a folding chef knife, make sense?

Thanks for the interest guys!

The balichef idea is a stroke of a genius! But maybe the blade would be too wide for the handle, and it will have troubles on places where balisongs are forbidden



I think the cleaning is a major concern. For me, the open frame construction with linerless handle and compresion lock (just like the Paramilitary) is the ideal choice. The framelock seems good too, but I don't like the idea of a metal handled chef knife :cool:


P.D.
Spyken, that knives are insanely cool! :eek:


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Sorry for my english :eek:
 
Thanks for the interest guys!

The balichef idea is a stroke of a genius! But maybe the blade would be too wide for the handle, and it will have troubles on places where balisongs are forbidden



I think the cleaning is a major concern. For me, the open frame construction with linerless handle and compresion lock (just like the Paramilitary) is the ideal choice. The framelock seems good too, but I don't like the idea of a metal handled chef knife :cool:


P.D.
Spyken, that knives are insanely cool! :eek:


BETO

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Sorry for my english :eek:

I like your folding Santoku idea. I've been wanting folding chef's knives for ages....the AG Russell is good, but the heat treat and blade steel could be better...the Wilkins is just plain awesome, but the blade stock is a little thick for exceptional slicing and dicing...it's more like a deba as opposed to a petit gyuto.

I need to work on my project fast, I guess.....:D
 
Bali makes it instantly illegal in many places, I hate that idea..

I do, however, love the idea of a folding chef's knife. Gotta be a santoku rather than French chef's to maximize the bladelength and make it easier to keep the point protected in the handle. I have an AG Russell folding Santoku, which has sold me on the idea, but I agree it can be improved upon drastically. I'd keep this a simple lockback. Simple, reliable, strong, less likely to get messed up by food-based schmutz (that's a technical term), inexpensive.

The original picture posted at the top of the thread is already pretty dang close to ideal, IMO! The most difficult problem may be placing the Spyderhole somewhere it can be easily used. Too high and it becomes very difficult to trace the arc with your thumb. Because the Santoku's blade is so wide, the hole may have to be lower on the blade than usual.
 
for taking apart, you could use a screw of some sort, but then you still have to worry about getting it all back together. i have had plenty hard times getting the blade, the washers, the pin and the lock all back in place for long enough to get it screwed together...that is really tricky.
 
i think the new clb boker trance looks like it would make a good folding chef's knife with the flipper ground off.
 
Nice idea (and illustrations) Alberto! I would buy a couple of those. H1 blade, FRN handles, lockback, no clip, maybe vent the handles like on some of the older Rescues for better cleaning/drying, and you would really have something.
 
If it wasn't for the legality issue, the bali design would be great. Nice latch on the end so you could lock it closed as well as open, and you could vent the back of the handles to make it super easy to clean after using it.

A compression / frame lock like used on the the Ti Salsas would be pretty easy to clean also.
 
balichef? it does have a ring to it... how about an OTF? that would open some eyes around the old BBQ!
 
Joe, Shann, Revolvergeek,
I REALLY like the Balichef idea, so bad that is absolutely impractical for the legal issues.

A lockback or Compression Lock is the way to go, at las for me. It would be nice a regular FRN-lockback model and a luxury G10-Compression Lock model!


The hole place for one hand opening is not important for me. Is not a knife that you would need to open fast... well, I suppose ;)


Ginaz, sorry, you lost me! What is an OTF?



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Sal,

Any chance of working with Kevin Wilkins to produce a variation of one of his desighs? I love his work and and a collaboaration with Spyderco would be awesome.

I think some one else made that suggestion first a while back in another thread. No matter who thought of it first, I think it is a great idea.

Chuck
 
Hi Chuck,

We've got another design already "in the works" with Kevin at this time.

Anything that comes of this thread will no doubt be some time off.

As far as a design goes, that will remain for later.

sal
 
no, not H1........VG10 at least Sal, please?....like in the Yang kitchen knife? kitchen knives get used all the time so edgeholding is supra importante!
 
I was partial to H1, because its "rustpruffesnes", but I HATE to resharp constantly, the cutting board can be very hard on the edge of the knife.

I don't have any H1 knife, how does it holds?



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This is a good idea. At first I thought it was a gimmick and yet another good idea on paper not somethng that people would buy. Then I thought about all the times I have had a kitchen knife outside the home, camping, tailgate parties, picnicks,back packing, kayaking, boating, fishing, ect. In every one of those cases, it would have been better to have a folding knife instead of a fixed blade. Less chance of stabbing yourself, more compact, less rattle, ect.

If it happens, we can't get too carried away. Keep it simple and reasonably priced. Keep it as light as possible since it is going to be carried everywhere it goes. It has to be dishwasher safe as well. I think VG-10 would make a fine steel. I think the first pic is pretty close to what I would buy. FRN, lock back and a good SS like VG-10 or H-1. Keep the price to about $40-60 steet price and I think you will have a real seller. Jack up the price to over $100 and I think most people will just pack the fixed blade kitchen knife along.
 
This is a knife from EKA in Sweden which I got a long long time ago.

It's not made anymore (sadly), but it makes a perfect foldable camping kitchen knife.

It has an almost 5" blade, and the handle is designed so that it keeps your hands clear from the cutting board.

The tip design works also very good in getting stuff out of the bottom of a jar (think peanut butter...)

It's a back-lock, with steel liners. Steel is probably 12C27 or so. 2mm thick. Pretty ergonomic also. Makes a great slicer.

eka-knife.jpg


Oh, and I should add, I think that a good foldable camping kitchen knife is a big black hole in the current knife market.
I really hope that Spyderco will shed some light there ;)
 
no, not H1........VG10 at least Sal, please?....like in the Yang kitchen knife? kitchen knives get used all the time so edgeholding is supra importante!

Yeah. I would prefer VG-10 over H1. VG-10 holds up great and is such a pleasure to sharpen.
 
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