Hey guys I've got a situation that I need your guys opinions and advice on. I recently sold a like new PM2 to another member here on the forum. The knife was purchased by me from its original owner who sold it to me as like new in box. The only thing the original owner had done was switch the clip from tip down to tip up but other than that the knife looked new me. There were no marks on the handles and the blade was perfect. It was factory edge and very sharp and centered as a every Spyderco that I have ever bought has been. After I looked it over I had placed it back in its box as a "spare". A few months later my interests changed and I decided to sell off a few of my doubles to help with the funding. Now here's where the problem begins. The buyer that I sold it pm's me and says this........
"Hi Virgil,
There is an issue with the paramilitary 2 that you sent me. I just took it out of its box last night for the first time. even though I got it in the mail a few days ago. I've gotten four knives this week and I've been playing around with them. I decided that I'd give the paramilitary 2 a shot today and put it in my pocket when I left the house.
Throughout the day, I took it out a few times to get used to the lock mechanism and learn how to flick it open because it came very tight.
When I went to cut some paper and cardboard, I realized that the tip looked off. Upon further inspection, it appears that it broke clean off. Is there any way that you overlooked this? I noticed that there were some skin marks on the G-10, so it must've been used a little bit, or at least handled by you or the first owner. I am not lying when I say that all I cut with this knife is paper and a bit of cardboard to test the sharpness. Other than the tip, the knife looks brand new.
I absolutely love the knife, but having a tip is pretty crucial.
If possible, I'd like to either return it to you, or ask that you pay to have it sent back to Spyderco. I am not the type of person that would try to scam someone, let alone a fellow Bladeforums member, I just know that there is no possible way that I am responsible for the tip breaking.
Please tell me what you think is the fair thing to do.
Thanks so much,
P.S. I've attached a photo of the tip to this PM."
After I looked at the pic I told the buyer to let me know what ever he decided to do. He first said he was going to send it Spyderco to be fixed. I told him that would be fine that to let me know the total charge for the repair and I would cover it. Then a week or so later he writes me again and says he just wants to return it to me for a refund since he already bought another PM2. Anyway I told him that was fine and he has returned the knife. I received it today and after examining the knife it appears to me that the tip has been broke off from prying with it. Also there is a fairly large rolling of the factory edge approx mid ways of the blade like where the blade has came into contact with something very hard like metal or ceramic. There are marks on the g10 handles from something rubbing them. The knife is defiantly not in the condition that I sold it in minus the tip problem. What should I do? I feel like I'm being scammed. I have no problem returning the money if I had sold him the knife in defective condition but I'm almost certain the tip was fine when it left my hands. What's your guys opinion? What should I do? Thanks in advance.
"Hi Virgil,
There is an issue with the paramilitary 2 that you sent me. I just took it out of its box last night for the first time. even though I got it in the mail a few days ago. I've gotten four knives this week and I've been playing around with them. I decided that I'd give the paramilitary 2 a shot today and put it in my pocket when I left the house.
Throughout the day, I took it out a few times to get used to the lock mechanism and learn how to flick it open because it came very tight.
When I went to cut some paper and cardboard, I realized that the tip looked off. Upon further inspection, it appears that it broke clean off. Is there any way that you overlooked this? I noticed that there were some skin marks on the G-10, so it must've been used a little bit, or at least handled by you or the first owner. I am not lying when I say that all I cut with this knife is paper and a bit of cardboard to test the sharpness. Other than the tip, the knife looks brand new.
I absolutely love the knife, but having a tip is pretty crucial.
If possible, I'd like to either return it to you, or ask that you pay to have it sent back to Spyderco. I am not the type of person that would try to scam someone, let alone a fellow Bladeforums member, I just know that there is no possible way that I am responsible for the tip breaking.
Please tell me what you think is the fair thing to do.
Thanks so much,
P.S. I've attached a photo of the tip to this PM."
After I looked at the pic I told the buyer to let me know what ever he decided to do. He first said he was going to send it Spyderco to be fixed. I told him that would be fine that to let me know the total charge for the repair and I would cover it. Then a week or so later he writes me again and says he just wants to return it to me for a refund since he already bought another PM2. Anyway I told him that was fine and he has returned the knife. I received it today and after examining the knife it appears to me that the tip has been broke off from prying with it. Also there is a fairly large rolling of the factory edge approx mid ways of the blade like where the blade has came into contact with something very hard like metal or ceramic. There are marks on the g10 handles from something rubbing them. The knife is defiantly not in the condition that I sold it in minus the tip problem. What should I do? I feel like I'm being scammed. I have no problem returning the money if I had sold him the knife in defective condition but I'm almost certain the tip was fine when it left my hands. What's your guys opinion? What should I do? Thanks in advance.
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