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Mr. Harvey-
If you would actually read the post- I did not claim the Raven is a better knife. I listed it as the one I am carrying now to give a little insight into my personal tastes. In fact, I have retired the Raven back into storage for now, because after using it for a while, I decided that the clip position left too much of the knife revealed for my needs.
Secondly, I DID NOT post asking for others to tell me why they liked the AFCK. I outright slammed it because I wanted to hear what was so great about it. I had an opinion and I posted it. I have recieved a handful of e-mails from others who agree with me but are afraid to raise their voice on the forum for fear of retribution. Ironically, I suppose, I recieved more mail from those slamming me personally for berating the AFCK. So don't preach to me about "bigotry" or "being silly or unfair". Doesn't that work both ways?
It still seems unbelievable to me that the fans of the AFCK refuse to even consider another piece. The mantra seems to be "price point". Why can't you compare an $80 AFCK to a $120 EDI Genesis? If you want to really get that restrictive, then I officially concede. For 80 bucks, there's probably nothing better. Happy now? If an $80 dollar knife is what you want, fine. I was more than happy to shell out the extra 40 for the EDI. (mine demonstates none of the problems you mentioned incidentally) On the forums, every knife is compared to every knife, but don't bag on the AFCK. I see how it is. (And yes, I too would like to see Zaine's list.)
I will bring up this next point because I have seen it myself, and others have talked with me about it off the forum. There exists a group of individuals who moderate this and other forums and respond to posts in such a way that discourages, in some cases, further discussions. Invariably, someone posts a question about knife x and if one of these few people respond with their 2 cents, that's it. End of discussion. And when there are other posts, they defer to that person's opinion like sheep. Now, I will agree that these folks more than likely have had more exposure to the knife world than others- but that shouldn't mean if you disagree you are verbally scolded. Don't believe me? Look at this thread. It's like some kind of weird oligarchy. Contrary to what occurs here, your name does not boost the validity of your opinion. I may be a nobody, but I sure have started a discussion, haven't I?
And that's what it is, a discussion. I provoked a response and got one. (many) If you for one second think that by posting a reply telling me how to conduct my discussion is going to deter me, you are wrong. I couldn't care less who you are. You complain about this thread but still reply to it in hopes that your name will convince everyone that you are the only that knows what he's talking about.
Plus, I'm still not convinced. I agree with you on one point, the challenge does still remain. No one has proven the AFCK to be the knife of the gods it's claimed to be. And do you know why? Because an impressive list of technical specs does not a great knife make. For $100, I fully expect any knife to have these kinds of features. The true test is in the real world or in your pocket and performing required tasks based on your individual wants and needs. For me, the AFCK does not fit the bill. It's ugly as sin, and I do not like the thumb hole at all. For me, these are things I cannot overlook.
Sure, I wish more people would agree with me- but I don't have the name for that. And if I did, I certainly would not attempt to influence someone else's hobby. I got the info I wanted from this post, and I think I'll stay away for awhile. I think it's best to make decisions regarding MY knives on my own. If you can't figure out why I posted this, then too bad for you. There were plenty others who had no problem at all.
This time, READ before you reply-
If you would actually read the post- I did not claim the Raven is a better knife. I listed it as the one I am carrying now to give a little insight into my personal tastes. In fact, I have retired the Raven back into storage for now, because after using it for a while, I decided that the clip position left too much of the knife revealed for my needs.
Secondly, I DID NOT post asking for others to tell me why they liked the AFCK. I outright slammed it because I wanted to hear what was so great about it. I had an opinion and I posted it. I have recieved a handful of e-mails from others who agree with me but are afraid to raise their voice on the forum for fear of retribution. Ironically, I suppose, I recieved more mail from those slamming me personally for berating the AFCK. So don't preach to me about "bigotry" or "being silly or unfair". Doesn't that work both ways?
It still seems unbelievable to me that the fans of the AFCK refuse to even consider another piece. The mantra seems to be "price point". Why can't you compare an $80 AFCK to a $120 EDI Genesis? If you want to really get that restrictive, then I officially concede. For 80 bucks, there's probably nothing better. Happy now? If an $80 dollar knife is what you want, fine. I was more than happy to shell out the extra 40 for the EDI. (mine demonstates none of the problems you mentioned incidentally) On the forums, every knife is compared to every knife, but don't bag on the AFCK. I see how it is. (And yes, I too would like to see Zaine's list.)
I will bring up this next point because I have seen it myself, and others have talked with me about it off the forum. There exists a group of individuals who moderate this and other forums and respond to posts in such a way that discourages, in some cases, further discussions. Invariably, someone posts a question about knife x and if one of these few people respond with their 2 cents, that's it. End of discussion. And when there are other posts, they defer to that person's opinion like sheep. Now, I will agree that these folks more than likely have had more exposure to the knife world than others- but that shouldn't mean if you disagree you are verbally scolded. Don't believe me? Look at this thread. It's like some kind of weird oligarchy. Contrary to what occurs here, your name does not boost the validity of your opinion. I may be a nobody, but I sure have started a discussion, haven't I?
And that's what it is, a discussion. I provoked a response and got one. (many) If you for one second think that by posting a reply telling me how to conduct my discussion is going to deter me, you are wrong. I couldn't care less who you are. You complain about this thread but still reply to it in hopes that your name will convince everyone that you are the only that knows what he's talking about.
Plus, I'm still not convinced. I agree with you on one point, the challenge does still remain. No one has proven the AFCK to be the knife of the gods it's claimed to be. And do you know why? Because an impressive list of technical specs does not a great knife make. For $100, I fully expect any knife to have these kinds of features. The true test is in the real world or in your pocket and performing required tasks based on your individual wants and needs. For me, the AFCK does not fit the bill. It's ugly as sin, and I do not like the thumb hole at all. For me, these are things I cannot overlook.
Sure, I wish more people would agree with me- but I don't have the name for that. And if I did, I certainly would not attempt to influence someone else's hobby. I got the info I wanted from this post, and I think I'll stay away for awhile. I think it's best to make decisions regarding MY knives on my own. If you can't figure out why I posted this, then too bad for you. There were plenty others who had no problem at all.
This time, READ before you reply-
