After Sale Lounge

[bluemax_1]

I only reloaded once and I was still on page 2 (even if just barely). This was pure adrenaline, which honestly is a lot of the fun. I bet Nathan didn't think he'd have a preorder thread fill that fast! That was almost certainly going to have been a sellout in less than 60 seconds once we account for the two-sword orders.

I think you had two things working there, one, after you delivered the K18s a lot of people got to kicking themselves for missing out, and two, a modern wakizashi would probably always have been a popular design. I sure am glad you had the stones to do this though, I'm sure it'll be a tough project, but a wood K20 will absolutely 100% be the centerpiece of my knife collection forever (I guess unless we get an integral dagger preorder, in which case nothing lasts forever, you know), and unlike the K18 preorder this time I was sure to get two so I can have one to actually cut things with as well.

Great points.

I was in, and already hyped for the K18 when the concept was still being bounced around. I knew it would be great once Nate announced that he was collaborating with Dan Keffeler, but even I was amazed at the flex test video that Nathan posted (not to mention Dan 1-hitting a 2x4, and Benny demolishing a cinder block).

D3V is generally ~61.5 Hrc? Medieval/historic European swords have been tested to vary between low-40 to high-50s Hrc, often, with varying hardnesses on different edge sections of the same blade, tested at 5cm intervals (heat treatment not being as refined/consistent as modern equipment is capable of).

Differentially hardened historic katana have been tested to show an edge hardness as high as 62Hrc (there aren't any documented/confirmed tests of any katana with hardnesses higher than 62Hrc that I'm aware of), and traditionally, with the clay differential hardening, a softer spine around 40Hrc (for impact absorption and a little give/flex).

That said, NO traditional/historic katana would survive a 90 degree bend intact, like Nathan showed in the K18 test.

I posted before about a classmate in Kenjutsu, with more money than skill/brains, who ignored the instructor's recommendation to NOT use his $10+k genuine Japanese Shinken for tameshigiri (cutting practice), and to buy a cheaper practice sword specifically for cutting practice.

He botched a cut on a 3 (IIRC) tatami roll, and permanently bent that gorgeous sword (and I don't think there was more than maybe 20 degrees of blade deflection, that resulted in the permanent bend. Definitely not even in the same continent as 90 degrees of deflection).

When Nathan says that the K20 will do things a traditional sword can't, he's not kidding.

*** OK, OK, so I didn't post all this until after the preorder was over

 

[Nathan the Machinist]

The whole idea of a pre-order is a leisurely sale where people don't have to do the crazy Friday sale thing. I kind of screwed this up. I'm sorry about that. This has never happened before. I just genuinely misjudged this one. It's a head trip to sell out 100 swords in one minute, but it is not lost on me that we have a lot of good and long-term customers that wanted one that did not get one and I feel bad about that.

 

[bluemax_1]

The whole idea of a pre-order is a leisurely sale where people don't have to do the crazy Friday sale thing. I kind of screwed this up. I'm sorry about that. This has never happened before. I just genuinely misjudged this one. It's a head trip to sell out 100 swords in one minute, but it is not lost on me that we have a lot of good and long-term customers that wanted one that did not get one and I feel bad about that.

You folks have built one heckuva (well-deserved) client base, simply off all your efforts to produce the best bang for the buck in edged tools that excel in performance (and up front customer service to match).

Cheers, Nathan, Jo, Lorien, Dan, Mark, Bo and the rest of the CPK fam!

P.S
Should be able to get some diesel now

 

[jlauffer]

The whole idea of a pre-order is a leisurely sale where people don't have to do the crazy Friday sale thing. I kind of screwed this up. I'm sorry about that. This has never happened before. I just genuinely misjudged this one. It's a head trip to sell out 100 swords in one minute, but it is not lost on me that we have a lot of good and long-term customers that wanted one that did not get one and I feel bad about that.

Don't destroy the tooling...

 

[mb>]

Hard to imagine a faster sale at $1175, but…man.

 

[yoko]

My alarm went off and I stopped mid paint job lol

My manager has early warning I was going I do this

I'm sorry to the veteran CPK guys who didn't get one

 

[Richard338]

I didn't take it too seriously. I just made sure that the kids were off any devices. Then I used Task Manager to kill any unnecessary processes, and ran a speed test on my connection. Then with the NIST clock ticking toward 5pm I guestimated when to hit refresh. It's not like I'm some lunatic who has to be first!

 

[Pàdruig]

...... It's not like I'm some lunatic who has to be first!

 

[trevitrace]

Congrats, everyone who nabbed one!

 

[mb>]

^ Participation trophies - got a chuckle out of that.

I'm a bad better, but I'd wager that if you ran a poll on "should Friday sales be limited to 1/person, yes/no" the "yes" votes would far outnumber the "no" votes. You could make a case that a buying limit would get pieces into more hands, and increase exposure to a wider customer base.

But it doesn't really seem to matter from a pure business standpoint so far. And it is Nate and Jo's biz, so they can run it however they want. No matter how they sell these things, they will sell out in seconds. What an amazing business.

^ I don’t like to quote myself, but that’s 4 1/2 years ago. 54 months. And it wasn’t a popular opinion. Not much has changed in terms of demand.

Rock on CPK!

 

[frozenfire]

Congrats to all parties- winners, losers, Nathan and Jo. We're all lucky to be part of this insanity. Just the fact that we have the chance at getting in on this is cause enough to celebrate...

But I'll be bitter as HELL if I don't get one. Wannabe samurai till I die.

 

[Madranchtx]

What scares me about this is what is the folder order going to be like. Die hard i'll buy anything you make is one thing, and that one thing sold out in 1 minute. Every mfr on the planet is going to want the folder. The folder may be less physically challenging to produce but there are a lot of pieces to acount for. Nathan please don't underestimate the demand because I want a folder

 

[yoko]

Ditto on the folder , i use mine constantly at work..... would be nice to have a cpk folder

(I'm still offering to test one out if needed hahaha)

 

[madcap_magician]

What scares me about this is what is the folder order going to be like. Die hard i'll buy anything you make is one thing, and that one thing sold out in 1 minute. Every mfr on the planet is going to want the folder. The folder may be less physically challenging to produce but there are a lot of pieces to acount for. Nathan please don't underestimate the demand because I want a folder

To be honest I will probably not be competing for a folder. There's such a huge swath of folders around, but I feel like nobody quite has a niche in the fixed blade market like Nathan does. Hard to explain exactly why. There's a lot of fixed blade small-batch makers doing great things adjacent to or a bit like CPK, but nobody doing what CPK does and certainly not as well. People making swords and knives of similar quality materials to similar levels of quality in manufacture, but nobody quite has the design and engineering genius to match Delta 3V or the Keffeler design help or the perfect handles that a CPK has.

I only collect a couple small production or custom makers now, and CPK is the best balance between availability, usability, price, collectability, community, and fun.

 

[Burton Knut]

I was pissed that my job sent me (because I’m the new guy) to another office to help after my normal shift, but seeing the sell out was so fast means I’d have probably missed the first 100 anyway. Now I’m just pissed at nobody. Oh well!

 

[JACKMANDU]

What scares me about this is what is the folder order going to be like. Die hard i'll buy anything you make is one thing, and that one thing sold out in 1 minute. Every mfr on the planet is going to want the folder. The folder may be less physically challenging to produce but there are a lot of pieces to acount for. Nathan please don't underestimate the demand because I want a folder

Oh don’t worry. The folder preorder will probably be up for a week or so.

 

[yoko]

Oh don’t worry. The folder preorder will probably be up for a week or so.

That would be so so cruel lol

 

[Casinostocks]

With the new server in effect and the past issues with time lag seeming all sorted out, my timing was very putrid today in both the general Friday's sale (in for a UF2 because I had skipped the UF2 altogether in the preorder in favor of fancy DEF2s) and also meekly placed in the K20 preorder (made it but kinda barely!). It is because I am a bit rusty not having been around those past couple of months in addition to having waited a full 5 seconds to reload pages on both occasions today plus using Safari as my web browser which may not be an optimal browser for BF.com (where is the friggin "turbo" page scroll down? There is only up arrow!!!).

Anyhoo, the reason that I'm being pitiful on myself and blabbering on is because I feel that there will be a literal bloodbath when it will come down to the Integral Shiv stampede. In great proven historical fashion, Nathan will decide in his all omniscient wisdom that there will not be much demand for such a things thus deciding on limited numbers, yada, yada... If you guys are already fretting over making it in the CPK-Folder preorder, all I got to tell you is that you will need to invest in some major Internet infrastructure to score Shivs / Integral Shivs if Nathan leans toward very limited numbers.

 

[Madranchtx]

To be honest I will probably not be competing for a folder. There's such a huge swath of folders around, but I feel like nobody quite has a niche in the fixed blade market like Nathan does. Hard to explain exactly why. There's a lot of fixed blade small-batch makers doing great things adjacent to or a bit like CPK, but nobody doing what CPK does and certainly not as well. People making swords and knives of similar quality materials to similar levels of quality in manufacture, but nobody quite has the design and engineering genius to match Delta 3V or the Keffeler design help or the perfect handles that a CPK has.

I only collect a couple small production or custom makers now, and CPK is the best balance between availability, usability, price, collectability, community, and fun.

I understand what your saying but don't necessarily agree for me personally. I'm not a collector. I buy a pocket knife to use. For the last 10 years I've carried a ritter grip with DOAT CF scales. Reasonable price, reasonable quality, did everything I ask of it. A couple of weeks ago I bought a sebenza 31. Proof is in the pudding. Night and day a better product. More than twice the price but easy to see where the money goes. I guess I'm slowly leveling up on what I'm willing to daily carry and possibly lose or destroy. I ran into cpk about a year ago. I was on bf bitching about the quality of a small fixed blade I had purchased and was recommended trying a cpk. Seven cpk knives later I bought a freaking sword today in the end what I'm saying is I am excited to see what the evil genius comes up with for a folder without alot of preconceptions about what a high end established folder manf. Is or can be. On top of all that bs. I run a small business. 24 employees. Small business is what makes America tick. I'm sure the Ruskey shiv folks are a small business too but I'd rather spend my money here, pay to educate our children. Ok sounds like one to many celebratory whiskeys on the pre-order so ill rap this up.
Mark.

 

[bluemax_1]

With the new server in effect and the past issues with time lag seeming all sorted out, my timing was very putrid today in both the general Friday's sale (in for a UF2 because I had skipped the UF2 altogether in the preorder in favor of fancy DEF2s) and also meekly placed in the K20 preorder (made it but kinda barely!). It is because I am a bit rusty not having been around those past couple of months in addition to having waited a full 5 seconds to reload pages on both occasions today plus using Safari as my web browser which may not be an optimal browser for BF.com (where is the friggin "turbo" page scroll down? There is only up arrow!!!).

Anyhoo, the reason that I'm being pitiful on myself and blabbering on is because I feel that there will be a literal bloodbath when it will come down to the Integral Shiv stampede. In great proven historical fashion, Nathan will decide in his all omniscient wisdom that there will not be much demand for such a things thus deciding on limited numbers, yada, yada... If you guys are already fretting over making it in the CPK-Folder preorder, all I got to tell you is that you will need to invest in some major Internet infrastructure to score Shivs / Integral Shivs if Nathan leans toward very limited numbers.

Sounds like you made the same mistake I did, going off past experiences with the laggy old server.

If it's any consolation, I was at least comforted by seeing that you were #41 behind my #39. Oh wait... that was only a consolation to me