A lesson in half-assing sale posts

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Sorry, I think this was my bad and I shotgunned this post.

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Josh K said:
D DMD08 I'm sorry. I felt jerked around by you and am coming around to the idea I'm more to blame here for half-assing my sale post. Putting myself in your shoes I probably would have backed out as well. Apologies.
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I'm not leaving feedback, because there wasn't a “deal” but just be wary of his quick:

DMD08 said:
I'll take the red micarta 21. What's your paypal?
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with a later decision not to purchase.

Rule #1 for buyers:

Ask any questions needed before the deal is agreed upon, make sure you want the item being sold and that the price is affordable to you.
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I didn't ask for PayPal, I offered him multiple means of payment. I listed a total price for the piece. He insisted on PayPal and Goods & Services (I don't mind at all) but decided he didn't want to pay for shipping or the extra cost he would incur on his (declared only) means of payment.
 
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Josh, we can do it this way if you want.

SECTION 2 - Rules/Procedures for Selling, Buying, Trading, & Offering Services:
The implementation of common sense is strongly encouraged beyond this point. This applies directly to the persons involved in the transactions.

Sellers/Selling -
  1. Be 100% sure that you want to sell the item, have it in your possession and clearly list the TOTAL selling price.
    • There is no "testing the waters" or "gauge buyer interest".
    • "Net to me" needs to be figured into your LISTED PRICE
    • Insurance is the responsibility of the SELLER not the Buyer. This is for your protection.
    • Paypal "friends & family" is STRONGLY DISCOURAGED. This is for your protection.

You listed the knife for $465. I was willing and ready to pay $465 until you started your bait and switch. You mentioned no payment restrictions or modifiers to the listed price in your thread. Then via email you stated "$465 (net)". This goes against the exchange rules as posted above. You then said you would take $465 but you needed my address to give me the total cost with shipping. Again this is against the exchange rules. Due to your lack of transparency in your sales thread and adding costs on the back end I refused to participate in the deal.

And your price drop was nice. Petty much?

I look forward to a moderator removing this thread.
 
Josh K said:
I'm not leaving feedback, because there wasn't a “deal” but just be wary of his quick:



with a later decision not to purchase.

Rule #1 for buyers:



I didn't ask for PayPal, I offered him multiple means of payment. I listed a total price for the piece. He insisted on PayPal and Goods & Services (I don't mind at all) but decided he didn't want to pay for shipping or the extra cost he would incur on his (declared only) means of payment.
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The prices you have listed are all inclusive. This means that whatever price you have listed includes the extra cost of fees and shipping. Even after your edit, you still aren't clear on your asking prices.
 
How this could've went.
Seller: $465 please
Buyer: yes $465 goods and services right?
Seller: no. $465 F&F. For goods and services $(higher price)
Buyer: oh, no thanks. GLWS though.:thumbsup::D

-parts ways peacefully-

Total price including goods and services and shipping should always be included to avoid confusion. Otherwise it looks like you're trying to make someone commit to extra fees. I don't think it was "BAD" for him to back out, especially when you were still negotiating payment terms.
 
What bait and switch? You asked for a specific payment method. You should have asked first. I guess your fingers ran away from you there.

I’m really unsure how one is suppose to include shipping with unknown buyer locations. The (new?) rules seem to not mention that.
 
Josh K said:
What bait and switch? You asked for a specific payment method. You should have asked first. I guess your fingers ran away from you there.

I’m really unsure how one is suppose to include shipping with unknown buyer locations. The (new?) rules seem to not mention that.
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Any CRK will fit in a small flat rate box, which is around $7.85 last time I shipped something. You list your knife for a certain price, but when it comes time for the buyer to pay, the price is different. I believe that is the issue at hand here.
 
Ok so when OP said he gave multiple payment options I was expecting to see that information in the post but it is absent in fact the post mentions nothing about payment options only a price. I fully agree with D DMD08 on this the OP did more of a bait and switch that is a bit of an exaggeration of it but the point is he didn't list the price as total price with listed prefer payment method. If buyer opts for an alternate method than seller preferred which would adds cost to the seller I understand the seller making some modifications to the price.
 
DMD08 said:
You then said you would take $465 but you needed my address to give me the total cost with shipping.
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With your earlier shenanigans I wanted to make sure I wasn’t going to be shipping outside the US.
 
Josh K said:
What bait and switch? You asked for a specific payment method. You should have asked first. I guess your fingers ran away from you there.

I’m really unsure how one is suppose to include shipping with unknown buyer locations. The (new?) rules seem to not mention that.
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I think the rule is clear. The listed price should be the actual price. I was willing and happy to pay your listed price. I'd recommend you review the BF exchange rules and alter your sales threads methods to comply.
 
Josh K said:
What bait and switch? You asked for a specific payment method. You should have asked first. I guess your fingers ran away from you there.

I’m really unsure how one is suppose to include shipping with unknown buyer locations. The (new?) rules seem to not mention that.
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Since the rules mention PayPal and it is still currently the top default payment method for here, and many other places such as eBay, with rules also indicating F&F is not acceptable the assumption is any price listed not stating otherwise is for PayPal G&S. In regards to shipping you assume in your pricing a non-foreign shipping so like USPS Small Flat Rate, $7.90 as of yesterday for me, and mention that you won't ship internationally or that international will cost more.
 
91bravo said:
Any CRK will fit in a small flat rate box, which is around $7.85 last time I shipped something. You list your knife for a certain price, but when it comes time for the buyer to pay, the price is different. I believe that is the issue at hand here.
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The newer boxes don’t fit. And that’s a pretty cheapskate shipping method. And doesn’t account for international. Or different requested shipping options. Or a signature. Or any number of different things.

I’m happy to include shipping in the US, but based on our interaction I figured I would ask. As Daegan should have before committing.
 
hhmoore said:
If you prefer other payment options, you should make that clear in your ad.
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I did certainly half ass the post. I added more details to the top. But, despite my half assery, my point is you should ask any questions you are unclear about beforehand instead of quoting rules chapter and verse.
 
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