A Flaw in the Heat Treat? Or something else?

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My benchmade gold class knife is 100%

Of course the hardest work it ever sees is my intense loving stare. Love my Barkies and look forward to my first fiddleback.

Andy, does the burlap recluse have an extended tang? If yes I would like to purchase it. If yes can I phone tomorrow.

Pete
 
davjau said:
Hey! I had the same type of problem today and I am extremely dissapointed. Bought my first Bark River knife (Fox River) two months ago and used it for the first time this morning to skin and clean a deer. I tried to cut through the joints for the hind quarters, which it did nicely, but it left HUGE chips out of the blade. I couldn't believe it would chip that easily for a $175 knife!!! trying to figure out what to do....so what is the final word with your knife?
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I don't own any BRK&T knives, but I am starting to think I need to acquire one for my own studies.

This knife was unused until this cleaning? Seems to show a good bit of wear for just one use at processing a deer.

I've seen more than one good knife chipped by attacking bone with it. Not sure how everyone else was taught but I was taught to slice through the softer matter around the joints on an animal and then leverage the joints apart.
 
mistwalker said:
Not sure how everyone else was taught but I was taught to slice through the softer matter around the joints on an animal and then leverage the joints apart.
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davjau, sorry about your knife. :(
Two questions please......

1. Was this a 'new knife' or..... 'a new to you knife'?

2. Were you cutting through actual thick bone, doing it as mistwalker described, or.... something in between?
 
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pedropcola said:
My benchmade gold class knife is 100%

Of course the hardest work it ever sees is my intense loving stare. Love my Barkies and look forward to my first fiddleback.

Andy, does the burlap recluse have an extended tang? If yes I would like to purchase it. If yes can I phone tomorrow.

Pete
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Call me tomorrow. Nobody has stepped up yet IIRC.
 
teacher said:
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davjau, sorry about your knife. :(
Two questions please......

1. Was this a 'new knife' or..... 'a new to you knife'?

2. Were you cutting through actual thick bone, doing it as mistwalker described, or.... something in between?
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This is a brand new knife. I purchased it two months ago from kniveshipfree.com. All it has done is sit in the sheath waiting for its first skinning. I used the green side of a sponge to scratch off all the fat that wound up sticking on it. That is what makes it look a little used I guess.

And yes, I do know how to quarter and de-bone a deer. I had finished the entire deer with the knife and made it to the hindquarters. I was cutting the leg from the hind quarter at the joint and didn't make it all the way through so I thought I would try out my new knife. I had seen videos of people batoning through dried up logs with this knife so I thought it could handle being pushed through the joint. And apparently after doing so I wound up with the chips.

I had researched knives for a while and decided on the Fox River. I saved up my play money and bought it. I have never had a "quality" knife. The best thing I have owned up to this is a spyderco folder. So you can see why I am so dissapointed.
 
teacher said:
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davjau, sorry about your knife. :(
Two questions please......

1. Was this a 'new knife' or..... 'a new to you knife'?

2. Were you cutting through actual thick bone, doing it as mistwalker described, or.... something in between?
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And I do think it is something with the heat treat though. The edge on the knife that doesn't have the chips in it is COMPLETELY dull. There isn't a sharp enough edge anywhere on the knife to even glide through paper.

And all of that is after skinning and cutting up ONE whitetail deer. I have had MUCH cheaper knives do more work than that with no problem.

I am just hoping I got a lemon for a knife and BRKT and is really worth the buy. You can tell by the number of posts I have made on the forum that I am not a regular by any means. So I really felt strongly when posting this. I just thought this was out of the ordinary from all of the other raving BRKT reviews I had seen.
 
It is certainly out of the ordinary. Mike stands behind his product. Get yourself a new one from him. BRKT makes great knives.
 
Mike and the crew will take care of it. They have an unconditional warranty. Trust me. I have screwed up some Bark Rivers doing things that I shouldnt have and they have taken care of it. Call them and talk to Donna if Mike is not around. She handles things coming into her. They will make things right. Regardless of what some folks say I think they are great people to deal with.
 
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kyhunt said:
Mike and the crew will take care of it. They have an unconditional warranty. Trust me. I have screwed up some Bark Rivers doing things that I shouldnt have and they have talen care of it. Call them and talk to Donna if Mike is not around. She handles things coming into her. They will make things right. Regardless of what some folks say I think they are great people to deal with.
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I actually talked to Donna yesterday and she squared everything away. I mailed it to her. Feel better about everything now.
 
I have a Fox River that I used to skin and process 4 deer in one season without sharpening. it was still sharp at the end, but needed to be touched up.

I would bet that you hit the bone pretty hard. I did it the first time I tried to hammer through the pelvis. I had a group of Africans who came to my farm teach me how to do it on a goat. It is a little tricky the first time.

Glad Donna got you going. :)
 
Here is something I learned early on in my knife days....the grind determines the use of a knife. We had the Recluse ground thin to be a slicer--just like the ones custom ones Andy builds. Thicker edges hold up better to hard woods, batoning, etc, but they don't slice as well.

I have worked for years with Bark River and for a year or so with Andy. Both are first class knife makers and I am very pleased to work with both.

One of these days, Andy is going to have a knife or two that end up dinged like these and he will fix them just like Bark River is. Hopefully people will be as patient because sometimes this stuff happens when you use a knife.

BTW, I am not unsympathetic to this situation--I did this myself one time to my favorite Fallkniven. I wasn't very happy. Mike at Bark River fixed it for me. :) He laughed and told me to stop doing what I was doing when it happened.
 
Thanks for the info 'davjau'. :thumbup:

I wasn't implying you did not know what you were doing, just trying to clarify. :)
My apologies if it came across different.

I don't blame you, I would be disappointed also; to say the least.

I'm glad they are going to fix you up, it does just sound like a heat treat problem that slipped by.

Congrats on the your first deer of the year.... :thumbup: :)
I am counting the days till gun season opens here. ;)
 
G'day Gerberbmf

gerberbmf said:
For the love of Pete can someone please lock this thread.
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Why would any one want to lock this thread ?

It's been a great opportunity for the interent "dog pilers" to realise they really do need to pull their :foot: out before they can gain any form of credibility :D

I'm also hopefull they will realise they really do need to do their homework before they express their opinions as fact :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Who knows, maybe, just maybe, internet forums might become a source of informed opinion and not just "opinion" :D




Kind regards
Mick :D
 
FMAKNut said:
I agree this should be about Fiddleback Forge knives. Not here to upset anyone, but if anyone knows of a knife company with a 0% failure rate (or any company, for that matter), please go start a thread on that.
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Well, since you mention it, I've never seen or heard about a broken Busse or Fallkniven.
 
penetrator said:
Well, since you mention it, I've never seen or heard about a broken Busse or Fallkniven.
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A failure of a Fallkniven was discussed above. I find this post completely disrespectful. I am going to close this thread now.
 
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