A new special steel

rrg991981

rrg991981

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I work for a company that makes custom propriatary alloys (and machines parts) for special wear resistant applications, and we were talking about it and we have several that would make incredible blade steels If I were to offer free sample billets to you guys to have, test and make knives out of, you can sell them yourselfs for profit, we just want to test the viability of bringing to market billets for the knife market and I would like to pick your brains on what you guys would want in a billet.

What size billets?

Would you want them heat treated?

We have a special alloy that was made for a special machine that strips bark and grinds frozen logs that is one of the most amazing materials I have ever seen, it has edge holding and durability unlike anything I have ever seen.

Ryan
 
Interesting
Most knife making where the material is ground as opposed to forged is somewhere between 1/8 and 1/4" thick. I make a lot of mine from 3/16". Some of it depends on what sized blade you want to built. As far as width 1 1/2" will make most blades. usually makes prefer to start with soft annealed steel especially if it highly wear resistant when hard and the harden and temper after the blade is ground. Of course then a recipe is needed to harden and temper the steel. So if I was to get a billet I wold prefer it to be 3/16" x 1 1/2" and would be able to make my favorite sized blade with every 9" of length.
Then I would grind a blade temper it, check its hardness and then after sharpening check it to see if it chipped easily and if not see how it held up to say cutting up a bunch of cardboard. If it chipped, I would increase the temper temperature by 25f and retest for chipping. Sounds like an interesting experiment.
Have you compared your alloys to any of the materials that many use? I use a lot of D2 which is carbon 1.55%, chrome 12%, Molybdenum .7% and Vanadium 1%. It often used for punch presses and metal shears and it is extremely wear resistant.
I am sure lots of guys would like to check something like this out.
 
You can sign me up as long as heat treat info is available! I buy most of my stock in 6 by 36, but an 18" piece 1.5" by 3/16 depending on surface finish would be pretty useful.

Will an analysis be available?
 
Count me in.

And I also agree totally with what ib2v4u.

Also, please keep us chopper guys in mind:D 1/4" x 2" x 16":thumbup::thumbup:

Looking forward to testing some of this new super steel out!!!!

Thanks for offering it up to us, very cool.

Chris
 
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Yah if I get this up and running all I would ask is a good evaluation of the steel and maybe pics of the finished product I would love to see them. This one steel would be an ideal steel for a chopper
 
18" long, 0.1875 - 0.25" thick, 1.75-2.0 wide would be good.
or 450-500 mm long, 4.5-6.5 mm thick and 44-52 mm wide if it's metric stock.

just out of curiosity, what size are the blades/teeth in the stripper?
 
That sounds great! I would be more than happy to provide pics and reviews of it after hard use! My most recent orders are going to our troops. I will have to send one out for them to beat the living crap out of for you:thumbup:

If it happens or not.....I hope to at least get a breakdown of this steel type. Might be the new super-steel!

Chris

rrg991981 said:
Yah if I get this up and running all I would ask is a good evaluation of the steel and maybe pics of the finished product I would love to see them. This one steel would be an ideal steel for a chopper
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Nothing we like better than evaluating new products i am willing to try some and give an honest opinion after testing.

Bob
 
I would be interested in testing the free "super steel" :D with the following caveats:
  • The steel needs to be something that doesn't require any super crazy heat treat. I have a digitally controlled kiln so I can HT most common oil or air hardening steels (though I am most comfortable with oil hardening steels).
  • Detailed HT information is provided.
I generally work with bars... usually 1-1/4" to 2" wide and 1/8" to 7/32" thick. I would prefer the bars be annealed.

Also, I'd be interested in knowing whether this steel is similar in composition to any of the common steels that we use.

And most importantly... can I get a hamon on it??? :p

What is this steel mainly geared toward?.. impact "toughness", wear resistance, edge retention, or corrosion resistance? Just curious.

I look forward to hearing more.

Erin
 
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Bring on the new free steel! Who doesn't love free steel!:D
Definitely interested.
Matt Doyle
 
I'd go for some of that "frozen-log-grinding special alloy steel" in .25 X 1.5" X 12" multiple lengths. :thumbup:
 
I'd like a piece also. .188 X 1.5 X 14. I would need the heat treat specs.

What is the typical application hardness range for this steel?
 
Please count me in. I like 5/32 X 1.5 X 16 but I make a variety of blades so I will work with whatever you have to offer. I will need heat treat specs.
Thanks in acvance. Kevin
 
Count me in as long as heat treat info is available. Any usable size is OK, but i would prefer 3/16'-1/4" thick x 2" wide x 18" long. Thanks.
 
Ryan

Before I would pick a billet size, I have a few questions. Can it be forged, if so by hand or power hammer/press? What is the critical temp, 2000 degrees F or below? what is the recommended quench media? Is there any nasty ingredients which will make you lungs rot out or give you some unmentionable disease?

Jim Arbuckle
 
If the offer is still good, I'd like a piece about 5/32 or 3/16 x 1.5" x 18". That should get me 2 knives out of it. I'd probably keep one and give one to my buddy who is a "guide" type. Last year he processed 5 or 6 elk. I would have no problem of providing some pic's of the process and the finished knives.

Thanks,
Steve Hostetler
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I am in too, I like free stuff:D I am just a noob here but I find myself getting more and more into it with each knife. Blade number 5 was just profiled today.
What I could offer in analysis is the view of a beginner working with crude tools, trying to make something both useful and attractive. Size wise I would be fine with 3/16"x1.5"x20", I seem to like making knives in that 10" over all length that can handle some heavy use yet still be manageable for more delicate work, and I always make in pairs.
 
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