A good Air Rifle?

That is why I pointed out my rifle was averaging 725 FPS. The factory claims 950 but doesn't say with which pellet. Mine only turned in 815 with the Gamo alloy pellets yet I see YouTube reviews saying they had no trouble getting around 900 with standard 14.3 lead pellets. Somebody trying to suck up to Crossman/Gamo/etc?
 
Up date on my Benjamin Nitro. I sent an e-mail to Crossman asking about the much lower than catalog FPS. The reply was that my serial number indicated it was a "detuned" version made for export.

I would suggest not buying from Sportsman's Guide as they never pointed that little fact out in their catalog.
 
Hmm, that's interesting. I've owned an RWS 34, 48, Sheridan .20, and a couple of crosman pump ups and the only one that came close to matching it's stated velocity was the RWS 48 (rated 1100fps). I got 1080 with Hobby Pellets but most everything else was ~900 fps . The RWS 34 (rated at 800fps) got a max of 700 with that one.
Question for those with the nitro piston guns. Does shooting them make your head hurt a little? I think mine is but I'm not totally sure it's the gun.
I was cocking the gun the other day and the stock slipped off my leg and hit into my armpit while it was under the tension of the piston. It was enough to throw the scope off 2 feet @20yds and I think the head thing started after that but it doesn't really make sense.

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Perhaps someone has already said this. If so, sorry. But sometimes, maybe often, spring-piston airgun manufacturers list the maximum pellet fps based on measurements taken when the gun still has manufacturing oils in the mechanism that ignite under the rapid increase in pressure when the piston slams toward the breech in the barrel where the pellet sits. This happens to most new spring-piston airguns before the oils burn out. At any rate, this ignition of oil residue causes a loudish "pop" (and smoke coming out the end of the barrel) and propels the pellet out the barrel with a little extra horsepower that dissipates when the oil is completely burned away.
 
My Crosman Nitro chronys Crosman Premiers 14.3 around 730 average, JSB Exact Jumbo Express around 720 fps which is good enough for my use.
 
I have heard that spring air guns can achieve maximum FPE with lighter pellets whereas pump or pneumatic air guns can achieve maximum FPE with heavier pellets. Just an FYI. I'm sure there is a limit to the gains but it's a decent general guideline. I've played around with some of the Eun Jin pellets (28.4grn) and they hit very hard out of my Benjamin. The Chrono has also validated this from what I've seen.
 
I have a Crosman Quest that I enjoy. You'll want to use the fiber optic sights, as the heavy spring will cause loss of zero on all but the best optics. I'm not sure to what extent mine has moved, but it isn't catastrophic. I should check on that...

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H2OCutter said:
My Crosman Nitro chronys Crosman Premiers 14.3 around 730 average, JSB Exact Jumbo Express around 720 fps which is good enough for my use.
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Which is pretty close to what mine did but it isn't the 950 the catalog claims or the 900 many youtube reviews are giving. Then there is Crossman saying mine is a "detuned" model made for export.

By the way, I fully understand 730 FPS puts it over the 12 pound English limit and that they seem to make do over there with less power.
 
Sidehill Gouger said:
Which is pretty close to what mine did but it isn't the 950 the catalog claims or the 900 many youtube reviews are giving. Then there is Crossman saying mine is a "detuned" model made for export.

By the way, I fully understand 730 FPS puts it over the 12 pound English limit and that they seem to make do over there with less power.
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I know one guy that reports getting 765 fps with the CP's, and when it was new I got readings as high as 751 but that was it.
An average chrony reading of 730fps for the 14.3 gr. CP is right around 17 ft/lbs, plenty of power to take rabbit, squirrel, rodents in general.
 
Sportsman's Guide said no problem they would refund my money if I returned the rifle. They couldn't explain why it would have been an export model but I'm sure it would be easy to mix them at the factory. Look exactly the same except for the serial number.
 
my first real air gun was a crossman pump...great while it lasted; it broke down pretty quick...so my perception of crossman is crap; someone correct me i am wrong...

daisys are toys; anyone want to counter that one?
 
pilote said:
my first real air gun was a crossman pump...great while it lasted; it broke down pretty quick...so my perception of crossman is crap; someone correct me i am wrong...

daisys are toys; anyone want to counter that one?
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I'd like to have a Daisy Avanti. They might be "toys" in that they are low powered but I've read that they shoot very well.
 
With the large variety available, you will be spoilt for choice and confused as to what to get.

Go with the KISS principle. Get an RWS Diana 34. They come in wood and synthetic stocks. In 177 caliber it will shoot roughly 850-900 fps with medium weight pellets and will eliminate everything till 60 yards. A self contained power-plant ensures you dont have to worry about air pressure etc. At 200 USD it doesn't burn a hole.
 
My favorite airguns are the older Beeman Weihrauch R1 and R7, made in Germany of the highest quality materials and workmanship. They both have the exquisite clockwork Rekord adjustable trigger, and will shoot under 1 inch groups routinely at 30 yards with standard open sights, the R1 somewhat further. It has the custom installed higher powered Maccari spring.

In the R1's favor is its higher power, and the fact that there is an extensively illustrated and very thorough user manual written by an R1 specialist that used to, maybe still does, have a very respected airgun website (sorry, forgot his name). The manual discusses disassembly, tuning, repair, etc in great detail.

The R7 is a scaled down version of the R1, and as such is a delight to shoot because the R1 is pretty big and relatively heavy. It is easier to cock, carry, and tote.

Both guns are made to shoot tens of thousands of rounds and last indefinitely. They are heirloom guns.
 
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Airguns are either Brit or German for quality. Others make 'good enough' stuff but they can't compare to the likes of Theoben or Weihrauch.
 
I got gamo CF-20 (If I remember right).
Long pull (slightly adjustable at risk of accidental shot), and humongous recoil but for recreational beer can shooting it's pretty good.
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A few years back, I bought my at the time benjamin sheridan .177. It's the old time 10 pump. I didn't want a 7 YO sling .22 caliber lead.

I put a Williams peep site on it. We sited it at 31 or 35'. I can't remember exactly. What I do remember is that I put 5 pellets into a dime sized target, and 4 out of those 5 went into the same exact hole. It is that accurate.

Many a varmint mammal and crap bird has lost it's life to that gun. He even took a rabbit at 85 yards. He shot, calibrated, shot again, calibrated, shot again, and finally the rabbit fell over.

Only bad thing about it is 8 pumps.
 
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