A few words about HONESTY

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"HONESTY...is such a lonely word....everyone is so untrue..."

I'm not just talking about the song here. I do believe that many people have forgotten what that word really means. Along with a few other words such as "LOYALTY", "INTEGRITY", and "RESPECT".

I am over here at BF because of the post about Strider knives. Right off the bat, the post was incredibly moronic, as the original poster did not even show pics of what happened and never made an effort to contact Strider knives in order to get the problem rectified. If you review all the posts in that thread, he keeps mentioning how he got the knife "new and unused", and yet he doesn't have even a pic to prove what he is saying is what really happened.

But that wasn't the worst part. To be fair, the original poster resolved his issues. What made me write this thread is because of the hypocritical and overbearing nerve of the Strider haters over at BF who took this opportunity again to unfairly bash Strider knives, and yet proclaim that "they would do the same thing to any knife company had the same lousy QC as Strider has".

Guess what? I posted a link to a thread where one of the BF members was having problems with his Benchmade, and I was told it wasn't the same because that knife "wasn't a $400 dollar knife".

Other posters were hitting me for allegedly spouting "malicious" and "unqualified" outbursts in defending Strider knives when they themselves "weren't actually singling out Strider knives" as far as the QC issue goes.

GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!

Why is it that some people just could not accept that we all have choices, we all are different, and we will get what we want, whether it be knives, guns, body armor, etc., based on our personal needs and requirements?

Why is it some people keep on bashing Strider knives and yet hide under the cloak of appropriateness and convenience by saying, "It's not just Strider knives, I'll go and bust out on any company that has shoddy QC and mucks it up as much as Strider knives!!!"

Yeah, posers, whatever.......

For once, I just wish the ********s over there and in every other forum that hates Striders to just stand up and say it out loud and proud, i.e., "Hi, my name is _____________(insert name here, even if it's just your computer name), and I HATE STRIDER KNIVES because ___________(insert criticism here) !" just to get it out of their system. It sickens me that they go and hide behind the veil of "keeping it real", "looking out for the public welfare", and "that shouldn't be the quality of a $400+ knife!"

This is one of the horrors the computer age brings - the anonymity the Internet affords makes some lower forms of life believe that they have carte blanche authority to be the moral and ethical police, whether we like them to or not. Well, there is a difference between "keeping it real" and "not allowing me the pleasure of thinking and deciding for myself", and these people don't seem to know the difference.

Another thing which I find totally incredulous is that they accuse Strider fans of being "rabid dogs who pounce at anyone that even thinks of smearing the Strider name", and yet I, for one, could characterize them as being the same, if not worse, because they seem to take a perverse pride in slamming anyone who even has an inkling of standing up for Strider on BF and other forums. They also possess the sanctimonious attitude of thinking they are the only ones who know what there is to know about knives, and they make others feel that what knowledge they possess doesn't amount to much.

Yeah, right~

Honesty is not about getting on the Internet and proclaiming to all the world that life sucks because you didn't get what you expected to when you shelled out the money to get your new knife (whether it be Strider, Busse, Benchmade, etc.). Honesty is about facing the realities that life throws out, and then finding ways to make a "suck" situation better, such as contacting the manufacturer and talking to him so he can make it right, and doing this without any fanfare. Honesty is also being able to walk up to someone and tell that person that you have issues with him face-to-face, not hiding behind a computer screen and typing your gripes out on a forum. It's pretty much like airing out your dirty laundry in public. In the end, you only end up making an ASS out of yourself.

Respect is all about giving credit where credit is due, and not having to slander anybody by rehasing old issues, especially when it comes to past military service and such which a lot of the BF regulars use as their arguments against Strider knives. Hell, do any of them really know what they're talking about?

I've never lived a sheltered life - my experiences helped shaped me to make do with the things I have. In fact, it is only now that I'm able to enjoy some of the finer things that I never had when I was younger. But I look at this as a plus since it helps me to think on my feet and "improvise, adapt, and overcome" (Thanks, Clint!). I know that life sometimes throws a curve ball, and when it does, you have to be able to respond to it the best way you know how and not spend time "crying over spilled milk". It just makes me vomit when these people talk about Striders with "off-centered blades", "shoddy Quality Control", "the knives look fucking ugly", and slam people for buying Strider knives and standing up for them, yet when you do the same thing with Benchmade, Busse, etc., they call you a "cultist", "weirdo", and "wannabe".

To me, these people lack INTEGRITY. They can't stand up on their own merits and try to slam other people down just to make themselves feel good. They have no moral fiber, no idea of what it means to live and let live, and having to make sacrifices in order to get the job done.

I only own a few knives. The few that I own, I know that they will serve me well and would serve my son well when he gets to inherit them. It saddens me to know that we live in a world where people have to be judgemental, hypocritical, and condescending, but I'm just glad that there are still a few people left who understand these concepts, and I know that I will be an ardent supporter of these people for all my days!
 
Blah blah blah.

Rants belong in W&C.

I don't have any problem with strider knives, but anyone can say what they want about a knife they purchased. Most people call them out for some pics, and others tell them they should contact the company.
Others become hugely offended and write a lengthy rant that nobody is going to bother reading. At least Mick is to the point when he comes by to say "lick my sack".

Go back to your hole, wherever that might be.
 
Indeed.
Point made. Could have done well with out the "Ftard" remarks, that lowers your grade a bit. But all in all you brought up some very valid points. We all are different and have altered points of views,and stating our opinions.
You are obviously pretty worked up about this. I'm sorry it made you so mad. But please remember what you wrote. We are all different, and you made find comfort in knowing that you are not him. :-)
Remember when posting out here or reading here it's only a opinion of one or a few that you read. There are millions of blade owners who have never heard of Sparks or BF. KnifeForums.com and the others. They quietly go about enjoying their Strider knives day in and out enjoying the fantastic Quality Control that was engineered into their $400.00 blade.
I wish you a very Merry Christmas in the Philippines and great joy in the coming
New Year!
Peace.
 
I read the whole thread and made a minor post about a lesson learned,buy a Hinderer. With all the crap and cost to have to go through,I can see his point.I also believe Niel from TNK is a standup guy and would not mess with the product. Neil only carrys new from factory as this is his policy.Well,that only leaves a direct from the factory defect.In other cases he should most surely contact Strider about it.But some of these countries still act like they have the great wall built around them and rip and rummage through your mail and packages.Not to mention the cost.I do not have a Strider Knife,I can't say anything good or bad about them. I will probably buy a RC because they are supposed to be a kick your *## knife. I do not know Mick so can't say anything there as well. All the knives I have bought,and its been 8 since Oct. have come in perfect.A Combat Elite auto,A Microtech Troodon,a Lg Sebenza,a Emerson cqc7 and cqc10,cqc8,Dozier Freedom Fighter and Sebenza NICA Tanto Folder. Wide variety of knives all perfect.Boogers come through,I understand.But I do not think this knife could have been tinkered with.

MPE
 
I just saw this at end of a South Park episode I think it was the one where Stan goes to Canada to find his brother.

Oh yeah and Strider knives are overpriced. My screen name is in the left corner and feel free to bring cheese next time.
 
...Another thing which I find totally incredulous is that they accuse Strider fans of being "rabid dogs who pounce at anyone that even thinks of smearing the Strider name"...

And yet, when someone reports a defective knife made by another manufacturer (even if he doesn't post pictures) the fans of that brand are not moved to incoherent rage. We see it every day here. Every brand has fans, and there are at least occasional reports of defective knives of almost every brand. What makes the fans of other brands different? :confused:
 
This thread seems to be referring to the current thread New Strider failure but I am not going to merge the threads because that one has been relatively calm and rational so far.
 
I'd be happy if the strider fanboys would learn to post in the right forum.
 
Hi, I'm a self admitted strider fanboy and MOSTLY i post in the correct forum (shhhh dont tell how many times I havent cougar!)


Punisher, i agree with you F-bombs and all. I have had conversations with almost all of the people who like to diss strider and most of them are intelligent good guys, but for some reason, if you talk about Strider, get ready because they are going to ream you, call you names, insult your intelligence, call you an "airsofter" etc.

This is even to people who have spent time in the military in some cases, as I myself have. I did not have the money at the time to afford a Strider (what grunt has that kind of money?) but now that I do have the ability to afford what I want, I'll damn well carry anything I want.

People here also say that enlisted men arent a good judge of what knife would be helpful for sandbox carry (im paraphrasing but the statement was to that effect), If they dont know who the **** does?


And for the record, I stay on this forum because GENERALLY you people are more well spoken, less aggravating and more mature than any other forum I have come across. I love this forum but I think Strider users and lovers should be able to disagree with others and have their own opinion be somewhat respected.

For example, If I scream Emmerson Sucks (it doesnt, just an example) People should ream me, same should go for Benchmade, Spyderco, Busse, ANYONE who makes quality knives are going to have their supporters, so please let Strider have their supporters without assuming every single one is a mall ninja or whatever. PLEASE!~

Rat - I respected you and your opinion up till now, if this is a lengthy rant that no one will bother reading, i guess you wont mind if I call you a... nope, im not going to stoop to that level.


(this was not language filtered due to it being moved to wine & cheese, if needed you can censer it for profanity)
 
This is one of the horrors the computer age brings - the anonymity the Internet affords makes some lower forms of life believe that they have carte blanche authority to be the moral and ethical police, whether we like them to or not.


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I think your wasting to much time and energy on trying to control what people post on the internet. If you don't agree with information posted here, don't use it in your future knife purchases. There is also alot of positive information posted regarding Strider Knives. People are smart enough to take it all in and decide for themselves whether Strider knifes are for them or not.
 
yeah probably, but people should, (at least the more intelligent ones) respect anothers opinion without resorting to name calling, and pissing contests immediatly. it makes both sides look like POP-TARDS.
 
As a potential Strider customer. I've almost pulled the trigger a couple of times.
I've gotta say some of Strider's "loyal" fans can be the company's worst ambassadors.
 
Gentlebeings, there's nothing wrong with a little ranting, but please try to keep the language reasonably family-friendly.
 
Rat - I respected you and your opinion up till now, if this is a lengthy rant that no one will bother reading, i guess you wont mind if I call you a... nope, im not going to stoop to that level.
what exactly did I say that is innacurate? (and offensive enough to you that you want to call me names?
 
People here also say that enlisted men arent a good judge of what knife would be helpful for sandbox carry (im paraphrasing but the statement was to that effect), If they dont know who the **** does?

We do, of course. Anybody who's spent a couple of hours at Bladeforums knows more about knives than the average enlisted man. The average enlisted man doesn't spend a couple of hours learning about knives.
 
Blah blah blah.

Rants belong in W&C.
I don't have any problem with strider knives, but anyone can say what they want about a knife they purchased. Most people call them out for some pics, and others tell them they should contact the company.
Others become hugely offended and write a lengthy rant that nobody is going to bother reading. At least Mick is to the point when he comes by to say "lick my sack".

Go back to your hole, wherever that might be.[/QUOTE]

highlighted for you. after rereading it seems less offensive, perhaps im over sensitive after defending Strider semi-rationally for 3 days now.

We do, of course. Anybody who's spent a couple of hours at Bladeforums knows more about knives than the average enlisted man. The average enlisted man doesn't spend a couple of hours learning about knives.

This is true, however, they would know the exact criteria the knife would have to perform to, to be seriously useful. They should be able to inform as to which blade type would be most useful, etc.
 
You had to know that you would be beating your head against a wall by posting what you did. Much of what you posted rings true to me, but all you have really accomplished is to provide cannon fodder. Threads like this always end up doing no good, but I guess you at least got to get all that stuff off your chest.

Have a merry Christmas.
 
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