. What a productive member of society :rolleyes:
 
RL - Stuff like that happens all the time. Lots of knives have managed to garner a cult following. Busse has a bunch. So does Strider. The Benchmade AFCK and 710HS are greatly loved. So are some of the more basic Spydercos. There is definitely a "Top 20" list of tacticals that people swear by. I’ve tried many of them, and thought that every one was very good. There’s a reason why certain knives get so much attention. Some designs stand the test of time, which is the real test of a knife. Fad knives come one day, and are all but gone the next.

If people swear by a knife today, then that’s very nice and fine. If they still swear by it years down the road, maybe there’s a logical reason. Heck, I swear by my Marbles fixed blades. They’ve been around for as long as my grandfather!!!

But I read you. Lofty statements and “you have to have one to appreciate it” are tough to read. The trouble with the Seb is that it actually is a sensational working knife, housed in a less than gorgeous body, IMHO. If you don’t actually get to carry and use it for a while, you’ll never get past the “my God this knife is ugly!!!!” phase. The Seb is not perfect by a long shot. It’s just very perfect in certain discriminating areas where so many folders fall so badly short.
 
Hmmm my kids flick booggers...I'll have to admit that I may have flicked a booger in my day too...but never since I've gotten mature ;)

As to flicking knives? May be a handy thing but I'd not hang my needs on whether or not a knife was supposed to be able to be flicked open or not, as logic will tell you that the inertia of the blade flipping open does impact and can cause premature wear, autos are built a little differently to accept that I think, though some may not and suffer from overuse.

About the only knife that really is a GREAT flicking knife are the Benchmade Axis locks! Now there you can control your flicking so that you are NOT impacting the mechs very much at all! I love the 941 that I have and look forward to a BM771 that is enroute as I type...and someday a 921 will be in my future I hope!

and I am one of those darn lovers of Sebenzas, but mainly because I find no overt fault with them, they are just a nice strong locking and sharp knife that I can depend on, as mentioned...it is just a knife but a well made one...:)

G2
 
I may have only made 4 posts, but I've been around knives and collectors since 1984.

No I'm not a troll.

I just recently got the guts to respond through my employer's systems.

However despite the insults, both open and veiled, nobody has yet challenge the fact that (a) it opens in your pocket and (b) you can't flick.

My favorite folder depends upon my mood, I'm not wedded to any manufacturer.

It's impossible for one knife to fulfill all the needs of a true collector.

My purpose in this thread was to bring a little focus to the Sebenza discussions.

Thanks for the welcome guys...what's a girl to do.

Just slap me and call me a swiss army knife.
 
Originally posted by brownshoe
I may have only made 4 posts, but I've been around knives and collectors since 1984.

No I'm not a troll.

I just recently got the guts to respond through my employer's systems.

However despite the insults, both open and veiled, nobody has yet challenge the fact that (a) it opens in your pocket and (b) you can't flick.

My favorite folder depends upon my mood, I'm not wedded to any manufacturer.

It's impossible for one knife to fulfill all the needs of a true collector.

My purpose in this thread was to bring a little focus to the Sebenza discussions.

Thanks for the welcome guys...what's a girl to do.

Just slap me and call me a swiss army knife.
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Good for you, hope those guys didn't slap you too hard, but it's been Troll heaven around here lately and folks are more than a little gun shy when argumentive posts are started as they're first entry to the forums, and from someone with no email address as well, it has the traits of Trolldom, but questions are always welcome! And don't let them get ya down!

G2
 
I've been carrying Sebenza's on and off for about 7yrs now, and never once had one open in my pocket. Both large and small, regular and classic,not once a problem. I have carried Benchmades, Microtechs, and Spyderco's that HAVE opened in my pocket. This doesn't give me reason to not buy them though.:rolleyes:
 
Who gives a f.ucking sh!t if you can't flick it!?!
Do you for some reason get kicks from "flicking" your knives open, or do you just insist on flicking your knives open instead of using the stud or hole? I guess flicking your knives open makes you look cool.
:confused:

Jeff
 
Who says you can't flick a Seb? duh...of course you can. LMAO how the same people who talk about how stout it is act like it's flimsy or something. [sissy voice]"Oh no, you'll hurt it!"[/sissy voice]. Ever own a waved Emerson? Amazing how a Commander's tiny stop pin, and flimsy little .050 liners hold up to HARD opening, but a Sebenza supposedly can't. Please. I flicked an AFCK dozens of times daily for over three years, before selling it to a buddy who's been flicking it for over a year, since. Locks up rock solid, just a hair past where it did when brand new. Guess I should have been ashamed of flicking a Seb, since it can't hold up to that kind of treatment:rolleyes:
Opens in your pocket cause of tip-up? It's an inanimate object. It doesn't do anything on its own. You do something to make it open...well, yeah, it's going to open. Tip down knives open in the pocket, too, haven't you heard? No design can make up for operator deficiency. If you can't figure out that it's impossible for a knife to open when the spine of the blade is wedged against the edge of a pocket, or at least can't figure out how to get your knife ALLLLL the way back there to the edge of the pocket, then no, you probably don't need to carry tip-up. You shouldn't be driving a car, either.
There's enough stuff screwed up in the world to gripe about without just having to make up some BS to whine over.
Get real, it's just another knife. It isn't perfect for everybody. Who cares? I got rid of both of mine simply because I found other knives that suited my uses better. You still won't find a knife that's made better than a Sebenza. I may get another in S30V one of these days.
I bet everybody out there sees dozens of knives online everyday that they don't have the slightest use for. Why the Sebenza draws so many people who whine about nothing, I don't know. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Nobody cares. Bite me, whiners:barf:
 
What's the definition of flicking here? Flicking the knife open by putting your thumb on the thumbstud and pushing your thumb forward so the blade has enough speed to open w/o you having to use your thumb all the way? Or flicking as in holding the handle of the knife and using wrist action to flick it open? I'm confused.:confused:
 
I don't know why but I am starting to like OwenM. :) The benza still sucks :)
 
I know the solution to the “knife flicking, not covered under warranty problem” that will make this ‘benza thing a non-issue. Buy a knife of your choice, from the manufacturer of your choice. Flick it all you want. Drop it all you want. Use it as a pry bar till you dismantled a couple of old sundecks, of course, snapping off a nice chunk of the tip. Leave it in your back yard all fall and winter, then find it all rusty in the spring.......

......then return it to the manufacturer, say all you did was buy the knife new, open the box, place this prized knife on your night stand, never used it, and it is mysteriously no longer working. Please replace it under warranty. All they can do is call you a "liar."

Can you tell I'm "jaded"? ;)
 
Originally posted by jefroman
Who gives a f.ucking sh!t if you can't flick it!?!
Do you for some reason get kicks from "flicking" your knives open, or do you just insist on flicking your knives open instead of using the stud or hole? I guess flicking your knives open makes you look cool.
:confused:

Jeff
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Just because you don't give a ****!ng sh!t doesn't mean that other people don't and you shouldn't put us down...in a tactical situation, flicking can save your life by getting your blade open "in time" with the least motor skills...but who gives a ****!ng sh!t about those who don't carry knives for tactical reasons...I guess they just aren't cool enough!

See what I mean about the pro Sebenza arguments...rather than ADMIT that there is a GASP! potential flaw, the Sebenzanista will revert to a "well, who needs to anyway...and you're an idiot for even thinking about it...now go buy a Sebenza and adapt your knife behaviour to it because it is God and no other knife matters":rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
I've gotta' say one thing. Few knives generate as many assorted emotions as the Sebenza. I'm not sure who has more though, the lovers or the haters.
 
You mean a Seb will open in your pocket ? Is this an infringement on the wave design ? LOL....just kidding.

I guess its a good thing I will have a sheath made for it soon.

It's the old Chevy vs Ford debate....I own one of each !!
I dunno but I enjoy reading everyones opinions.
Buy what you like , what makes you happy.....I just dont buy nothing I cant carry as EDC.
 
Originally posted by Ron@SOG
I know the solution to the “knife flicking, not covered under warranty problem” that will make this ‘benza thing a non-issue. Buy a knife of your choice, from the manufacturer of your choice. Flick it all you want. Drop it all you want. Use it as a pry bar till you dismantled a couple of old sundecks, of course, snapping off a nice chunk of the tip. Leave it in your back yard all fall and winter, then find it all rusty in the spring.......

......then return it to the manufacturer, say all you did was buy the knife new, open the box, place this prized knife on your night stand, never used it, and it is mysteriously no longer working. Please replace it under warranty. All they can do is call you a "liar."

Can you tell I'm "jaded"? ;)
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Ron,Are you calling me a liar? ;) :p :D
 
An entire thread devoted to the topic of whether a Sebenza is doggie doo-doo because it's not allowably "flickable"? Please, let's get a perspective! Sure, and I think a Chive is doo-doo because it's not the best at skinning a Moose. And I think a UT-6 is crap because I can't repeatedly throw it at a tree without damaging it. :rolleyes: It seems like we're having to reach pretty far if we use the criterion of "flickability" to try and bring the Sebenza down to the level of other knives. That in itself speaks volumes.

Besides, I hear ya'll go blind if you flick too much :p

- Mark
 
Since when was it physically immpossible to flick open the sebenza? I've flicked open sebenzas quite a few times, and I know that it's possible. But in my last post, I was trying to say that it isn't the best thing to do to the sebenza, or any knife that isn't made for it.
Sorry for any flame wars that I may have started.

Jeff
 
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